Catholic Heresy (for the record)

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We must understand that so many in the Catholic Church are ignorant of what is truth concerning Jesus as our Redeemer. This is how they were brought up. Many are living up to the light that they know and do u think God would condemn these people? God says, and other sheep I have that are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice, and there shall be one fold, and one Shepard. John 10:16.

God has not given up on these people as he has not given up on many Christians in the Protestant Churches who claim to love and live for God. Then Peter opened his mouth and said, of a truth I perceive that God is not respecter of persons. Acts 10:34.
God ask us to pray for them as well as ourselves. He says the first will be last and the last will be first. For many be called, but few are chosen. Matthew 20:16

No Mary was not infallible and no we can't be saved by a sinner
. God says, all have sinned and come short of His glory. Romans 3:23. Why God chose to use a sinner to bring about the birth of Jesus is explained that we may know that Him being Divine and Human can identify with the temptations of sin..but yet He sinned not because He relied and lived for God from which came His help. Also remember He said, He did nothing apart from His Father in Heaven.

And no, there was no copulation between Mary and Joseph until after the birth of Christ. Jesus was bore of the Holy Spirit which humanity on this planet will never comprehend and its not for us to comprehend. The things that God has unto Himself, belongs only to Him and the things He has given us, belong to us. So we shouldn't speculate about His birth, just quote what the Scriptures say just as Jesus did when He was assailed by Satan. Its only through Scripture that they will come to know the truth.

God has never put any human being in charge of His kingdom.

A sinner can't save another sinner by their death. Only the Perfect Lamb of God which is Jesus Christ The Righteous can only save humanity.

Yes, Catholicism is of the devil. It takes God out of the equation of Creator, Sacrificial Lamb, Counselor, and Redeemer.
Lucifer has always sought to be worshiped above His Creator and he still seeks the same thing, using the Catholic Church/Rome as his catalyst. Can a Ethiopian change the color of his skin, can a leopard change his spots?, then may ye also do good who are accustomed to do evil. Jeremiah 13:23
 
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I have NO Idols in my life. Can the Catholics say the same? No, they cannot.
 
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Its interesting that if a True Christian points out the false Doctrines in the Catholic Church that some how this means that person hates Catholics.

Actually its the Catholics who hate God and His Truths and hates the True Christian who points out the False doctrines to them.

Its the Catholics who hate, not us and not me.

If you do not like the Truth from God zzz98 that's your problem not mine and telling you that these false doctrines will keep you out of Heaven is not hating you.

But then you Catholics do try to deflect the light shining on you to claim we must hate you to bring you the Truth. If we really hated the Catholics do you really think we would want you to enter into Heaven with us?

No matter what you say zzz98, it boils down to you Catholics hating the Truths from God and you hating us True Christians for bring you the Truth from God.

In the end its you Catholics who are doing the hating, not us True Christians.

So my advice is reject Mary, accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior and you too can enter into Heaven with us True Christians.
 
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Its interesting that if a True Christian points out the false Doctrines in the Catholic Church that some how this means that person hates Catholics.

Actually its the Catholics who hate God and His Truths and hates the True Christian who points out the False doctrines to them.

Its the Catholics who hate, not us and not me.

If you do not like the Truth from God zzz98 that's your problem not mine and telling you that these false doctrines will keep you out of Heaven is not hating you.

But then you Catholics do try to deflect the light shining on you to claim we must hate you to bring you the Truth. If we really hated the Catholics do you really think we would want you to enter into Heaven with us?

No matter what you say zzz98, it boils down to you Catholics hating the Truths from God and you hating us True Christians for bring you the Truth from God.

In the end its you Catholics who are doing the hating, not us True Christians.

So my advice is reject Mary, accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior and you too can enter into Heaven with us True Christians.
hatefilled post. Why do you deny you hate us when you prove it with every post?
 
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Comparing a person's faith to a garbage can is just wrong. And you claim there is no hatred?
 
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Everyday in the Marketplace Paul brought the Truth from God to the people. So are you saying that Paul hated these people because he reasoned the Scriptures with them daily?

Acts 17:17
[SUP]17 [/SUP] So he reasoned in the synagogue with the Jews and the devout persons, and in the marketplace every day with those who happened to be there.

He brought the Gospel of Salvation to the Jews, the devote persons and everyone else daily. So by your reasoning zzz98 Paul must have hated these people because he brought the Gospel of Salvation to them.

Like Ken said and i believe its you Catholics who are doing the hating, not us.

I believe the real reason you claim we hate you is because Satan also hates the Truth from God and you are doing the will of Satan.

If anything its the Catholics who have shown a hate for the Truth from God. You must hate God zzz98 to claim Mary was without sin.

Romans 3:10
[SUP]10 [/SUP] as it is written, " THERE IS NONE RIGHTEOUS, NOT EVEN ONE

If NO one is Righteous, not even one, then Mary was never Righteous. If Mary was never Righteous then Mary was born a sinner.

Only God is Righteous.

Romans 3:23
[SUP]23 [/SUP] for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God

ALL have sinned and ALL includes Mary.

So are you saying zzz98 because we bring you the Truth that Mary was born a sinner that some how we are hating you by doing this?

I believe you are saying this because Satan hates the Truth from God.
 
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Everyday in the Marketplace Paul brought the Truth from God to the people. So are you saying that Paul hated these people because he reasoned the Scriptures with them daily?

Acts 17:17
[SUP]17 [/SUP] So he reasoned in the synagogue with the Jews and the devout persons, and in the marketplace every day with those who happened to be there.

He brought the Gospel of Salvation to the Jews, the devote persons and everyone else daily. So by your reasoning zzz98 Paul must have hated these people because he brought the Gospel of Salvation to them.

Like Ken said and i believe its you Catholics who are doing the hating, not us.

I believe the real reason you claim we hate you is because Satan also hates the Truth from God and you are doing the will of Satan.

If anything its the Catholics who have shown a hate for the Truth from God. You must hate God zzz98 to claim Mary was without sin.

Romans 3:10
[SUP]10 [/SUP] as it is written, " THERE IS NONE RIGHTEOUS, NOT EVEN ONE

If NO one is Righteous, not even one, then Mary was never Righteous.

Only God is Righteous.

Romans 3:23
[SUP]23 [/SUP] for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God

ALL have sinned and ALL includes Mary.

So are you saying zzz98 because we bring you the Truth that Mary was born a sinner that some how we are hating you by doing this?

I believe you are saying this because Satan hates the Truth from God.
I already know you are full of hate and don't know the difference
 
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There you go again zzz98, hating the Truth from God and calling all those who oppose Satan and his lies as haters of the Catholics.

You are beginning to sound like a broken record zzz98.

Actually its you zzz98 who are full of hate. Hate for God and hate for the Truth from God. Its you who cannot stop hating people for showing you the Truth from God.

All you can do is call them haters.

Will you ever stop hating the Truth in the Scriptures from God? Or are you going to continue to call everyone a hater of the Catholics who brings the Truth to you?

Its you who you are hurting zzz98. Its you who will be punished.
 
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You do know zzz98 that Mary was born a sinner and died a sinner?

The only one born without sin was Jesus Christ.

I find it appalling that an intelligent person like you should fall for the lies from Catholic Church. Have you ever read the Scriptures asking the Holy Spirit to show you the Truth or do you just accept everything the Catholic Church says as absolute Truth?

You must realize the ONLY authority on the Truths is the Holy Spirit and His Scriptures. Or do you believe that God is powerless and there are other sources for the Truth that He does not have?
 

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"... I saw a light from heaven, brighter than the sun, blazing around me and my companions. We all fell to the ground, and I heard a voice saying to me in Aramaic, 'Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me? It is hard for you to kick against the goads.'" Then I asked, 'Who are you, Lord?' 'I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting,' the Lord replied. 'Now get up and stand on your feet. I have appeared to you to appoint you as a servant and as a witness of what you have seen and will see of me. I will rescue you from your own people and from the Gentiles. I am sending you to them to open their eyes and turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, so that they may receive forgiveness of sins and a place among those who are sanctified by faith in me.'"
 
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There you go again zzz98, hating the Truth from God and calling all those who oppose Satan and his lies as haters of the Catholics.

You are beginning to sound like a broken record zzz98.

Actually its you zzz98 who are full of hate. Hate for God and hate for the Truth from God. Its you who cannot stop hating people for showing you the Truth from God.

All you can do is call them haters.

Will you ever stop hating the Truth in the Scriptures from God? Or are you going to continue to call everyone a hater of the Catholics who brings the Truth to you?

Its you who you are hurting zzz98. Its you who will be punished.
I rest my case. And this person claims to be a Christian
 
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I find it interesting that you call others haters zzz98 when you yourself seem to hate all True Christians.
 
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I find it interesting that you call others haters zzz98 when you yourself seem to hate all True Christians.
Comparing my faith to a garbage can, saying I'm going to Hell just for starters. This is not hate? I wouldn't want to see what your idea of hate is
 

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Comparing my faith to a garbage can, saying I'm going to Hell just for starters. This is not hate? I wouldn't want to see what your idea of hate is
For centuries your church taught that any not belonging to her were going to hell... and they hastened their journey there by dispatching them dishonorably, and cruelly. Augustine taught that error has no rights. According to him, coercion using "great violence" was justified.
 

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If catholics were REAL christians, they would forsake Mary altogether as their intercessor, idol and thing to pray to. True christians pray only to JESUS. We don't pray to statues, nor bow down before them. We don't have graven images in the likeness of Mary or Buddha, etc..

As long as catholics profess to be christian BUT still pray to mary, bow down to her statue, say Hail Mary's and pray with rosaries, they ARE NOT TRUE CHRISTIANS because true christians pray to Jesus ONLY. We believe that ONLY JESUS hears our prayers, that ONLY JESUS answers our prayers, and that ONLY JESUS is our intercessor.

"No man comes to the Father but by me." You'll notice it doesn't say "but by Mary." lol..
 

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Comparing my faith to a garbage can, saying I'm going to Hell just for starters. This is not hate? I wouldn't want to see what your idea of hate is
Oh you poor delicate thing. Before you get all offended remember that nothing is not open to God. You cannot hide from God.

If you go to hell it will not be because a Protestant said you would go there. It will be because you chose a path that does not lead to God through Jesus Christ. You choose your own path which seems right but the bible says leads to death. You can still change but your pride and arrogance prevents you from even considering that you are in direct conflict with Gods word.

You are under no obligation to heed anything that I say but you had better heed what God has said.

John 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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If catholics were REAL christians, they would forsake Mary altogether as their intercessor, idol and thing to pray to. True christians pray only to JESUS. We don't pray to statues, nor bow down before them. We don't have graven images in the likeness of Mary or Buddha, etc..

As long as catholics profess to be christian BUT still pray to mary, bow down to her statue, say Hail Mary's and pray with rosaries, they ARE NOT TRUE CHRISTIANS because true christians pray to Jesus ONLY. We believe that ONLY JESUS hears our prayers, that ONLY JESUS answers our prayers, and that ONLY JESUS is our intercessor.

"No man comes to the Father but by me." You'll notice it doesn't say "but by Mary." lol..
When does Jesus command us to pray to Him?

From my understanding of prayer, we are to pray to the Father, in Jesus name, through the power of the Spirit.

Matthew 6:6 (NASB95)
6 “But you, when you pray, go into your inner room, close your door and pray to your Father who is in secret, and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you.


Matthew 6:9 (NASB95)
9 “Pray, then, in this way:
‘Our Father who is in heaven,
Hallowed be Your name.


Ephesians 5:20 (NASB95)
20 always giving thanks for all things in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ to God, even the Father;

I do believe that this is important for believers to understand. Jesus Christ is our mediator to the Father.

23 “In that day you will not question Me about anything. Truly, truly, I say to you, if you ask the Father for anything in My name, He will give it to you.






 
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Oh you poor delicate thing. Before you get all offended remember that nothing is not open to God. You cannot hide from God.

If you go to hell it will not be because a Protestant said you would go there. It will be because you chose a path that does not lead to God through Jesus Christ. You choose your own path which seems right but the bible says leads to death. You can still change but your pride and arrogance prevents you from even considering that you are in direct conflict with Gods word.

You are under no obligation to heed anything that I say but you had better heed what God has said.

John 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
I'm far from delicate
 
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When does Jesus command us to pray to Him?

From my understanding of prayer, we are to pray to the Father, in Jesus name, through the power of the Spirit.

Matthew 6:6 (NASB95)
6 “But you, when you pray, go into your inner room, close your door and pray to your Father who is in secret, and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you.


Matthew 6:9 (NASB95)
9 “Pray, then, in this way:
‘Our Father who is in heaven,
Hallowed be Your name.


Ephesians 5:20 (NASB95)
20 always giving thanks for all things in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ to God, even the Father;

I do believe that this is important for believers to understand. Jesus Christ is our mediator to the Father.

23 “In that day you will not question Me about anything. Truly, truly, I say to you, if you ask the Father for anything in My name, He will give it to you.







Im pretty sure her main point was >>>>> we dont pray to mary for intercession.

Since Jesus is God and God is the Father....It makes no difference if we pray to the Father as in the prayer Jesus gave as an example or if we pray to Christ because he is the Son who sits at the right hand of the Father or if we pray to the Holy Spirit who is our guide and comforter and prays for us when we are left without words. One in three persons;blessed Trinity.

Hows that for a runon sentence?!:p

Blessings
 

blue_ladybug

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When does Jesus command us to pray to Him?

From my understanding of prayer, we are to pray to the Father, in Jesus name, through the power of the Spirit.

Matthew 6:6 (NASB95)
6 “But you, when you pray, go into your inner room, close your door and pray to your Father who is in secret, and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you.


Matthew 6:9 (NASB95)
9 “Pray, then, in this way:
‘Our Father who is in heaven,
Hallowed be Your name.


Ephesians 5:20 (NASB95)
20 always giving thanks for all things in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ to God, even the Father;

I do believe that this is important for believers to understand. Jesus Christ is our mediator to the Father.

23 “In that day you will not question Me about anything. Truly, truly, I say to you, if you ask the Father for anything in My name, He will give it to you.







Exactly.. we are to pray TO JESUS. Not MARY. Jesus intercedes for us. Mary doesn't, no matter how badly catholics want to believe she does. :/