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Elijah19

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Psalm 133:1
Behold, how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity!

Titus 3:9
[FONT=Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.[/FONT]

[FONT=Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Hey Saints! ;)[/FONT]

[FONT=Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]So, just to say, I want to give a hearty thank you to all the people who have given me help and spiritual guidance and encouragement on this site. You've been a big support and God bless you.[/FONT]

[FONT=Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]One thing I'd like to mention for your benefit... I wish everybody would listen to Titus 3:9 a little more on here. See, it seems like people fight a lot on Christianchat about different subjects more than encourage one another or just go with a direct quote from the Bible when they disagree (the best way of getting a true opinion, honestly).[/FONT]

[FONT=Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The thing is, the Bible is about Salvation and people getting closer to Jesus their Creator. Finding redemption and truth in it's pages is the primary concern, not proving a point for personal gain or satisfaction. The minute standing up for God becomes a matter of personal satisfaction and pride rather than giving up all for him in humility is the minute you lose the point entirely. Honestly, I can understand that there will always be differences in interpretation of scripture until the end. But arguing from a human standpoint for human pride and personal satisfaction is simply not of God. Who are you really shouting and quarreling for; God or yourself?

Consider this:
If your really want to reach the people you disagree with on a Biblical subject, are you trying to convince them of your opinion because you love them and want them to get closer to God, or are you just trying to win a fight for personal satisfaction and pride. The kingdom of God is not a matter of contention and strife, but of victory through compassion and submission to HIS will in love and truth. There is a difference, though it may appear very subtle.

Brothers and Sisters, do not turn a battle for truth into a battle for pride. If you cannot manage that, then perhaps it is better to agree to disagree with your brother on a scriptural subject than to fight with the devil's tactics. Fighting for self under the guise of fighting for God can be just as damaging to the Kingdom as fighting for Satan.

Wishing you Peace, Love ;)

Elijah19

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Yeah we could on this forum but we'd all be sitting in silence:p
 
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Elijah19

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Ha! LOL, that's probably true, unless we all started encouraging one another in Christ instead ;)!

Seriously, though, thanks for the link. Very informative... Cool.
 
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Mitspa

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Elijah...whenever I see someone lecture other members about unity ...I get a little suspicious ...because often they themselves are guilty of causing contention and harsh debate on the forum... for example, here is one of your post

"In fact, I have never met a Christian in my life yet who had the ability to (as far as I can tell) really speak in tongues. Maybe they were and just needed an interpreter, so I don't know. But every time I've actually heard somebody speak in "tongues" I can tell that these people are struggling with trying to make up words that sound like language or are talking just plain gibberish."
 
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Elijah19

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True Mitspa, and good of you to point out, yet Paul himself lectured on Unity... so not everyone who does it must be causing contention (though I am most certainly not as good as Paul, nor claim to be).

It is true, I haven't always chosen to preach or act beyond my own personal pride, either. I admit my own sin fully before God and man for cross examination. But whether I or others are contending about anything, God is always the true light.

As for the quote you mentioned above, when I posted that quote I was making an honest observation and asking a legitimate question about something I needed more information about, not actually trying to cause argument for personal pride. I'll even go so far here as to say I may even be wrong in what I said there.

Remember, don't listen to me or a man on matters of the Spirit. If I am wrong in anything, ignore this mortal fool. But above all else, listen to God!

Thank you my friend...
 
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As I read this post, I was reminded of this verse. :)

"Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good. Be kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour preferring one another; Bless them which persecute you: bless, and curse not. Rejoice with them that do rejoice, and weep with them that weep. Be of the same mind one toward another. Mind not high things, but condescend to men of low estate. Be not wise in your own conceits. Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men. If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men. Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord. Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head. Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good." ~ Romans 12: 9, 10 & 14-21
 
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Mitspa

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Elijah19 said:
True Mitspa, and good of you to point out, yet Paul himself lectured on Unity... so not everyone who does it must be causing contention (though I am most certainly not as good as Paul, nor claim to be).

It is true, I haven't always chosen to preach or act beyond my own personal pride, either. I admit my own sin fully before God and man for cross examination. But whether I or others are contending about anything, God is always the true light.

As for the quote you mentioned above, when I posted that quote I was making an honest observation and asking a legitimate question about something I needed more information about, not actually trying to cause argument for personal pride. I'll even go so far here as to say I may even be wrong in what I said there.

Remember, don't listen to me or a man on matters of the Spirit. If I am wrong in anything, ignore this mortal fool. But above all else, listen to God!

Thank you my friend...
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Yea I sure we all can sometimes be frustrated and fail to hear the voice of the Spirit in our conversations on the forum...but to suggest that all reproof and correction and even strong debate on certain issues is not biblical or Spiritual, is just wrong.

I think its safe to say that a large portion of the discussion on this forum..is not in the Spirit of Christ at all..because a large percentage of the folks on this forum don't have the Spirit of Christ? Maybe some who would make fun of the gifts of the Spirit..should ask themselves if they really have the Spirit themselves?
 
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John 15:12
“This is my commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you.
 
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Mitspa

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2Jo 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
10 ¶ If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.


See we are not supposed to be kind to those who teach false doctrine...if we are ...we become guilty of their evil deeds.
 
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Mitspa

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GracethroughfaithinChrist said:
John 15:12
“This is my commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you.
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Joh 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
 
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Elijah19

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Don't worry, Mitspa.

I am not trying to "suggest that all reproof and correction and even strong debate on certain issues is not biblical or Spiritual". My point is merely that some people on here (sometimes) are not debating for God, but rather for themselves...

I can tell, for example, that your entries are Spirit led in genuine concern rather than based human pride.

On that note, debates and standing up strong against the devil and his plans on the Christianchat forum is definitely the right thing to do. God bless you for standing up yourself, and keep it up! ;)
 
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Elijah19

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Also, perhaps I should mention on here that my call for unity is not a call for the "tolerance" of ungodly doctrine. If someone is teaching something against the Scripture, by all means it is your God-given and endowed right to correct them with all strength and ardor! The point here is not to encourage tolerance of wrong practice/doctrine, but rather to discourage pointless fighting over unprofitable subjects that are "neither here nor there" in terms of salvation, so to speak.

For example, so many people like to argue about the tribulation. But whether it happens before, during, or after the rapture will ultimately not make a mite of difference in the long run in terms of our salvation, since Jesus will win in the end and we will reign with him anyway... So whether you are pre, mid, or post tribulation in philosophy, if you have Jesus you are still saved regardless, and it ultimately doesn't matter and fighting about it is pointless.
 
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(can't help but wonder why I'm hearing John Lennon singing........sigh)
 
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fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
 
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Elijah19 said:
Also, perhaps I should mention on here that my call for unity is not a call for the "tolerance" of ungodly doctrine. If someone is teaching something against the Scripture, by all means it is your God-given and endowed right to correct them with all strength and ardor! The point here is not to encourage tolerance of wrong practice/doctrine, but rather to discourage pointless fighting over unprofitable subjects that are "neither here nor there" in terms of salvation, so to speak.

For example, so many people like to argue about the tribulation. But whether it happens before, during, or after the rapture will ultimately not make a mite of difference in the long run in terms of our salvation, since Jesus will win in the end and we will reign with him anyway... So whether you are pre, mid, or post tribulation in philosophy, if you have Jesus you are still saved regardless, and it ultimately doesn't matter and fighting about it is pointless.
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Elijah, good words but stay active on this forum for a couple of months and you'll end up just like us...NWAA HA HA :mad:
 
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Conflict is good. Most people just don't know how to do it right.
 
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Colossians 3:16-17
[SUP]16 [/SUP] Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom, teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.
[SUP]17 [/SUP] And whatever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through Him.

2 Timothy 4:2-4
[SUP]2 [/SUP] Preach the word! Be ready in season and out of season. Convince, rebuke, exhort, with all longsuffering and teaching.
[SUP]3 [/SUP] For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers;
[SUP]4 [/SUP] and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables.

We are to teach and admonish one another! We are to Preach the Word, convince, rebuke, exhort!

Sounds to me you are not really a True Christian. Its always those who really do not follow Jesus who claim we are to just love one another and keep silence on what God says in the Scriptures.
 
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[video=youtube;vo9AH4vG2wA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo9AH4vG2wA[/video]
 
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sassylady

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I honestly don't see that much in the way of strife, and we all have a different opinion at some point. Which is why we all need to work out our own salvation. I've been on the religious section of a secular Q&A site and this one is so much nicer and far more reverent, that when I see a disagreement it doesn't seem all that bad at all.
 
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