Can we overcome sin fully?

[loveme1]

I believe God's Word:

1 Jn 1:5-10
5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:

walk in darkness this is present tense and speaks of continuous or habitual action.


7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

Walking in the light means believing what Scripture tells us.

8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

John is addressing believers throughout this chapter. The word have is present tense and signifies continuity.

The sense here in light of what follows is that our general condition is sinless because of Jesus continuous cleansing; but we do occasionally stumble into sin which if acknowledged is cleansed restoring us to sinlessness in God's eyes; but if not acknowledged is not cleansed. I believe that one confession at the time of salvation is sufficient if we accept God's word that we do in fact continue in sin which must also be cleansed.

9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
KJV

This scripture makes a clear statement on this issue. Since Scripture does not contradict scripture, all other Scripture must be interpreted in light of this one.

11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
14 And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us:
15 And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of him.
16 If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.
17 All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.
18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.
19 And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.
20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
21 Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen.



You really don't need to enlarge like that my dear.. it does not add anything more or less..


Verse 10 Does not read if we say we don't sin.. it says if we say we have not sinned.. for all are guilty and need forgiveness and Reconciliation with Heavenly Father through His Sons Testament.

Now the bar is raised through the New Testament having received the Holy Spirit we are under Grace at Liberty to do the Good Shepherds commands... to say you are dead in your trespasses is to say you have not been born again. And if those of us who have received do not witness to those in darkness then GOD is not pleased.


Scripture does not contradict scripture but affirms the Truth.


John 8

Jesus went unto the mount of Olives. 2And early in the morning he came again into the temple, and all the people came unto him; and he sat down, and taught them. 3And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst, 4They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act. 5Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou? 6This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not. 7So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. 8And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground. 9And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. 10When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee? 11She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.



Romans 3

21But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; 22Even the righteousness of God which isby faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: 23For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; 24Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: 25Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; 26To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.






If you think GOD gave His only Begotten Son to cloak the dead in their trespasses then you have not Believed the Truth that sets you free. Like Christ you die to self to live unto GOD through Christ.

You are to be born again of the Holy Spirit that is subject to GOD's Law and are to walk in the Spirit while abiding... until the mortal puts on the immortal.

GOD sent His Son to redeem us to set us apart from the rest...

We are to be doer's of the Royal law for the King Gave instruction and His loyal servant love and obey their King.

To think that you can continue in willfull sin once you receive the Truth is sad...

Repent and believe... is to become Children of GOD. And GOD's Children delight in His Law through Faith in His Son.


How can we witness to the world as Ambassadors for Christ while dead in our trespasses....

To believe GOD's word is to believe all.. not just parts that fit the mood....

 

[gotime]

One thing that has changed everything for me is a promise that I now claim every time I pray to my Father in heaven. Here it is:

1Jn 5:14 And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us:
1Jn 5:15 And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of him.

Praise the Lord. Every promise that God gives in his word has to be his will, So I pray for the promises then I know that he hears me and I know that I have received it.

I don't wait for some feeling or outward sign that it is answered. The promise is "we have the petitions that we desired of him."

So I just believe and the realisation of the promise comes when it is most needed.

You get to the end of the day and realise that you handled things differently. People notice the fruit of the Spirit in you.


as it is written:

1Jn 5:4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.

Faith in his promises. praise God for all the promises are yes and amen in Jesus Christ our Lord.

 

[MarcR]

One thing that has changed everything for me is a promise that I now claim every time I pray to my Father in heaven. Here it is:

1Jn 5:14 And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us:
1Jn 5:15 And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of him.

Praise the Lord. Every promise that God gives in his word has to be his will, So I pray for the promises then I know that he hears me and I know that I have received it.

I don't wait for some feeling or outward sign that it is answered. The promise is "we have the petitions that we desired of him."



So I just believe and the realisation of the promise comes when it is most needed.

You get to the end of the day and realise that you handled things differently. People notice the fruit of the Spirit in you.


as it is written:

1Jn 5:4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.

Faith in his promises. praise God for all the promises are yes and amen in Jesus Christ our Lord.

1Jn 5:14 And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us:
1Jn 5:15 And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of him.

This is NOT a license to command God!

Actually it functions like a power of attorney. If we ask for what He tells us to ask for [either in Scripture or by the indwelling Holy Spirit] we can be sure of getting it. If we ask for our own desires we may or may not receive it.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

This can be a controversial question, but the answer is none the less Yes we can and indeed should.

The real question is not can we but "how" can we.

The answer is only found in Jesus and the promises of God.

Most fail on this point because they think about human weakness but we would do well to learn the lesson from Abraham:

Rom 4:19 And being not weak in faith, he considered not his own body now dead, when he was about an hundred years old, neither yet the deadness of Sara's womb:
Rom 4:20 He staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God;
Rom 4:21 And being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform.
Rom 4:22 And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness.



Notice that when it came down to it, Abraham did not consider his weaknesses or inability to do it. But rather was strong in faith trusting that Gods promises were true and that God would make it happen.

This lesson is for us as it is written:

Rom 4:23 Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him;
Rom 4:24 But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;
Rom 4:25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.

So stop looking at your problems and start trusting Jesus as your solution and see what happens.

Go look at all the promises God has in his word about no longer sinning then claim them because:


2Co 12:9 And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.

and:

2Co 1:19 For the Son of God, Jesus Christ, who was preached among you by us, even by me and Silvanus and Timotheus, was not yea and nay, but in him was yea.
2Co 1:20 For all the promises of God in him are yea, and in him Amen, unto the glory of God by us.

Be joyful for greater is he that is in you than he that is in the world.

Ask God to show you your sins and when He does don't resist but surrender it to Him and He will take it form you and you will be victorious then ask Him to fill that spot with himself and you will see your life change form Grace to Grace and faith to faith until you reflect His Glory fully and you can say with Paul:

Gal 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

Blessings

In the spirit, just men were made perfect and that's the part of us that Is sinless and perfect,GOD Is a SPIRIT.

We have not yet been redeemed fleshly yet though although the reborn Christian wants to purify himself fleshly even as his spirit has been made perfect.

Can a person be sinless not having a sinful thought In the mind?don't deceive yourself,the pharisees were committing the same sins In there minds as those that committed them with their bodies.

 

[gotime]

1Jn 5:14 And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us:
1Jn 5:15 And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of him.

This is NOT a license to command God!

Actually it functions like a power of attorney. If we ask for what He tells us to ask for [either in Scripture or by the indwelling Holy Spirit] we can be sure of getting it. If we ask for our own desires we may or may not receive it.

Agreed, I did not spell that out but my point was that which he has promised us is his will and thus we may ask for it and know that it is ours.

 

[gotime]

In the spirit, just men were made perfect and that's the part of us that Is sinless and perfect,GOD Is a SPIRIT.

We have not yet been redeemed fleshly yet though although the reborn Christian wants to purify himself fleshly even as his spirit has been made perfect.

Can a person be sinless not having a sinful thought In the mind?don't deceive yourself,the pharisees were committing the same sins In there minds as those that committed them with their bodies.

We are yet to be glorified, But until then we are held in Christ through His Spirit and promises. As to sinning in thought the word of God has said:


Pro 16:3 Commit thy works unto the LORD, and thy thoughts shall be established.

and again:



2Co 10:4 (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds
2Co 10:5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;

God will write his law on our hearts it is promised and all the promises are yes and amen in Christ Jesus.

 

[MessageOfTheCross]

There is a defect in every Christian called the "sin nature." The sin nature has been silence, (not eliminated) providing the Believer understands "The Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus" (Rom. 8:2). This is God's prescribe order of victory over sin, the world, the flesh, and the Devil. The Believer must place and maintain their Faith exclusively in Christ and His Finished Work, i.e., The Cross, i.e., The Blood of Jesus.

Many may argue and say that the sin nature was eliminated at salvation. If that was true no Believer would age, get sick, or die. The sin nature is eliminated at death and the "Rapture of the Church."

 

[gotime]

There is a defect in every Christian called the "sin nature." The sin nature has been silence, (not eliminated) providing the Believer understands "The Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus" (Rom. 8:2). This is God's prescribe order of victory over sin, the world, the flesh, and the Devil. The Believer must place and maintain their Faith exclusively in Christ and His Finished Work, i.e., The Cross, i.e., The Blood of Jesus.

Many may argue and say that the sin nature was eliminated at salvation. If that was true no Believer would age, get sick, or die. The sin nature is eliminated at death and the "Rapture of the Church."

Amen, that is the mystery, that a sinner does not sin. Daily we carry our cross/the old man dies. and Daily we are baptised in the Spirit/Jesus lives in us.

as it is written:

Gal 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

But there is coming a day when:

1Co 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
1Co 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
1Co 15:54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
1Co 15:55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
1Co 15:56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.

 

[20]

Yes, We can. Let take a look what Jesus said KJVMark9:23 23."Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth".

 

[MessageOfTheCross]

Amen, that is the mystery, that a sinner does not sin. Daily we carry our cross/the old man dies. and Daily we are baptised in the Spirit/Jesus lives in us.

as it is written:

Gal 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

But there is coming a day when:

1Co 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
1Co 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
1Co 15:54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
1Co 15:55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
1Co 15:56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.

Because of your reply, I have prayed for you and ask our LORD God to grant you out-of-season-fruit (though it might not be the time, it shall be done - John 2:4). Ask and it shall be given. Amen