Catholic Heresy (for the record)
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[h=3]Waldenses and the Bible[/h]www.giveshare.org/library/bible/waldensesandbible.html
Since I believe He purposed that the scriptures should be kept by His Church, ... A careful study of the history of the ancient Waldenses, and of Bible texts and .... The Latin Bible, the Italic, was translated from the Greek not later than 157 A. D. .
The Jews had the first half done long before the RCC came along. God uses whom He pleases to accomplish His purposes.
I'm one of them that wishes the RCC would follow the book instead of inventing their own rites and superstitions.
Why can't you give credit to God for writing and protecting His word through the millennia? Why do you rob God of His glory and attribute it to the RCC? Is the RCC greater than God?
For the cause of Christ
Roger
I'm one of them that wishes the RCC would follow the book instead of inventing their own rites and superstitions.
Why can't you give credit to God for writing and protecting His word through the millennia? Why do you rob God of His glory and attribute it to the RCC? Is the RCC greater than God?
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Catholic doctrine is scriptural and at the council of Trent the Holy Spirit inspired them to put the books, gospels, and letters in a certain order called the cannon. It is your private interpreting (which is wrong) that causes all of this nonsense. Why would they give us a book contrary to teaching? That makes no sense
you keep trying to find a way to defend the heresy, and you have failed long before you began.
the rcc has no life. no way to give life. they tell their priests even that everyone is TOO EVIL TO TALK TO JESUS.
and they are right about the rcc members --- they are TOO EVIL , and they think they are, to seek JESUS and talk to HIM. unless they repent. but INSTEAD, they compound their SIN, and seek mary, in idolatry, and they never repent.
the rcc has no life. no way to give life. they tell their priests even that everyone is TOO EVIL TO TALK TO JESUS.
and they are right about the rcc members --- they are TOO EVIL , and they think they are, to seek JESUS and talk to HIM. unless they repent. but INSTEAD, they compound their SIN, and seek mary, in idolatry, and they never repent.
You equate catechism with scripture and this is an error. Grace is received by faith and that faith comes by hearing the word of God. Grace does not come from sacraments.
The RCC has seduced men to believe that they have control over Gods grace. They do not and even worse they are not partakers themselves. Hebrews 10:10-12 is really hard on the RCC and it's doctrine of infused grace through sacraments. Read the entire 10th chapter and see that I'm not taking anything out of context.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
The RCC has seduced men to believe that they have control over Gods grace. They do not and even worse they are not partakers themselves. Hebrews 10:10-12 is really hard on the RCC and it's doctrine of infused grace through sacraments. Read the entire 10th chapter and see that I'm not taking anything out of context.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
just because you haven't experienced it, doesn't mean anything.
maybe you have not yet, and maybe you are so deceived from the truth, (as you have made yourself or allowed yourself to be),
baseless? exposed by yahweh, HIS WORD, yahshua, and everyone who follows Jesus in the last 2000 years, hundreds of "reformers" (not all have all right, but enough to get out away from demonic heresy of the mother of harlots , the rcc)
HIS WORD, simple enough for a baby , for a lamb, for a sheep to know and come out of the deception of the rcc.
and you think you know something? as it is written, you know nothing, and even "keep studying and never come to the knowledge of the truth"....
why do you keep defending the heresy? why do you keep on believing the liars you are defending ?
it will cause you eternal death with no way of escape if you don't come out from the evil of the rcc, if you trust the rcc,
and if you continue to not trust JESUS and HIS WORD. (sorry - HE says that because you are blind , but claim you can see, that you have no excuse - you cannot save yourself; IF you admitted you are blind, you would not be held guilty, and would have a chance to receive LIFE IN JESUS (as it is WRITTEN IN HIS WORD) ) .
you can reply ad nauzeum for as long as you live, whether 1 minute or 5 decades,
and
if you are not shown mercy by the father in heaven, you will not ever come to jesus but
will keep staying away with a hard heart, and will never see heaven.
if you come to Jesus, you will be brought out of (or KICKED OUT BY THEM) the rcc. Jesus and the rcc are total enemies, completely.
maybe you have not yet, and maybe you are so deceived from the truth, (as you have made yourself or allowed yourself to be),
baseless? exposed by yahweh, HIS WORD, yahshua, and everyone who follows Jesus in the last 2000 years, hundreds of "reformers" (not all have all right, but enough to get out away from demonic heresy of the mother of harlots , the rcc)
HIS WORD, simple enough for a baby , for a lamb, for a sheep to know and come out of the deception of the rcc.
and you think you know something? as it is written, you know nothing, and even "keep studying and never come to the knowledge of the truth"....
why do you keep defending the heresy? why do you keep on believing the liars you are defending ?
it will cause you eternal death with no way of escape if you don't come out from the evil of the rcc, if you trust the rcc,
and if you continue to not trust JESUS and HIS WORD. (sorry - HE says that because you are blind , but claim you can see, that you have no excuse - you cannot save yourself; IF you admitted you are blind, you would not be held guilty, and would have a chance to receive LIFE IN JESUS (as it is WRITTEN IN HIS WORD) ) .
you can reply ad nauzeum for as long as you live, whether 1 minute or 5 decades,
and
if you are not shown mercy by the father in heaven, you will not ever come to jesus but
will keep staying away with a hard heart, and will never see heaven.
if you come to Jesus, you will be brought out of (or KICKED OUT BY THEM) the rcc. Jesus and the rcc are total enemies, completely.
If you are speaking of the New Testament it was not one church but many. It was a large number of independent churches. No one was in overall control but God. The letters of Paul and Peter were passed around between churches and by the time of Peter's second letter were seen as Scripture simply by 'common' agreement. No human being or group said 'you must all believe them'. They accepted them because they knew that they were the work of Apostles. It was the work of the Spirit. The same happened with the Gospels and Acts. They were written and immediately copied and placed in churches where everyone could read them, being acknowledged as Aposotolic works. The New Testament just 'grew' by general agreement.
Some were initially accepted by the churches in one place, and then spread around as the work of Apostles. Others were initially accepted in other places, It was a joint effort coordinated by the Holy Spirit. Indeed it had to be. No church at the time was in any position to insist on their acceptance. Probably by about 80 AD a great many churches of various sizes had copies of at least three of he Gospels. and Paul's and Peter's letters.
It was certainly not due to the Roman Catholic church which did not come into existence until centuries after. Nor was it due to one single hierarchy. It was on the basis of the testimony of those who knew who had written what, and different ones were established in different independent churches.
Some were initially accepted by the churches in one place, and then spread around as the work of Apostles. Others were initially accepted in other places, It was a joint effort coordinated by the Holy Spirit. Indeed it had to be. No church at the time was in any position to insist on their acceptance. Probably by about 80 AD a great many churches of various sizes had copies of at least three of he Gospels. and Paul's and Peter's letters.
It was certainly not due to the Roman Catholic church which did not come into existence until centuries after. Nor was it due to one single hierarchy. It was on the basis of the testimony of those who knew who had written what, and different ones were established in different independent churches.
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Your question is childish showing no knowledge of reality. King James actually had little to do with the putting together of the King James Bible. It was accomplished by groups of scholars. As were many of the Bibles which led up to it. Our Bibles today are based on manuscripts and papyri which were in existence long before the Roman Catholic church. The order of the books is unimportant. No one knows who fixed on the order we now have them in.