Catholic Heresy (for the record)

[mwc68]

Here is the definition of Dogma: a principle or set of principles laid down by an authority(in this case the Catholic Church ) as incontrovertibly true

 

[kennethcadwell]

Its called dogma and no use going into it with you! I believe this and you can't change that! So, please lets drop it

Keep believing a lie that she was sinless as that is up to you, but you have been shown the truth from many on here by scripture she wasn't....

Our Lord Jesus Christ is the only one who was sinless and scripture proves it !!!


We love our brothers and sisters from the Catholic church, even though I know some may go the wrong way at how they come at you or speak to you. But it is because of that love that we are trying to show you the truth, as I know the Catholic church does teach some truths from the bible, but they also teach some falsehoods to just like any other denomination.....

 

[kennethcadwell]

Here is the definition of Dogma: a principle or set of principles laid down by an authority(in this case the Catholic Church ) as incontrovertibly true

Keep believing this to if you want, but the bible makes it clear that if what they say does not align with His Word it is false teaching. For God warns about adding or taking away from His word !!!

 

[FancyNancy]

She was without original sin, not sinless

All you have to do is PROVE IT. I'll wait.

 

[FancyNancy]

Yes, that's my story and i am sticking to it no matter how much fun you make of me

Jesus was and is sinless because He is God in the flesh. He never required the woman in which He grew as a baby to be sinless. What would that look like, anyway? Is sin in the uterus? How utterly goofy.

 

[mwc68]

All you have to do is PROVE IT. I'll wait.

Refer to my posts above. i am done with this issue. you've laid out your case, I've laid out mine. We get nowhere as usual

 

[Jackson123]

Here is the definition of Dogma: a principle or set of principles laid down by an authority(in this case the Catholic Church ) as incontrovertibly true

Don't believe in dogma if the authority is not God word.

 

[FancyNancy]

Amplified Bible( luv my amplifiers! Lol) Luke 1:28 and he came to her and said Hail o favored one[endued with grace]! The Lord is with you! Blessed(favored of God) are you before all other women!

Verse 30 and the angel said to her, Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found grace(free, spontaneous, absolute favor and loving-kindness) with God!

Much to your disappointment, the old English word "hail" is not a high and mighty acclamation. It is merely the precursor to today's "hello".

 

[mwc68]

Keep believing a lie that she was sinless as that is up to you, but you have been shown the truth from many on here by scripture she wasn't....

Our Lord Jesus Christ is the only one who was sinless and scripture proves it !!!


We love our brothers and sisters from the Catholic church, even though I know some may go the wrong way at how they come at you or speak to you. But it is because of that love that we are trying to show you the truth, as I know the Catholic church does teach some truths from the bible, but they also teach some falsehoods to just like any other denomination.....

To tell you the truth, i am becoming disturbed by these forums. I just don't see much love happening here.

 

[FancyNancy]

The most Blessed Virgin Mary was, from the first moment of her conception, by a singular grace and privilege of Almighty God and by virtue of the merits of Jesus Christ, Savior of the human race, preserved immune from all stain of original sin

Despite your coming across all soupy and religious, you have to prove it.

 

[FancyNancy]

Its called dogma and no use going into it with you! I believe this and you can't change that! So, please lets drop it

Yeah, you choose to believe it now that you've been presented with the truth. So, despite the truth, you embrace error. That is a perfect example of deception.

 

[ThomistColin]

Much to your disappointment, the old English word "hail" is not a high and mighty acclamation. It is merely the precursor to today's "hello".

No it isn't. Hello as a word of greeting did not become so until the invention of the Phone. Prior to that it was a word of surprise or confusion.

 

[mwc68]

Jesus was and is sinless because He is God in the flesh. He never required the woman in which He grew as a baby to be sinless. What would that look like, anyway? Is sin in the uterus? How utterly goofy.

The woman? I do understand ya'll have no honor for Mary! I hope that won't be held against you! I know if it was my mom, id hold it against you, then again I'm not God

 

[mwc68]

Ya'll thought you could beat me into submission. The exact opposite happened, I'm just going away

 

[Jackson123]

Ya'll thought you could beat me into submission. The exact opposite happened, I'm just going away

You are in submission in non biblical doctrine.

 

[Pumicestone]

Originally Posted by Pumicestone

Now Ken, I have no problem with some good ole Catholic-bashing. It's always good sport and they're pretty easy targets with their array of silly doctrines ...

BUT, we do our own credibility a disservice when we gild the lily by exaggerating.
They do not 'Worship Mary as their God' "

FancyNancy[/COLOR]
Well when you consider that they pray to saints when Jesus is our only intercessor, they in fact place their saint du jour in the place of Jesus.
What is it called when one gives honour or place to something or someone over the rightful place that Jesus is to occupy?
Idolatry, you say?

Gold star for you!

Now "Ken" ...

I can talk to other women in the flesh or online, including "Fancy" Nancies - I might even ask them for stuff (can you spare $20?).
That does not mean that I am placing those women "in place" of my wife.
And certainly not above my wife.

Same thing.

 

[FancyNancy]

Originally Posted by Pumicestone

Now Ken, I have no problem with some good ole Catholic-bashing. It's always good sport and they're pretty easy targets with their array of silly doctrines ...

BUT, we do our own credibility a disservice when we gild the lily by exaggerating.
They do not 'Worship Mary as their God' "

I can talk to other women in the flesh or online, including "Fancy" Nancies - I might even ask them for stuff (can you spare $20?).
That does not mean that I am placing those women "in place" of my wife.
And certainly not above my wife.

Same thing.

I can see that the heavy import of this issue and the shame of the sin of it flies right over your sweet little head.

 

[FancyNancy]

Following your logic, why didn't God just create Jesus out of dust? Why use Mary at all? Unless she has a special purpose. Do you not trust God that Mary is part of His plan? Afterall, He did choose her to bear Jesus. Do you really want to continue slapping God in the face and tell Him Mary is just some woman? Mine aren't that big if you know what I mean

Jesus needed a mother who would nurture Him. But you slap JESUS in the face when you step over Him and go right to some obscure saint for some kind of heavenly favour.

Do you want to know what happens to those misdirected prayers? Let me tell you. They bounce right back into the heavenlies and Satan's demons intercept them and answer them instead. In this way, they can bolster your faith in a lie, and then play with you, laughing all the while at you and thumbing their noses at the Lord.

Poor catholic dupes.

 

[FancyNancy]

We worship God, not a book and look up the Council of Rome 382 ad to see where you got your bible

You cannot be worshiping God when your worship is divided between Him and others. He despises a divided heart.

I got my bible right from God.

 

[FancyNancy]

Gabriel told her she was full of grace. I know you won't except this because you hate Mary, me, anybody that doesn't agree with you

Hey, I am full of grace, also.