Catholic Heresy (for the record)

[Budman]

This makes no sense at all

"The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit." (1 Corinthians 2:14)

Catholics don't believe the blood of Jesus purges us from all sin - past, present, and future. They believe His sacrifice wasn't enough, and must instead keep all of the sacraments to inherit eternal life.

 

[mwc68]

"The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit." (1 Corinthians 2:14)

Catholics don't believe the blood of Jesus purges us from all sin - past, present, and future. They believe His sacrifice wasn't enough, and must instead keep all of the sacraments to inherit eternal life.

The reason it makes no sense is, you think there are a couple of Jesus and not just one.

 

[blue_ladybug]

Could someone please point out the love in these posts? Can't seem to find it

We are TRYING to show you love by pointing out that Catholicism is vastly different from Christianity. Jesus' church is NOT an actual church or building. It is the body of believers.

Catholics believe that a phantom took Jesus' place on the cross. Christians believe that Jesus DID die on the cross.
Catholics believe Mary can hear, answer and intercede their prayers. Christians believe that ONLY JESUS can hear and intercede on our prayers. Catholics say the rosary and pray to Mary. Christians pray ONLY to Jesus.

The Catholic church is a false, pagan religion. ONLY CHRISTIANITY is the one true religion. You seem to have a hard time accepting that.

 

[Mec99]

Actually mwc68 its you who are showing no Love toward God by saying what God says in the Scriptures is just our opinion. This shows you have no Love for the Truth from God. To you everything in the Scriptures is a joke to you.

How can you say you have accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and still walk in darkness? How can you say you are a Christian when you call God a liar by saying its just our opinion and not the Truth from God?

No, you are not a Christian mwc68. I see no Love in you for the truth God has given to the World. All i see in you is contempt for the Truth in the Scriptures from God. God says everybody is a sinner, but yet you have such contempt for God and His Truths that you call God a liar and teach that Mary was without sin.

This is how much contempt you have for God that you teach Mary was without sin!

You may think you are a True Christian mwc68 but you are not. You are a wolf in sheep clothing pretending and deceiving yourself into believing you are a Child of God.

Its Mary and the Roman Catholic Church that is your God mwc68. I see no Love for God in your answers, only contempt for those who truly are True Christians who follow Jesus as their Lord and Savior. Look at Pope Francis and what he teaches. Even Pope Francis is not a Child of God and Pope Francis will spend Eternity in the Lake of Fire with Satan and his angels.

If you really want to follow Jesus Christ and enter into Heaven, you need to leave the Roman Catholic Church and turn your back on their teachings. You will never find Salvation in the RCC today. The only way you will find Salvation is outside of the Roman Catholic Church.

 

[Budman]

The reason it makes no sense is, you think there are a couple of Jesus and not just one.

*sigh*

No.

The Jesus the Catholic Church proposes doesn't exist, because they believe the sacrifice of "their" Jesus wasn't enough to save us to the uttermost.

 

[Mec99]

Romans 3:9-12
[SUP]9 [/SUP]For we have previously charged both Jews and Greeks that they are all under sin.
[SUP]10 [/SUP] As it is written: "There is none righteous, no, not one;
[SUP]11 [/SUP] There is none who understands; There is none who seeks after God.
[SUP]12 [/SUP] They have all turned aside; They have together become unprofitable; There is none who does good, no, not one."
Romans 3:23
[SUP]23 [/SUP] for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God

Mary is under sin. Mary was a sinner.

This is a fact in the Scriptures, not an opinion. The word ALL applies to Mary, the words "have sinned" also apply to Mary.

To say this is just our opinion shows the contempt you have for God and His Scriptures that He gave us. Having contempt for God and His Truths proves you are not a Child of God.

 

[Mec99]

Matthew 4:10
[SUP]10 [/SUP] Then Jesus said to him, "Away with you, Satan! For it is written, 'You shall worship the LORD your God, and Him only you shall serve.' "


We are to ONLY Worship God and ONLY serve God mwc68!

By worshiping and serving Mary you have called God a liar.

 

[Mec99]

The Theology of the RCC teaches that Mary is greater because after all it was by Mary herself by being without sin that keep Jesus free from sin. The Catholics see God as an old feeble man unable to do anything without the help of their God Mary.

 

[Budman]

Romans 3:9-12
[SUP]9 [/SUP]For we have previously charged both Jews and Greeks that they are all under sin.
[SUP]10 [/SUP] As it is written: "There is none righteous, no, not one;
[SUP]11 [/SUP] There is none who understands; There is none who seeks after God.
[SUP]12 [/SUP] They have all turned aside; They have together become unprofitable; There is none who does good, no, not one."
Romans 3:23
[SUP]23 [/SUP] for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God

Mary is under sin. Mary was a sinner.

This is a fact in the Scriptures, not an opinion. The word ALL applies to Mary, the words "have sinned" also apply to Mary.

To say this is just our opinion shows the contempt you have for God and His Scriptures that He gave us. Having contempt for God and His Truths proves you are not a Child of God.

True. If Mary was indeed without sin, she never would have taken her (dove) offering to the Temple for her sins. (See Leviticus 12:6-8, and Luke 2:22-24). Nor would she have called Jesus her "savior" as she did. Sinless people don't need a savior.

 

[mwc68]

Yall basically have a Marian devotion here because that is ALL yall talk about! Geeesh

 

[blue_ladybug]

Yall basically have a Marian devotion here because that is ALL yall talk about! Geeesh

They talk about her because they are trying to show you that praying to Mary is wrong. Believing that she hears you is wrong. Believing that she prays for you and intercedes for you is wrong.

That's what these people are trying to show you, but you refuse to believe the truth. I truly fear for your soul if you keep believing the lies that the RCC has brain washed you with.

 

[mwc68]

They talk about her because they are trying to show you that praying to Mary is wrong. Believing that she hears you is wrong. Believing that she prays for you and intercedes for you is wrong.

That's what these people are trying to show you, but you refuse to believe the truth. I truly fear for your soul if you keep believing the lies that the RCC has brain washed you with.

And I'm sorry but we just disagree on this and I'm fine with that. Its the accusations that are dreadful

 

[MikeHenderson]

This is what you said a week ago mwc68, "Why is it so hard to believe that God, who can do anything, kept Mary sinless? Why are you limiting God and putting conditions on what he can and can't do?".

The reason we do not accept your belief that Mary was sinless is because God has clearly stated in His Scriptures that ALL have sinned and ALL includes Mary.

Its you mwc68 who has a Marian devotion. Its you mwc68 who is saying Mary was sinless, not God. Its you mwc68 who see's nothing wrong with Worshiping Mary as your God. Its you mwc68 who have made Mary your God and its you who will not be allowed to enter into Heaven.

You do not realize that you have put your Soul in danger of Hell fire for all Eternity by Worshiping Mary as your God. Its you mwc68 who are causing the strife in this chat room with your demonic teachings from the Catholic Church.

You will never listen to God, you will never accept the Truth from God, and you will never stop Worshiping Mary as your God. So why are you here? You cannot deceive us, we all see straight through you and your lies from the Corrupted Catholic Church.

If you want to learn the Truth and are willing to listen to the Truth from God then you are welcomed here. But if all you want to do is cause strife in the Body of Believers in Christ then do us all a favor and leave and never come back.

Mark 6:10-11
[SUP]10 [/SUP] Also He said to them, "In whatever place you enter a house, stay there till you depart from that place.
[SUP]11 [/SUP] And whoever will not receive you nor hear you, when you depart from there, shake off the dust under your feet as a testimony against them. Assuredly, I say to you, it will be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrah in the day of judgment than for that city!"

Even Jesus told us depart from those who refuse to listen to the Gospel of Salvation from God.

May God have Mercy on your Soul mwc68.

 

[Jackson123]

Could someone please point out the love in these posts? Can't seem to find it

It is love to warn you that your leader against the will of the Lord by bow before Mary graven image.

Why you follow the religion which the leader openly bow before Mary statue.

What your leader did is disrespect Mary and respect satan.

He not really worship Mary but satan.

Real Mary will not teach that if you die wear scapular will not go to hell.

Only if you trust in Jesus will not go to hell.

To replace Jesus with scapular is Satanic. It is demon and not real Mary.

Which is you choice? Follow the Lord and left this satanic worshiper or follow satanic worshiper

 

[mwc68]

This is what you said a week ago mwc68, "Why is it so hard to believe that God, who can do anything, kept Mary sinless? Why are you limiting God and putting conditions on what he can and can't do?".

The reason we do not accept your belief that Mary was sinless is because God has clearly stated in His Scriptures that ALL have sinned and ALL includes Mary.

Its you mwc68 who has a Marian devotion. Its you mwc68 who is saying Mary was sinless, not God. Its you mwc68 who see's nothing wrong with Worshiping Mary as your God. Its you mwc68 who have made Mary your God and its you who will not be allowed to enter into Heaven.

You do not realize that you have put your Soul in danger of Hell fire for all Eternity by Worshiping Mary as your God. Its you mwc68 who are causing the strife in this chat room with your demonic teachings from the Catholic Church.

You will never listen to God, you will never accept the Truth from God, and you will never stop Worshiping Mary as your God. So why are you here? You cannot deceive us, we all see straight through you and your lies from the Corrupted Catholic Church.

If you want to learn the Truth and are willing to listen to the Truth from God then you are welcomed here. But if all you want to do is cause strife in the Body of Believers in Christ then do us all a favor and leave and never come back.

Mark 6:10-11
[SUP]10 [/SUP] Also He said to them, "In whatever place you enter a house, stay there till you depart from that place.
[SUP]11 [/SUP] And whoever will not receive you nor hear you, when you depart from there, shake off the dust under your feet as a testimony against them. Assuredly, I say to you, it will be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrah in the day of judgment than for that city!"

Even Jesus told us depart from those who refuse to listen to the Gospel of Salvation from God.

May God have Mercy on your Soul mwc68.

Oh good grief! Are you for real?? Who made you a Mod? Your "truth" is not the only truth. It just happens to be so to you

 

[KenAllan]

Its interesting that the reason mwc68 does not know the Truth in the Scriptures is because the Catholic Church has forbidden the Catholics to read and study the Scriptures.

In fact in the 1500's people were put to death by the Roman Catholic Church just for reading the Bible. Ever since the Roman Catholic Church was formed the Catholic Church has done everything it can to prevent the Catholics from studying the Scriptures.

This is what God says about the Scriptures.

Psalm 119:105
[SUP]105 [/SUP] Your word is a lamp to my feet And a light to my path.

John 8:31-32
[SUP]31 [/SUP] Then Jesus said to those Jews who believed Him, "If you abide in My word, you are My disciples indeed.
[SUP]32 [/SUP] And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free."

1 John 2:26-27
[SUP]26 [/SUP] These things I have written to you concerning those who try to deceive you.
[SUP]27 [/SUP] But the anointing which you have received from Him abides in you, and you do not need that anyone teach you; but as the same anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is true, and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you will abide in Him.

The Scriptures are a lamp to our feet. If we abide in His Word the Scriptures we WILL know the Truth. When we receive the Holy Spirit He will teach us all the Truths in the Scriptures. This is why the Roman Catholic Church put people to death just for reading the Scriptures.

Today the Roman Catholic Church allows the Catholics to read the Bible but they are NOT allowed to study the Bible under penalty of death. According to the Roman Catholic Church the Catholic Church is the only one allowed to interpret the Scriptures.

See how the Roman Catholic Church controls the Catholics to prevent them from learning the Truth from God.

This is why mwc68 hates the Scriptures because they do not has his truths in them. Mwc68 is a spokesperson for the Roman Catholic Church and he is trying his best here to deceive us True Christians into being deceived by the lies of the Catholic Church.

There is ONLY one Truth and that is the Truth from God, not the lies from the Catholic Church.

Mwc68 you have no Truth in you, all you have is the lies from the Roman Catholic Church. Your truth is from Satan not from God. You have no Truth mwc68 as long as you do the will of the Catholic Church and not the Will of God the Father.

 

[KenAllan]

Your truth mwc68 is from the pit of Hell. Your truth is used to deceive others into following the Roman Catholic Church as their God. As long as you keep attacking the Word of God mwc68 you will not be allowed into Heaven.

You have been deceived mwc68 and you are too blind to see that you have been blinded by the Catholic Church.

Its so sad that the Roman Catholic Church means more to you than following God into Heaven.

 

[mwc68]

Its interesting that the reason mwc68 does not know the Truth in the Scriptures is because the Catholic Church has forbidden the Catholics to read and study the Scriptures.

In fact in the 1500's people were put to death by the Roman Catholic Church just for reading the Bible. Ever since the Roman Catholic Church was formed the Catholic Church has done everything it can to prevent the Catholics from studying the Scriptures.

This is what God says about the Scriptures.

Psalm 119:105
[SUP]105 [/SUP] Your word is a lamp to my feet And a light to my path.

John 8:31-32
[SUP]31 [/SUP] Then Jesus said to those Jews who believed Him, "If you abide in My word, you are My disciples indeed.
[SUP]32 [/SUP] And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free."

1 John 2:26-27
[SUP]26 [/SUP] These things I have written to you concerning those who try to deceive you.
[SUP]27 [/SUP] But the anointing which you have received from Him abides in you, and you do not need that anyone teach you; but as the same anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is true, and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you will abide in Him.

The Scriptures are a lamp to our feet. If we abide in His Word the Scriptures we WILL know the Truth. When we receive the Holy Spirit He will teach us all the Truths in the Scriptures. This is why the Roman Catholic Church put people to death just for reading the Scriptures.

Today the Roman Catholic Church allows the Catholics to read the Bible but they are NOT allowed to study the Bible under penalty of death. According to the Roman Catholic Church the Catholic Church is the only one allowed to interpret the Scriptures.

See how the Roman Catholic Church controls the Catholics to prevent them from learning the Truth from God.

This is why mwc68 hates the Scriptures because they do not has his truths in them. Mwc68 is a spokesperson for the Roman Catholic Church and he is trying his best here to deceive us True Christians into being deceived by the lies of the Catholic Church.

There is ONLY one Truth and that is the Truth from God, not the lies from the Catholic Church.

Mwc68 you have no Truth in you, all you have is the lies from the Roman Catholic Church. Your truth is from Satan not from God. You have no Truth mwc68 as long as you do the will of the Catholic Church and not the Will of God the Father.

So I am under penalty of death not to study the scriptures? You can't be serious! Where do you get this crap?I've heard some ignorant stuff, but wow!!!!

 

[blue_ladybug]

Y'all are just beating a dead horse here. Mcw is never going to believe the truth of God, that ALL including Mary, have sinned. He's going to keep believing the lie and practices of the RCC. You cannot be a christian and follow satan. Nor can you claim to love and worship Jesus, yet refuse to stop praying to Mary. It is my fervent hope that the mods close this thread because it is this one thread that has caused so much strife and contention in this forum. No wonder newbies are scared to come in here.. Even the regulars are afraid to come in here, also.. :/

Shake the dust off your feet because he is an unbeliever who claims to be a christian, yet still fervently defends the RCC and believes their lies. He serves the devil as long as he believes the RCC. He does NOT serve Jesus as long as he believes that Mary can hear prayers and intercede for us. Only JESUS can do that..

 

[mwc68]

So I am under penalty of death not to study the scriptures? You can't be serious! Where do you get this crap?I've heard some ignorant stuff, but wow!!!!

Y'all are just beating a dead horse here. Mcw is never going to believe the truth of God, that ALL including Mary, have sinned. He's going to keep believing the lie and practices of the RCC. You cannot be a christian and follow satan. Nor can you claim to love and worship Jesus, yet refuse to stop praying to Mary. It is my fervent hope that the mods close this thread because it is this one thread that has caused so much strife and contention in this forum. No wonder newbies are scared to come in here.. Even the regulars are afraid to come in here, also.. :/

Shake the dust off your feet because he is an unbeliever who claims to be a christian, yet still fervently defends the RCC and believes their lies. He serves the devil as long as he believes the RCC. He does NOT serve Jesus as long as he believes that Mary can hear prayers and intercede for us. Only JESUS can do that..

Nicely judgemental of you since you really have no idea what my walk is like. I won't write you off.