"Can Faith Fail?"

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Mem

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got me really thinking, even maybe meditating?
I believe the mark of a good student is to ask questions, and a good teacher would direct her to. And to be sure, even if the student believes she is right, she should find herself asking, "is this right?" In my experience, meditating on the possibility almost always reveals the degree of probability of the matter.
 

Evmur

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Have you ever sinned or were disobedient after the fact of being saved?
I have never met or heard of anybody who didn't and all sin is wilful. The knowledge of the truth is the good news that Christ died once and for all to pardon all our sins for everyone who believes.

People come to that knowledge but reject it for one reason or another.
 

Chester

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Bible question? When we were Born-again we all received a measure of Faith from Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ that is fueled by His Love (Romans 12:3). My question is, can that measure of Faith ever fail?
If one comes at this with predetermined doctrine, then that will determine the answer to the question.

I prefer to simply look at what the Scriptures say and take them at face value.
 

Evmur

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If one comes at this with predetermined doctrine, then that will determine the answer to the question.

I prefer to simply look at what the Scriptures say and take them at face value.
Once you have looked at the scripture and come to an understanding of it you will afterwards have a predetermined doctrine.
 

Chester

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Once you have looked at the scripture and come to an understanding of it you will afterwards have a predetermined doctrine.
I guess whoever wants to can do it that way. I much prefer just to study Scripture and then believe and apply what it says.
 

JaumeJ

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I have never met or heard of anybody who didn't and all sin is wilful. The knowledge of the truth is the good news that Christ died once and for all to pardon all our sins for everyone who believes.

People come to that knowledge but reject it for one reason or another.
Apparently, there are people, not aware that their action or actions have been sinful who are not held accountable unless they have been made aware of it. Whatever thast action or those actions are, it was still willful, just in inoraqnce for that time.
 

konroh

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They came too a knowledge of the truth and rejected it ... never saved
The warning passages in Hebrews seem better interpreted as believers who can fall away and lose rewards and be in danger of temporal punishment by God. When we say that someone can never fail in their faith the text is pretty clear that we have failures. This isn't loss of salvation, but certainly not all servants of God are faithful servants of God.