Catholic Heresy (for the record)

[fordman]

Just admiring the plinth LOL LOL LOL

So Pop's, when you and the rest of Queen Elizabeth II subjects bow/curtsy to her, are you worshipping her?

Quite frankly, I don't understand why you all still put up with that monarchy nonsence! I'm grateful our fore fathers/ minutemen booted your redcoats back across the pond to England to a sobbing King George III. Lol!!!

 

[mattp0625]

So Pop's, when you and the rest of Queen Elizabeth II subjects bow/curtsy to her, are you worshipping her?

Quite frankly, I don't understand why you all still put up with that monarchy nonsence! I'm grateful our fore fathers/ minutemen booted your redcoats back across the pond to England to a sobbing King George III. Lol!!!

But wait wait, when they bow before the Queen, does that mean they do not accept the Prime Minister as Prime Minister?? Those must not be real Brits.... Furthermore, they should be exiled as traitors!

 

[Jeff_56]

You continue to endeavor to defame me instead of providing biblical evidence that what I have said is incorrect. You continue to forward ideology that is counter to the bible. Your argument is not with me but with God. I have only told you what God has written in His word. I do not consider the pope to be a reliable source of Spiritual guidance.

Persuade me from the scriptures or reconsider your position.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

as proven always. by yahweh's WORD. by yahshua. by all ekklesia. the pope is antichrist - period. always has been, always will be, can never be anything else; it is WRITTEN. (the deceived cannot understand nor even see part of the kingdom of heaven - they are deceived, remember?).

they don't want to defame you, per se. they really really really THINK they are brothers in christ. of course,
they cannot be in christ if they trust the pope. at least not for very long. ( a newly saved person might often trust someone demonic; the good shepherd leads them right and true, so if and as they trust the good shepherd, JESUS, HE leads them out of the demonic deceptions.


....................... unless they want, desire, chose or love the approval of men instead of yahweh. then they hate the light, and then they hate the true children of yahweh - they cannot stand them, any more than they can stand the real true JESUS and HIS WORD.

there is nothing in HIS WORD that indicates those who trust heretics are brothers at all in christ -
and everything
to show
that they have been given over to their own delusion by the creator, because they refuse to believe
the truth......

and those he gives up to believe their own delusion, we cannot in any way help to come to truth and life in christ jesus.....

if yahweh has not given them up to believe the lie, then perhaps they can be helped,
but
then they give up the lie to receive the truth,
and they then after the sorrow that leads to repentance from it,
they rejoice in freedom from rcc heresy instead of
remaining
deceived
and
condemned......

 

[mattp0625]

as proven always. by yahweh's WORD. by yahshua. by all ekklesia. the pope is antichrist - period. always has been, always will be, can never be anything else; it is WRITTEN. (the deceived cannot understand nor even see part of the kingdom of heaven - they are deceived, remember?).

they don't want to defame you, per se. they really really really THINK they are brothers in christ. of course,
they cannot be in christ if they trust the pope. at least not for very long. ( a newly saved person might often trust someone demonic; the good shepherd leads them right and true, so if and as they trust the good shepherd, JESUS, HE leads them out of the demonic deceptions.


....................... unless they want, desire, chose or love the approval of men instead of yahweh. then they hate the light, and then they hate the true children of yahweh - they cannot stand them, any more than they can stand the real true JESUS and HIS WORD.

there is nothing in HIS WORD that indicates those who trust heretics are brothers at all in christ -
and everything
to show
that they have been given over to their own delusion by the creator, because they refuse to believe
the truth......

and those he gives up to believe their own delusion, we cannot in any way help to come to truth and life in christ jesus.....

if yahweh has not given them up to believe the lie, then perhaps they can be helped,
but
then they give up the lie to receive the truth,
and they then after the sorrow that leads to repentance from it,
they rejoice in freedom from rcc heresy instead of
remaining
deceived
and
condemned......

When did Jesus give you authority to condemn, again?
Maybe you can answer the outstanding questions previously posted as well?

 

[Jeff_56]

as yahshua himself said - it is not even him who condemns or judges anyone.... it is HIS WORD. plain and simple and truth. no one can know HIS WORD as long as they trust something else.


nothing you've brought up is worth discussing, and will not benefit anyone in any way, not as long as you believe and trust in the heresy instead of trusting GOD'S WORD by faith in JESUS ALONE (not in man/ not in demonic doctrines/ no demonic practices ).

--- the only effects of the heresy is to destroy souls. that is all it has done for almost 2000 years.... it has NEVER helped anyone.

When did Jesus give you authority to condemn, again?
Maybe you can answer the outstanding questions previously posted as well?

 

[mattp0625]

as yahshua himself said - it is not even him who condemns or judges anyone.... it is HIS WORD. plain and simple and truth. no one can know HIS WORD as long as they trust something else.


nothing you've brought up is worth discussing, and will not benefit anyone in any way, not as long as you believe and trust in the heresy instead of trusting GOD'S WORD by faith in JESUS ALONE (not in man/ not in demonic doctrines/ no demonic practices ).

--- the only effects of the heresy is to destroy souls. that is all it has done for almost 2000 years.... it has NEVER helped anyone.

I see. So because you have the real Word and real truth, you have the knowledge to issue condemnations. Oh, and no responses allowed. Makes sense, my keyboard condemnation officer!

Now remind me- which Protestant sect has the real truth?? Lutherans? Baptists? Anabaptists? Presbyterian? Methodists? Adventists? Congregationalists? Pentecostals? Who did I miss?

 

[mikeuk]

so you deny that that is a graven image? what then is it?

you shall not make to yourself a graven image in the likeness of ANY form in the heavens above, or in the earth beneath, or in the waters under the earth, YOU SHALL NOT BOW DOWN TO THEM ---.' (Exod 20.4-5; Deut 5.9). Pretty clear really, except to Roman Catholic scholars,-

That of course is the problem with " proof texting" - the Protestant habit of snatching verses out of context, to " prove" something never intended by scripture.

The context is " you shall have no other gods before me" , admonishing them for creating images as false gods such as the golden calf of Exodus, which is the meaning of that scripture. Jesus identified his line as that of davidic kings, and Solomon's temple is recorded as having statues of seraphim so proving your assertions wrong. Valiant , psalms states clearly that private interpretation of scripture is wrong, and the tangents you go off at, proves why private interpretation is deprecated - indeed Luther despaired of it in later life, that all claimed the right to their " own" doctrinal interpretation.

 

[Jeff_56]

since you (every catholic and anyone else who so far has trusted in the heresy) admit you're

not in the flock (ekklesia, born again ones, set apart ones)

of sheep following the shepherd JESUS

since you admit you're not seeking yahshua(jesus) apart from heresy, you have made your own choice.

he says himself that it is HIS WORD, not any man on earth, that judges you.

you will have to face him when you are resurrected unto judgment and shame,

unless yahweh grants you a soft heart to turn to him away from all of your sin that you've admitted so far,

including getting away from the heresy and not trusting it any more.

 

[mattp0625]

Still no answer?
i forgot to include United

 

[Jeff_56]

still no life ?

 

[mikeuk]

you will have to face him when you are resurrected unto judgment and shame,
.

And so will you too, reminding you that you should " judge not, lest ye be judged" and that " bearing false witness" , the substance of most of your false and repeated rhetoric , is a breach of his commandments.

 

[Jeff_56]

when a democrat, a loud vocal democrat, goes to a republican convention, do they let him stay and scout them out and infiltrate them and so on ?


no.


neither do the ekklesia let an evil deceptive heresy remain in their midst. they obey JESUS / GOD'S WORD

and put out the evil from their midst.

oh, if someone comes seeking truth and not promoting heresy, then they might be helped.

just no promoting evil deceptive heresy and no studying it ----

any more than republicans let the democrats teach their children to be democrats - they are 'opposites' if

you can understand that.

the rcc heresy is the opposite of TRUTH and completely opposed to GOD and to the GOSPEL,

and GOD says to never study it nor ever to take part in it, nor in any of its idolatries.

 

[mattp0625]

when a democrat, a loud vocal democrat, goes to a republican convention, do they let him stay and scout them out and infiltrate them and so on ?


no.


neither do the ekklesia let an evil deceptive heresy remain in their midst. they obey JESUS / GOD'S WORD

and put out the evil from their midst.

oh, if someone comes seeking truth and not promoting heresy, then they might be helped.

just no promoting evil deceptive heresy and no studying it ----

any more than republicans let the democrats teach their children to be democrats - they are 'opposites' if

you can understand that.

the rcc heresy is the opposite of TRUTH and completely opposed to GOD and to the GOSPEL,

and GOD says to never study it nor ever to take part in it, nor in any of its idolatries.

So it's Gods will to shout down the other side of a discussion? No responses allowed, but name calling is allowed? You're 100% right end of story? You forgot to tell me which Protestant sect has it right. Your answer??

 

[Jeff_56]

you forgot or didn't read the site rules (and the OP of this thread by the owner and all the admins) i guess.

according to the site, rcc catholicism is heresy. period. no need for discussion. rcc should not even be here
unless
they want to be set free and learn the TRUTH.

yahweh said rcc is condemned even before it ever started. before the creation of the world he knew it.

yahshua said rcc is condemned even before it ever started.

SCRIPTURE says rcc is heresy.

so it is not just the owner of this site you are on trying to promote your heresy,

and not just the admins,

and not just all of the ekklesia (everyone born again knows).

everyone who loves TRUTH hates the heresy for what it is, and for causing the loss of your soul and all the souls it has destroyed every day throughout its history.

 

[mattp0625]

Soooo you're declining to answer the question is what I'm hearing.

 

[Jeff_56]

you're not hearing anything. if you could hear, if you could see, you would fall on your face and

cry out to the father in heaven to save your life, and you would repent of all and any association with

idolatry.

 

[mattp0625]

Oh ok. My mistake. So what's the answer? Methodist? Adventist?

 

[Jeff_56]

you go ahead and pick one to learn from. (you are obviously not learning anything online from anyone, anything related to TRUTH that is; you will have to go out and seek TRUTH to even hope to find TRUTH --
and
you
will find that almost anything at all different from the heresy is thus better than the heresy
and
instead
of being death dealing, you might find one or another or the way of GOD'S WORD to LIFE to replace the death
you
have been immersed in.

oh, that doesn't mean that any other group can help you --- if you trust in yourself or in any other group as if
they can help you, then you have still not learned anything.

but at least if you start seeking TRUTH, if you trust yahweh as you seek, HE will do as HE pleases,

and HE might allow you to not die separate and apart from HIM .

 

[mattp0625]

No answer. Understood

 

[Jeff_56]

if you love GOD and HIS WORD, follow the roman catholic priest out of catholicism unto life HIMSELF(JESUS).

of course, remember if you become a christian in TRUTH, the rcc will excommunicate you, and your family and friends and others may hate you and be your worse enemies....

Chiniquy was born in 1809 in the village of Kamouraska, Quebec. He lost his father at an early age and was adopted by his uncle. As a young man, Chiniquy studied to become a Catholic priest at the Petit Seminaire (Little Seminary) in Nicolet, Quebec. He was ordained a Catholic priest in 1833. After his ordination, he served his church in Quebec and later emigrated to Illinois. During the 1840s, he led a very successful[SUP][citation needed][/SUP] campaign throughout Quebec against alcohol and drunkenness.

In 1855, he was sued by a prominent Catholic layman named Peter Spink in Kankakee, Illinois. After the fall court term, Spink applied for a change of venue to the court in Urbana. Abraham Lincoln was then hired by Chiniquy to defend him. The spring court action in Urbana was the highest profile libel suit in Lincoln’s career.[SUP][1][/SUP]

"fifty years in the church of rome" (the saved priests book) (saved out of it to true salvation in JESUS by GOD'S WORD AND GRACE)