Catholic Heresy (for the record)

[Budman]

But you have no prob with somebody manufacturing a quote from Pope Francis and spreading it as truth? Just as long as they aren't Catholic, right?

When the Pope made the claim that Muslims and Christians worship the same God, he is saying then, that we are brothers.

 

[mwc68]

They are not our brothers in any Christian sense. They are spiritually dead.

You (and your Popes) need to stop equating light with darkness.

So when you go to a convenient store, do you just look down your nose at the clerk? Do you have a sense of superiority? Do you even frequent a store that is owned by Muslims? Where are Muslims in comparison to Catholics on your hate list?

 

[Budman]

You and your bible thumpers need to realize you don't know everything. Is not my neighor my brother also?

"Bible thumpers" ?

You just made my point about how much respect Catholics show the Bible.

Oh, and I guess you missed where I said they are not our brothers in any spiritual Christian sense. They are spiritually DEAD. They are not our brothers in the religious sense the Pope was claiming.

 

[mwc68]

When the Pope made the claim that Muslims and Christians worship the same God, he is saying then, that we are brothers.

You just can't make yourself say Mec98 is wrong for misquoting Pope Francis. I know, anyone who isn't Catholic can do whatever they want. True Christians like Mec99 would never lie! LOL!!!that's right, you got OSAS for that.

 

[Mec99]

Not if your neighbor is out to kill people for accepting Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior!

Muslims cannot be our Brothers because they reject Jesus Christ completely!

Oh, so now the Truth comes out mwc68. You called us Bible Thumpers like its a bad thing to believe in the Word of God for our Salvation! The Truth be told mwc68 your comment on bible thumpers proves you are not a Child of God.

I see the hate in your words towards the Holy Scriptures from God! No wonder you defend the corrupted Roman Catholic Church so much!

I guess to you the Scriptures from God are a joke mwc68. I see you have no respect for what God has given us to read and study. I believe this is why you refuse the Truth in the Scriptures. To you the Bible is just one big joke!

 

[mwc68]

"Bible thumpers" ?

You just made my point about how much respect Catholics show the Bible.

Oh, and I guess you missed where I said they are not our brothers in any spiritual Christian sense. They are spiritually DEAD. They are not our brothers in the religious sense the Pope was claiming.

Thumpers worship the book, not the God

 

[Mec99]

And Catholics worship Mary, not God!

 

[mwc68]

Not if your neighbor is out to kill people for accepting Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior!

Muslims cannot be our Brothers because they reject Jesus Christ completely!

Oh, so now the Truth comes out mwc68. You called us Bible Thumpers like its a bad thing to believe in the Word of God for our Salvation! The Truth be told mwc68 your comment on bible thumpers proves you are not a Child of God.

I see the hate in your words towards the Holy Scriptures from God! No wonder you defend the corrupted Roman Catholic Church so much!

I guess to you the Scriptures from God are a joke mwc68. I see you have no respect for what God has given us to read and study. I believe this is why you refuse the Truth in the Scriptures. To you the Bible is just one big joke!

Please post one quote from any thread where I said the scriptures are a joke. I just plainly pointed out how you make stuff up like you are doing now. And you are upset I caught you in a blatant lie. And yeah, i do believe some of you have an unhealthy worship of ink and paper. So did Charles Manson, Jim Jones , David. Koresh......

 

[Jackson123]

You are pitting your understanding against the understanding of Catholics. Every understanding needs to wait until the perfect understanding, the perfect knowledge comes. The people at the time of Christ also thought they knew the Scriptures perfectly and yet they ended up crucifying their Messiah! Let us wait. Meanwhile, let us love one another. Theological differences should not get in the way of people loving each other. If you are certain about a truth, express it wisely. If it is accepted, then it has achieved its purpose. If not, it should not be grounds for fighting and causing more divisions.

You have pointed out the word LOVE in 1 Corinthians 13. Why not also point out knowledge, and accept that knowledge as we have it, is partial.

Do you accept that your knowledge is partial?What message does 1 Corinthians 13 give you about KNOWLEDGE?

I am not agree that we need perfect knowledge to understand something simple.

For example, I believe Jesus is the only savior. I don't have perfect knowledge but I believe it the truth Not bow before graven image. is simple, you don't need to be professor of theology or rocket science to understand that word.

Jesus is the only savior. It mean He is the only person capable to free us from hell. it is simple.

If one pretend to be Mary said wear scapular when you die will free you from hell. it is Lie it is not inline with bible teaching.

I am not force people to believe like I believe, but I warn people.

If need perfect knowledge to warn people, than when we preach the Gospel. No body perfect not even apostle.

Say Muslim. we don't have perfect knowledge than we can spread the gospel to Muslim.

You criticized every missionary with you posting brother.

 

[Mec99]

And i also believe you mwc68 have an unhealthy Worship of Mary as your God!

 

[Jackson123]

I agree so much, but also understand their view as well. To them we are just attacking their truth. To most truth is subjective to the person anyway. It's no different than the atheist, us Christians challenge their whole worldview and what they perceive as truth. Same with any group or false religion. The thing is they think they have a right to believe whatever they want and so does everyone else, and “who are we to tell anyone what to believe?”, I know I thought the same way as a professing Christian. They think like "I have my beliefs and you have yours, can't we just let each other alone about it?". It's the assumption that all beliefs are equal, and is the biggest reason most the world hates Jesus so much, and are more tolerant of every other religion in the world. A great example is the “peaceful” religion of Islam and the way so many call for the acceptance and toleration of it while bashing Christians and calling them terrorist for opposing gay marriage in a truly peaceful manner. What they don't understand is how when the Holy Spirit indwells you it reveals the TRUTH of God and His only son Jesus. It lets us KNOW that He is real and that Jesus Christ is the only way to be reconciled to Him.

Most see Christianity as a blind belief we accept despite all the facts to the contrary, they just don’t understand that Christianity is the ONLY belief system that doesn’t require blind belief. I know this because I thought the same way as a “Christian”, I thought Jesus was a great role model of how we should behave, and Christianity was a set of basic rules that if followed would result in a decent life. When you don’t KNOW God is real and you haven’t been regenerated by His undeniable and powerfully amazing grace, then you just think that everyone has a right to believe whatever they want, and would never be arrogant enough to say what “someone else” believes is false. It baffles them why those of us that have been shown the ultimate truth of God would say they are wrong, and they see it as us being hateful, bigoted, and unfair. The thing is once you have this Spirit it WILL lead you to all truth, and when you see others following a false trail you want to warn them, not in hate at all, even though emotions can run high when speaking on this subject, but in love because you know the God that saved you wants to save everyone else as well. It’s just a hard thing to do no matter who you’re talking to.

I agree, every body have they own believe. But if one said believe in the bible, and follow a Pope that violate the bible by bow before graven image, as a loving christian I try to warn them. Not to force just warn with love.

 

[jsr1221]

Please post one quote from any thread where I said the scriptures are a joke. I just plainly pointed out how you make stuff up like you are doing now. And you are upset I caught you in a blatant lie. And yeah, i do believe some of you have an unhealthy worship of ink and paper. So did Charles Manson, Jim Jones , David. Koresh......

That ink and paper is God's Word, though. And dude .. How long are you gonna keep this up? You're making yourself look immature on this thread, and so is everyone else.. Just stop already. You're on a Christian site, first of all. And second, think of how much you can get accomplished if you don't get in continuous arguments of the safe stuff with the same people. Or do you enjoy doing what you're doing right now? Cause they say insanity is doing the same thing over and over while expecting a different result.

 

[Jackson123]

Thumpers worship the book, not the God

No body worship the book.

Trust in the word of God is not worship book, it is worship God.
Otherwise worship Pope is believe what Pope teach and accept/agree when he violate the word by bow before graven image.

 

[Budman]

You just can't make yourself say Mec98 is wrong for misquoting Pope Francis. I know, anyone who isn't Catholic can do whatever they want. True Christians like Mec99 would never lie! LOL!!!that's right, you got OSAS for that.

My goodness - you are really losing it.

 

[Budman]

Thumpers worship the book, not the God

Stop disrespecting God's Word.

 

[Budman]

And yeah, i do believe some of you have an unhealthy worship of ink and paper. So did Charles Manson, Jim Jones , David. Koresh......

You actually equate those who revere God's Holy Word with Manson, Jones, and Koresh????

I am literally astounded!

Dear God, please help this man - in Jesus name!!!

 

[Mec99]

Muslims may be our neighbors, but they are not our Brothers in Christ! Muslims may live next to us, but until they accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior they are NOT our Brothers in Christ!

What Pope Francis has done is a shame on the Roman Catholic Church!

 

[mwc68]

That ink and paper is God's Word, though. And dude .. How long are you gonna keep this up? You're making yourself look immature on this thread, and so is everyone else.. Just stop already. You're on a Christian site, first of all. And second, think of how much you can get accomplished if you don't get in continuous arguments of the safe stuff with the same people. Or do you enjoy doing what you're doing right now? Cause they say insanity is doing the same thing over and over while expecting a different result.

Don't like it? Don't read it. That's a joke this is a Christian site just from this thread alone

 

[KennethC]

Don't like it? Don't read it. That's a joke this is a Christian site just from this thread alone

I have one question for you:

If the bible says do not jump off a cliff, but the Pope tells you to jump, who would you listen to ???

 

[mwc68]

Muslims may be our neighbors, but they are not our Brothers in Christ! Muslims may live next to us, but until they accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior they are NOT our Brothers in Christ!

What Pope Francis has done is a shame on the Roman Catholic Church!

Pope Francis NEVER said they were brothers in Christ!