CAN YOU WALK AWAY FROM POLITICS?

[JaumeJ]

In a democracy, Christians have an obligation to actively participate as we are called to be good stewards of the gifts given to us. That would be like King David saying, "I don't want to get involved in politics, I'm just going to stay out of it," and letting the country fall apart as a result. Maybe politics is so divisive because Spirit-filled followers of Christ have abandoned the sphere?

Show me the successor of King David, and I will show you our Eternal King. God has never, is not and never will be a supporter of any political party conceived by mankind.

Do not tell citizens of the King that it is necessary to be involved with any worldly political reason other than the Kingdom to come. This would be apostasy.

 

[kaylagrl]

Politics has penetrated to an unimaginable level in our life,It has been difficult for most to stay away from the influence of politics.
People have been blinded by politics.

Politics is spreading hatred.
Politics tells you who is your enemy and what is justice.

Then you get used to politics and forget who Christ is and what Christ is.

Proverbs 6:6-19 I think this is a good description of ugly politics.

Ye have heard that politics hath been said, hate thine enemy.

Matthew 5:44
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

You need to compare The words of Christ to find out the problem of politics.

Proverbs 20:22
Say not thou, I will recompense evil; but wait on the LORD, and he shall save thee.

20:23
Divers weights are an abomination unto the LORD; and a false balance is not good.

20:24
Man's goings are of the LORD; how can a man then understand his own way?

This is an over simplification of the situation.

 

[Oblio]

Absolutely well said!! Great point. We as Christians need to be involved while we are still here to make a change.

A Canadian high-school just removed the doors from the girls' bathroom because they were smoking in it. A handful of parents were peacefully protesting out in the parking lot.
The principal refused to talk with them. Instead, 5 police cruisers arrived and told them that if they didn't leave, they'd be charged with trespassing. It was Ottawa all over again!
This is what happens when Christians aren't involved. Good people do nothing...evil people succeed!

 

[ResidentAlien]

The New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) is one of the most politically active religious organizations around. Gaining worldly power and wealth is all part of their Seven Mountain Mandate program and the Great Transference of Wealth: that is, the transference of untold wealth from the "wicked" to the "righteous."

Paula White, Donald Trump's so-called spiritual adviser when he was in office, is a self-appointed apostle:

"On May 5, 2019, White announced that she was stepping down as senior pastor of New Destiny Christian Center and that her son and his wife would become the new senior pastors. The church would also be renamed City of Destiny. White said she would help start 3,000 churches and a university." (See article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paula_White)​

As part of this, White also announced that she would be stepping into the role of apostle:

"So today, I am officially installing Pastor Brad [White's son] and Pastor Rachel [his wife] as the senior pastors over City of Destiny. Everybody stand up on your feet because this is God's plan. I am moving to what I call oversight pastor, but let me explain that. That is apostolic, but I just have not embraced the title though. . .But as an apostolic overseer of City of Destiny, today officially, it's all been done legally, officially, we are City of Destiny. Welcome to your new beginning." (See article: https://www.christianpost.com/news/...-to-plant-3000-churches-start-university.html)​

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So not only do we have "pastor" Rachel, now we have "apostle" Paula, though apparently she doesn't want to use the title though it's clear she feels she has the "anointing." She will be spending her time overseeing the new pastors and planting new churches: that's what apostles do you see.

We should be aware of this evil and warn others but not get entangled in it ourselves.

"Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves. Therefore be wise as serpents and harmless as doves."—Matthew 10:16

 

[kaylagrl]

The New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) is one of the most politically active religious organizations around. Gaining worldly power and wealth is all part of their Seven Mountain Mandate program and the Great Transference of Wealth: that is, the transference of untold wealth from the "wicked" to the "righteous."

Paula White, Donald Trump's so-called spiritual adviser when he was in office, is a self-appointed apostle:

"On May 5, 2019, White announced that she was stepping down as senior pastor of New Destiny Christian Center and that her son and his wife would become the new senior pastors. The church would also be renamed City of Destiny. White said she would help start 3,000 churches and a university." (See article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paula_White)​

As part of this, White also announced that she would be stepping into the role of apostle:

"So today, I am officially installing Pastor Brad [White's son] and Pastor Rachel [his wife] as the senior pastors over City of Destiny. Everybody stand up on your feet because this is God's plan. I am moving to what I call oversight pastor, but let me explain that. That is apostolic, but I just have not embraced the title though. . .But as an apostolic overseer of City of Destiny, today officially, it's all been done legally, officially, we are City of Destiny. Welcome to your new beginning." (See article: https://www.christianpost.com/news/...-to-plant-3000-churches-start-university.html)​

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So not only do we have "pastor" Rachel, now we have "apostle" Paula, though apparently she doesn't want to use the title though it's clear she feels she has the "anointing." She will be spending her time overseeing the new pastors and planting new churches: that's what apostles do you see.

We should be aware of this evil and warn others but not get entangled in it ourselves.

"Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves. Therefore be wise as serpents and harmless as doves."—Matthew 10:16

smh



We are sorely in need of a "zip it" button. Some people just regurgitate the same thing over and over.

 

[XavierJesusLovesIndia]

There still are Pro-Life leaders in governments around the world. We must pray and work tirelessly for God's Will to be done on Earth as it is in Heaven. May God have Mercy on us all. If you're blessed to live in a state that is fighting abortion, and for Biblical Values, it's good to show your leaders your full support.

"Oklahoma Governor Kevin Stitt Tuesday signed an anti-abortion bill banning nearly all abortions in the state of Oklahoma.

Last year, the Oklahoma house had voted 70 to 14 to pass Bill 612 in the Senate. It will come into effect on August 26 this year.
Oklahoma, which was the next stop destination for Texas women who wanted to abort pregnancies after Texas banned the practice last year, is the latest Republican state to ban nearly all abortions. The bill is different from other states’ in that it is more stringent, leaving none but one exception where abortion can be legal." https://indianexpress.com/article/e...ortion-bill-abortions-bans-explained-7868252/

Here, in India, we unfortunately also have lax abortion laws. But some Good Justices recently opposed late-term abortions, saying they were clearly murder. Similar to US legislation, Judge Kurian Joseph said "we must show the mother the heartbeat of her child".

"New Delhi: The Supreme Court Monday denied a 20-year-old woman permission to terminate her over-25-week pregnancy, suggesting that aborting a foetus amounted to murder." https://theprint.in/india/governanc...rejects-20-year-old-mumbai-womans-plea/83524/

 

[Oblio]

Some late-term abortions need to be carried out on some of these politicians!
Of course I'm speaking about ousting them from office.
I would never think of actually hurting them!

 

[ResidentAlien]

I briefly attended a congregation once that proudly proclaimed as part of their mission statement to: "Change the world!"

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but we're not called to change the world but to let Christ's light shine in the darkness. The world is dark; it'll always be dark.

 

[Lanolin]

Jesus was not involved with politics

It was actually the politicians of the time (saducees and Pharisees, King Herod etc) that wanted to kill him

so to say Jesus abidicated his obligation or responsibilty and let the country (Israel) fall apart is a bit ignorant on what He actually did.

Jesus reach went far beyond the political borders of his own nation and his own people

Christians also do this.,,they go beyond..Doctors without borders etc.

 

[EyeWitness]

It is absolutely true that voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil. This is why I do not vote. Love the sinners hate the sin though.

Good for you!

 

[Magenta]

The thing is, if they are true Christians, God will let them know to be involved or not.
We shouldn't immediately make up our minds because of the times we live in.
We should be led by the Spirit of the Lord in everything we do.

Amen. Saying someone else should do as you do (not you personally) because you do it,
totally overlooks the fact that we are not all called to/for the same mundane purposes.

 

[JTB]

https://christianchat.com/conspiracy-corruption-discussion-forum/left-or-right.205200/

 

[Oblio]

Amen. Saying someone else should do as you do (not you personally) because you do it,
totally overlooks the fact that we are not all called to/for the same mundane purposes.

But it's the BDF, heck, the Christian forum thing to do!

 

[Beckie]

Beckie, what does this passage mean to you? Also, was the bolded portion intentional? If so, what point are you trying to make?

We are to occupy. The word occupy has meaning ... At 75 i well remember my parents talking about the Lord coming soon ... the boys ( younger brothers) do not need higher education cause the Lord is coming soon.. After 1948 so many Christians pulled out of being a part of the community. Off school boards out of local politics, God is in control we need do nothing. Forgetting the Book of James. Yes God is in control but reading the Scriptures do we not see how often God used people? How many stories can we find in the OT where God did not use His people. Noah built the Ark. Joseph was a big part of the politics of Egypt. God used Samael, David, Saul, are we so different God will not use us?

Many of the Scriptures are kinda military sounding,,,, i did not look at context for these words ....the word war is used 225 times fight 112... army 82 times Battle 178 times .... soldier used 37 times... Most likely there are more words just not coming to mind...Setting back removing ourselves from the communities God has placed us in to my thinking is a lack of faith along with a willingness to serve.

 

[Beckie]

The world would be a much better pace today if Trump hadn't been cheated out of his second term. If you disagree with that, well, I don't want to hear about it.

Totally agree BUT to me God is not finished putting the USA citizens on their knees before Him.

Rom 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

God often gave His people ugly leaders/kings

 

[Oblio]

One day last year, all of a sudden, I saw in front of me the wall of a large wave, up close. You know, under the curled-over top. In the wave-wall I saw Donald Trump and an F-18. A vision? Bad pizza? You decide!

 

[Aaron56]

Setting back removing ourselves from the communities God has placed us in to my thinking is a lack of faith along with a willingness to serve.

So, are you saying that we are to be serving in our communities on boards, committees, etc.? Or generally serving others?

I guess I'm not sure how national politics fits into this subject but maybe I'm not understanding.

 

[Beckie]

So, are you saying that we are to be serving in our communities on boards, committees, etc.? Or generally serving others?

I guess I'm not sure how national politics fits into this subject but maybe I'm not understanding.

I dont separate politics to me they are all one in the same. Local politics are the building blocks for county, state, federal .

 

[Aaron56]

I dont separate politics to me they are all one in the same. Local politics are the building blocks for county, state, federal .

Thank you for clarifying that.

 

[Chester]

Please consider and pray about the question presented in this topic.

Then answer the question in good faith and with a good conscience.

I distance myself from politics. I am not registered to vote. Jesus is Lord and he rules over all at all times. All people should serve him.

Politics is just another cause for division and it diverts many from the truth.

Can you stay away from politics and point others to the Christ who is the one in charge?

I have chosen to be a part of a kingdom that is ruled by the King of Kings. The citizens of this kingdom are not tied to one geographic location, but are scattered throughout the kingdoms of this world. These are salt and light and are ambassadors of the heavenly kingdom. The laws and rules that I follow are those of my King. Yes, I will also obey the laws of the earthly kingdom that I live in (but only when those laws do not conflict with the Divine law).

So, I do not participate in the politics of this earthly kingdom. And as such I will not go to war (when an earthly King asks) and kill heavenly citizens that live in another geographic location.