Catholic persicution.

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2Thewaters

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Again, why do you keep sunday?

It is wonderful to have a catholic here!
I have been telling everyon here that the sole authority for sunday worship was the awesome power of the catholic church that was able top make the aleged changes from sabbath to sunday in 321 ad as stated in your catholic catechism
I would like you to verify this if true? Is it?
:)
 
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2Thewaters

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#22
My Bible holds the new testament also

the new testament was originally written in Aramaic
 
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2Thewaters

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#23
It is in a different order than what the catholics mixed it up to be but they are there
 
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2Thewaters

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see, the Syrians hold the originals for the New testament written in aramaic. These were translated into greek and passed to the greeks so you have an inferior copy.
but it matches pretty close, like 99 percent
 
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Ok since we all agree on English let su stick with the KJV ok. All we do now is use the KJV for everythting we say we have to prove in the KJV. deal?
 
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No catholic add onn's not one. Or it wil lCLASH withthe Bible KJV.
 
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2Thewaters

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#27
My revelation was a direct copy from Johns original
SIGNED as a certified copy by the original translator himself
your revelation is a third generation copy.

Surprised you dont know all this...
 
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2Thewaters

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#28
kjv was made from 460 differnt manusdripts and is an average of them mostly 99 percent correct

the peshitta wa the aramaic origianl copied only for a selct few people who could speak aramaic like Jesus


anywah what does this matter?

Catholics dont follow the Bible they have anyway
 
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2Thewaters

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#29
KJV is fine with me
it is a good bible
lets stick with it
ok lets go
 
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2Thewaters

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#30
ets start with the obvious

Why do you go to church on sunday?
 
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2Thewaters

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#31
I Always wonder why someone would do that...
when it is not in the Bible... maybe as a catholic you can shed some light on that?
 

breno785au

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I'm glad Luther spoke against the bull the Catholics were doing back in the day, he stood up against white washed power hungry tyrants and enabled us all to see what they were doing against the people. Who knows what the church would be doing today if someone like him didn't. I don't have a problem with Catholics, just some of their way out beliefs..yes I'm looking at you Mary's womb thread!
 
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2Thewaters

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#33
The silence is deafening...
 

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The Catholic church may have been used by God to put the Bible as we know it together, but doesn't mean much. God knows entirely what he is doing. The point being...Even though the Catholic church may have made the books canon...they still don't match the Standards of the Bible.
 
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2Thewaters

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catholics did not put the bible together at all

they copied the peshitta scrolls

ok Luther
good idea
lets talk about him until the visitor gets his bearings
he really thought the catholics invented the Bible
yet another false doctrine bites the dust.

hang on...
 
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#36
"The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom." That fear dwelt in the heart of Luther, enabling him to maintain his steadfastness of purpose, and leading him to deep humility before God. He had an abiding sense of his dependence upon divine aid, and he did not fail to begin each day with prayer, while his heart was continually breathing a petition for guidance and support. "To pray well," he often said, "is the better half of study."
 
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In the providence of God, Luther was now to stand as the reformer of the church. He sought to turn the minds of his students away from the sophistries of philosophers and theologians, to the eternal truths set forth by prophets and apostles. He fearlessly attacked the speculative infidelity of the school-men, and opposed the philosophy and theology which had so long held a controlling influence upon the minds of the people. He saw, as we see today, the danger of exalting human theories and speculations above the revealed truths of God's word. He denounced such studies as not only worthless but pernicious, declaring, that, "the writings of the prophets and the apostles are more certain and sublime than all the sophisms and theology of the schools." "Within my heart," he adds, "reigns alone, and must alone reign, faith in my Lord Jesus Christ, who alone is the beginning, the middle, and the end of the thoughts that occupy me day and night."
 
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With deep earnestness he declared his faith in Christ as the basis of his hope,--the beginning and the end, the foundation and crowning glory of the plan of salvation. He was listened to with wonder as he spoke of that faith to the students in the university and to the crowded congregations in the church. He was steadily and surely drawing the minds of pupils and hearers away from trust in men, however high their claims, away from self-righteousness, to Christ.
 
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The burden of his preaching was, "Learn to know Christ and him crucified. Learn to despair of your own work and cry unto him, Lord Jesus thou art my righteousness and I am thy sin. Thou hast taken on thee what was mine, and given to me what was thine. What thou wast not, thou becamest, that I might become what I was not."
Thus fearlessly and firmly Luther presented those great truths which the apostles of Christ had proclaimed with such power. The voice of Paul, sounding down through the centuries, spoke through Luther, exposing superstitions, refuting error, and uprooting heresy.
 
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Priests and prelates, the professed expositors of divine truth, were perverting the Scriptures by their misstatements and prevarications; wresting the word of God to make it sustain their errors and traditions. They sedulously withheld the Bible from the people, well knowing that should they search it for themselves, their faith would be fixed upon Christ, and not upon pope and priests. The light shining forth from God's word would lead the mind directly away from the Romish faith.

Such had been the experience of Luther. As he saw the terrible apostasy and corruption of the church, he determined to be a faithful steward of God's word, to dispense to others its holy teachings in their purity and simplicity. He knew that unless the people could be led to receive the word of God as their rule of life, there could be no hope of reform. He therefore presented the Scriptures to his hearers as the oracles of God, a divine communication as verily addressed to them as though they heard the voice of God speaking to them from Heaven. With great earnestness he urged upon them the importance of gaining for themselves a knowledge of the sacred word. The Bible was written by holy men under the inspiration of the Divine Spirit, and the aid of that same Spirit was indispensable to an understanding of its teachings. It should be studied in humility and in faith, with unwavering confidence in its supreme authority, and with earnest prayer for divine aid. Only in pursuing such a course could the searcher hope to discern spiritual things. Were the word of God thus studied, it would exert a molding influence upon both the mental and the moral powers, quickening and ennobling the intellect, purifying the soul, thus erecting mighty barrier against the iniquity that was flooding the world.