Can We Really Exercise Free Will?
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Sorry for saying this but i won't play the part you've assigned to me, it doesn't exist in reality. As a newish believer, only since late March, i haven't read the Reformed Doctrines you seem to know so much about yet.
Hopefully you'll see sense soon, really don't want to think ill of you and hope you're just having a bad hair day or something.
Hopefully you'll see sense soon, really don't want to think ill of you and hope you're just having a bad hair day or something.
Always so disappointing when others do that to you, isn't it? And so very odd when people equate their personal opinion to Scripture. So dishonest. It happens a lot: people adding to and taking away from what Scripture says while they ignore what is actually said to insert their opinion instead, and refusing to admit it. And then those who claim you have said things you have not. Oy. That happens too often also. My every post proclaims God's love, but I was told I blaspheme God by ascribing hatred of humanity to Him. I have no idea where GWH got that idea, but I do know he made it up and falsely accused me with it. That, combined with some other issues, including his handling God's Word with gibberish abbreviations (which he actually said he would stop doing quite some time ago), prompted me to put him on ignore.
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There's literally 40 examples of using the WILL, which our WILL has nothing to do with choice.
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Do not now be stiff-necked as your fathers were, but yield yourselves to the Lord and come to his sanctuary, which he has consecrated forever, and serve the Lord your God.
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Nebuchadnezzar answered and said, “Blessed be the God of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, who has sent his angel and delivered his servants, who trusted in him, and set aside[f] the king's command, and yielded up their bodies rather than serve and worship any god except their own God.
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And he said to all, “If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow me."
Best example is the process of salvation.
1. Hear the Gospel preached
2. Given Faith from God to Believe
3. YIELDING to God to let God do His Will.
Jesus said NOT MY WILL BE DONE but YOUR WILL be done.
Free Will is about YIELDING your will to God to feed the SPIRIT.
Choice is about which menu item do I want to eat to feed my FLESH.
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Do not now be stiff-necked as your fathers were, but yield yourselves to the Lord and come to his sanctuary, which he has consecrated forever, and serve the Lord your God.
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Nebuchadnezzar answered and said, “Blessed be the God of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, who has sent his angel and delivered his servants, who trusted in him, and set aside[f] the king's command, and yielded up their bodies rather than serve and worship any god except their own God.
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And he said to all, “If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow me."
Best example is the process of salvation.
1. Hear the Gospel preached
2. Given Faith from God to Believe
3. YIELDING to God to let God do His Will.
Jesus said NOT MY WILL BE DONE but YOUR WILL be done.
Free Will is about YIELDING your will to God to feed the SPIRIT.
Choice is about which menu item do I want to eat to feed my FLESH.
Bless you for that reply Magenta but don't worry, i know even sites like this aren't always sweetness and light. At least his comments aren't the kind to take seriously, he could just be having one of those days and is out of sorts too.
Oh glory! Being told you blaspheme is horribly wrong but communicating by text online isn't a great medium, misunderstandings are far more likely. God's blessings and hugs from me for being concerned precious friend.
Oh glory! Being told you blaspheme is horribly wrong but communicating by text online isn't a great medium, misunderstandings are far more likely. God's blessings and hugs from me for being concerned precious friend.
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Wondered if determinism would get a mention, which is actually less likely to me than free will. Interesting comment Inquisitor, we might have a different view of what qualifies as free will. i would genuinely be interested if you can offer a good example you've witnessed.
Know that's a difficult question to answer off the cuff like this, clear cut examples of things rarely spring to my mind when they'd be handy.
Know that's a difficult question to answer off the cuff like this, clear cut examples of things rarely spring to my mind when they'd be handy.
Especially if it was intentional miscommunication to cause such problems, i obviously replied in good faith. Will continue to do so unless it's obvious people want to mislead, i love fun but not through abuse of other people.
Apologies GWH, reread your comment and realised it was in good faith, so sorry.
Apologies GWH, reread your comment and realised it was in good faith, so sorry.