Catholic Heresy (for the record)

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[SIZE=+3]The Role of the Catholic Church in Yugoslavia's Holocaust
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Restitution & justice for concentration camp survivors of Serb, Jewish, and Ukrainian background and their relativesWhat are the charges against Archbishop Stepinac?
A vow of silence: Did gold stolen by Croatian fascists reach the Vatican?
What Is The Vatican Hiding? The Vatican's Complicity in Genocide in Fascist Croatia: The Suppressed Chapter of Holocaust History. by Barry Lituchy
The Real Genocide in Yugoslavia: "Independent" Croatia of 1941 Revisited by Srdja Trifkovic
Working for the Nazis: The Mufti of Jerusalem
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The Nazi collaborator Archbishop Stepinac (right) and the Vatican representative to fascist Croatia, Abbot Marcone (left). Croatia has recently renamed a village in Krajina after Stepinac. Marcone was Pavelic's confessor and Stepinac was convicted of war crimes after the war. Several members of his clergy were involved in the genocide at Jasenovac - notably the Franciscan priest, Pater Miroslav Filipovic, who was one of the commandants of the camp.

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I did a google search for the Catholic Church killing people for reading the bible. Guess what? Nothing. Not surprising. Next, i did a search for Catholic Church forbidding people to read the bible. Apparently this myth started because Churches used to lock up the bible after Mass. This was not so people couldn't read it, it was so it wouldn't be stolen. Most churches only had one handwritten bible. See how easy some of you want to believe the myths about the church
 
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mwc68 said:
I did a google search for the Catholic Church killing people for reading the bible. Guess what? Nothing. Not surprising. Next, i did a search for Catholic Church forbidding people to read the bible. Apparently this myth started because Churches used to lock up the bible after Mass. This was not so people couldn't read it, it was so it wouldn't be stolen. Most churches only had one handwritten bible. See how easy some of you want to believe the myths about the church
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yes I realise that they only persecuted John Wycliff because they didn't like the colour of his tie LOL
 
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mwc68 said:
I did a google search for the Catholic Church killing people for reading the bible. Guess what? Nothing. Not surprising. Next, i did a search for Catholic Church forbidding people to read the bible. Apparently this myth started because Churches used to lock up the bible after Mass. This was not so people couldn't read it, it was so it wouldn't be stolen. Most churches only had one handwritten bible. See how easy some of you want to believe the myths about the church
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In spite of the zeal with which the hierarchy sought to destroy it due to its alleged mistranslations and erroneous commentary, there still exist about 150 manuscripts, complete or partial, containing the translation in its revised form. From this, one may easily infer how widely diffused it was in the fifteenth century. For this reason the Wycliffites in England were often designated by their opponents as "Bible men."
 
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mwc68 said:
I did a google search for the Catholic Church killing people for reading the bible. Guess what? Nothing. Not surprising. Next, i did a search for Catholic Church forbidding people to read the bible. Apparently this myth started because Churches used to lock up the bible after Mass. This was not so people couldn't read it, it was so it wouldn't be stolen. Most churches only had one handwritten bible. See how easy some of you want to believe the myths about the church
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In my elementary school years, both my friends and my husband's friends who were catholic were NOT allowed to possess or read a bible. In those days we were all given a New Testament, and my husband gave his little catholic friend his little New Testament. He took it home and his mother ripped it up. They were not allowed to possess the bible in any form. I have spoken to catholics about that over the years and they were taught that they needed to only hear the word of God as divvied out by their church.

That is not God's intent for us! We are to know the word!

So the RCC took it upon itself to control people's lives and set itself up as authority, when God has not given the Church authority over people...but people who are Christians ARE the Church, and we have Jesus' authority. The RCC has set itself up as THE CHURCH, when there is no such entity apart from the people of God globally.
 
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mwc68 said:
I did a google search for the Catholic Church killing people for reading the bible. Guess what? Nothing. Not surprising. Next, i did a search for Catholic Church forbidding people to read the bible. Apparently this myth started because Churches used to lock up the bible after Mass. This was not so people couldn't read it, it was so it wouldn't be stolen. Most churches only had one handwritten bible. See how easy some of you want to believe the myths about the church
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The most notable Middle English Bible translation, Wycliffe's Bible (1383), based on the Vulgate, was banned by the Oxford Synod in 1408.

In the late 14th century, John Wycliffe produced the first complete English language Bible — often called Wycliffe's Bible. His New Testament was completed in 1380 and the Old Testament a few years later. It is thought that a large portion of the Old Testament was actually translated by Nicholas Hereford. Some 30 copies of this Bible survive, despite the fact that it was banned. From the time of King Richard II until the time of the English Reformation, Lollards who read Wycliffe's Bible were persecuted. Wycliffe's Bible was revised in the last years of the 14th century, perhaps by John Purvey. This edition was also banned and became even more popular than the first. Some 130 copies exist, including some belonging to the British royal family. All dated copies are dated before the ban.
 
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mwc68 said:
I did a google search for the Catholic Church killing people for reading the bible. Guess what? Nothing. Not surprising. Next, i did a search for Catholic Church forbidding people to read the bible. Apparently this myth started because Churches used to lock up the bible after Mass. This was not so people couldn't read it, it was so it wouldn't be stolen. Most churches only had one handwritten bible. See how easy some of you want to believe the myths about the church
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Throughout Christian history, there has been many attempts to keep the Bible from hands of the common man. The Catholic Church was the biggest among these, with Pope Innocent III in 1199 banning the common man from having personal access to a bible, the Council of Tourlouse in 1229 ("Canon 14. We prohibit also that the laity should be permitted to have the books of the Old or New Testament; unless anyone from motive of devotion should wish to have the Psalter or the Breviary for divine offices or the hours of the blessed Virgin; but we most strictly forbid their having any translation of these books."), the Council of Terragona of 1234, the 1408 Synod of Oxford, England, Pope Pius IV in the Index of Trent in 1559, Pope Clement XI in 1713, Pope Pius VI in 1794, Pope Pius VIII in 1829, Pope Gregory XVI in 1844, Pope Pius IX in 1866, Pope Leo XIII in 1903, 1918 Canon Law, etc all prohibit/ban bibles or the reading of them or translating into the native language.
 
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mwc68 said:
I did a google search for the Catholic Church killing people for reading the bible. Guess what? Nothing. Not surprising. Next, i did a search for Catholic Church forbidding people to read the bible. Apparently this myth started because Churches used to lock up the bible after Mass. This was not so people couldn't read it, it was so it wouldn't be stolen. Most churches only had one handwritten bible. See how easy some of you want to believe the myths about the church
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The Council of Tarragona of 1234, in its second canon, ruled that:
"No one may possess the books of the Old and New Testaments in the Romance language, and if anyone possesses them he must turn them over to the local bishop within eight days after promulgation of this decree, so that they may be burned lest, be he a cleric or a layman, he be suspected until he is cleared of all suspicion."
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-D. Lortsch, Historie de la Bible en France, 1910, p.14.
 
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mwc68 said:
I did a google search for the Catholic Church killing people for reading the bible. Guess what? Nothing. Not surprising. Next, i did a search for Catholic Church forbidding people to read the bible. Apparently this myth started because Churches used to lock up the bible after Mass. This was not so people couldn't read it, it was so it wouldn't be stolen. Most churches only had one handwritten bible. See how easy some of you want to believe the myths about the church
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In 1731 Count Leopold Anton von Firmian – Archbishop of Salzburg as well as its temporal ruler – embarked on a savage persecution of the Lutherans living in the rural regions of Salzburg. As well expelling tens of thousands of Protestant Salzburgers, the Archbishop ordered the wholesale seizure and burning of all Protestant books and Bibles.

Martin Luther's German translation of the Bible was burned in Catholic-dominated parts of Germany in 1624, by order of the Pope

In October 1526 William Tyndale's English translation of the New Testament was burned in London by Cuthbert Tunstal, Bishop of London.

Do you want more? LOL
 
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valiant said:
The Council of Tarragona of 1234, in its second canon, ruled that:
"No one may possess the books of the Old and New Testaments in the Romance language, and if anyone possesses them he must turn them over to the local bishop within eight days after promulgation of this decree, so that they may be burned lest, be he a cleric or a layman, he be suspected until he is cleared of all suspicion."
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-D. Lortsch, Historie de la Bible en France, 1910, p.14.
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I wonder why Mwc68 always denied the fact.

He call the fact lie, mean he is the liar.
 
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FancyNancy said:
In my elementary school years, both my friends and my husband's friends who were catholic were NOT allowed to possess or read a bible. In those days we were all given a New Testament, and my husband gave his little catholic friend his little New Testament. He took it home and his mother ripped it up. They were not allowed to possess the bible in any form. I have spoken to catholics about that over the years and they were taught that they needed to only hear the word of God as divvied out by their church.

That is not God's intent for us! We are to know the word!

So the RCC took it upon itself to control people's lives and set itself up as authority, when God has not given the Church authority over people...but people who are Christians ARE the Church, and we have Jesus' authority. The RCC has set itself up as THE CHURCH, when there is no such entity apart from the people of God globally.
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I'm sorry Nancy, my grandmother had a family bible when she was a little girl and she still has it! I don't know where ya'll get this from. We always had a family bible in my house as a kid.I was encouraged to read the bible. I have been Catholic my whole life and just don't experience this stuff ya'll say the Church does
 
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Ok, this is getting ridiculous again! I know good and well that is not happenning today
 
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1 John 1:7
[SUP]7 [/SUP] But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin.

When we walk in the Light we have fellowship with Jesus Christ AND His Blood cleanses us from ALL sin.

Yes mwc68 we are to confess our sins to Jesus Christ so He can forgive us. BUT just by walking in the Light with Him His Blood cleanses us of all our sins. Therefore if we die while walking in the Light even though we have sinned we will enter into Heaven because He has cleansed us of all our sins by His Blood.

Now mwc68 LISTEN CAREFULLY. If you have sinned and are walking in the Light with Jesus Christ that sin is forgiven by His Blood and we will still enter into Heaven even if you have not confessed that sin to God.

Now mwc68 with you not walking in the Light with Jesus Christ your sins cannot be cleansed by His Blood and if you die you will enter into the Lake of Fire mwc68.

Its not what you want the Truth to be mwc68 that matters, its what God says is the Truth that matters.

All you do mwc68 is teach the Roman Catholic Church and Mary are greater than God by reciting the lies of the Roman Catholic Church. As long as you keep putting down God and elevate the Roman Catholic Church and Mary above God you will encounter people who will hate you for this.

The hate from other people you are feeling mwc68, you have caused this by your own mouth. People do not like it when Roman Catholics attack God and elevate Mary above God.
 
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Mwc68 is your typical Roman Catholic. Bashing God and promoting Mary as God.

Mwc68 has no desire to follow the True God Jesus Christ. He has his God Mary.

No matter how much proof you show mwc68 he will never accept it because after all Mary is greater than God and God has to do what Mary and the Roman Catholic Church demands!

Mwc68 is nothing more than a fool doing the bidding of the Pope in trying to destroy God and every good thing connected with God.

He has you all fooled, even you Ken. Mwc68 has never accepted Salvation and will never accept it because in his delusional mind only the Roman Catholic Church has ALL the Truth and God has none!

My advice is ignore mwc68, let him rot in Hell along with his Mary. This what he wants and this is what he deserves. He's a child of Satan and will never change his ways. He will do his best to bring down everything good from God.

God tells us not to cast our pearls before swine.

Matthew 7:6
[SUP]6 [/SUP] Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces.

This is what the Roman Catholic Church does when shown the Truth in the Bible.
 
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I'm sorry Nancy, my grandmother had a family bible when she was a little girl and she still has it! I don't know where ya'll get this from. We always had a family bible in my house as a kid.I was encouraged to read the bible. I have been Catholic my whole life and just don't experience this stuff ya'll say the Church does
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You have history of lie brother.

You said you google and catholic never forbid it member to read the bible.

other search google found it was.

You said inquisition done by Spanish only, not Vatican, and it is not true.

You said Pope never call for new world order.

And thousand of article wrote Pope speech about NWO.

I don't know why you cover up the devil agenda, while bible said to exposed it.
 
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Mwc68 is your typical Roman Catholic. Bashing God and promoting Mary as God.

Mwc68 has no desire to follow the True God Jesus Christ. He has his God Mary.

No matter how much proof you show mwc68 he will never accept it because after all Mary is greater than God and God has to do what Mary and the Roman Catholic Church demands!

Mwc68 is nothing more than a fool doing the bidding of the Pope in trying to destroy God and every good thing connected with God.

He has you all fooled, even you Ken. Mwc68 has never accepted Salvation and will never accept it because in his delusional mind only the Roman Catholic Church has ALL the Truth and God has none!

My advice is ignore mwc68, let him rot in Hell along with his Mary. This what he wants and this is what he deserves. He's a child of Satan and will never change his ways. He will do his best to bring down everything good from God.

God tells us not to cast our pearls before swine.

Matthew 7:6
[SUP]6 [/SUP] Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces.

This is what the Roman Catholic Church does when shown the Truth in the Bible.
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This is just irresponsible !!no matter how much I disagree with you, i would never say you are following satan! Just sad
 
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MikeHenderson said:
Mwc68 is your typical Roman Catholic. Bashing God and promoting Mary as God.

Mwc68 has no desire to follow the True God Jesus Christ. He has his God Mary.

No matter how much proof you show mwc68 he will never accept it because after all Mary is greater than God and God has to do what Mary and the Roman Catholic Church demands!

Mwc68 is nothing more than a fool doing the bidding of the Pope in trying to destroy God and every good thing connected with God.

He has you all fooled, even you Ken. Mwc68 has never accepted Salvation and will never accept it because in his delusional mind only the Roman Catholic Church has ALL the Truth and God has none!

My advice is ignore mwc68, let him rot in Hell along with his Mary. This what he wants and this is what he deserves. He's a child of Satan and will never change his ways. He will do his best to bring down everything good from God.

God tells us not to cast our pearls before swine.

Matthew 7:6
[SUP]6 [/SUP] Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces.

This is what the Roman Catholic Church does when shown the Truth in the Bible.
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Its amazing how you protestants think you can read minds! I always thought t
hat was an occult thing. I don't play with the occult, but I guess its ok for you!
 
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FancyNancy said:
When we come to faith, we are forgiven of all our sin---past, present and future !
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FanTASTIC !

I made a "Decision for Christ" when I was 13. Totally, absolutely sincere and certain.
Repented, born again, 'washed by the blood of the Lamb', definitely "came to the faith" etc etc etc etc.

So now, according to Nancy the Infallible, I can commit murder and mayhem, steal, lie, blaspheme and live a life of crime and debauchery ....... and all wili be well !
 
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Their reference continually to Mary the mother of G-d.
If the Father of God is God then the mother of G-d (?) is god........
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I have tried valiantly to find some logic in that train of thought. Without success.

In one sense, I agree with you. To me, Mary was not the 'mother of God'.

However, I presume that you believe she was the mother of Yeshua and that Yeshua was God,
How then would she not be the Mother of God ?

Was Yeshua God ? Was Mary Yeshua's mother ?
 
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I have tried valiantly to find some logic in that train of thought. Without success.

In one sense, I agree with you. To me, Mary was not the 'mother of God'.

However, I presume that you believe she was the mother of Yeshua and that Yeshua was God,
How then would she not be the Mother of God ?

Was Yeshua God ? Was Mary Yeshua's mother ?
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Jesus is God, God is Mary creator. Jesus exist before Mary, How then Mary mother of God. Did your mother exist before you?
 
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