Cavemen?

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Well, one look at the second one and I see a clear progression of monkey men, gradually learning to stand up straight and put their shoulders back, like in all the textbooks. Don't blame anybody else you don't have the intellectual acumen to extrapolate a T. Rex from a petrified finger nail clipping.
T-Rex? I extrapolated a Rhino.
 

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From the Smithsonian website...

Built for the cold
Neanderthals of Europe, who had evolved by about 200,000 years ago, had to endure winter cold and even ice ages. A short, broad body shape helps to retain heat, which is useful in cold environments like those inhabited by Neanderthals. The lower arm and leg bones in this Neanderthal skeleton are short compared to the upper arm and leg bones, a feature that also reduced heat loss. This skeleton is reconstructed based on La Ferrassie 1 and Kebara 1.



Ah, a reconstructed composite?
No, it's a Terminator. I saw one once at Universal Studios in Orlando, Florida.
 

john832

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If life really developed in a primordial soup, I would think it a simple task for intelligent men with the technological tools available today to duplicate the feat accomplished by mindless chance. Somebody create a living cell for me. It shouldn't be that hard to do, after all, it was an accident. Wasn't it?
 
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... I will NEVER deviate from it (young earth creationism?) and there is no chance in the world that ANY conversation will change my mind concerning the creation of man.
That is your choice. But you should stop pretending that you are interested in the available facts, and evidence. You should also stop pretending that there can be any facts or evidence that support your beliefs.

Of course the Bible states that "Great are the works of the Lord, studied by all who delight in them" (Psalm 111:2). Psalm 85:11 reads, “Truth springs from the earth; and righteousness looks down from heaven.” The Hebrew word translated here as “truth,” emet, basically means “certainty and dependability.” But you do not believe that either.
 

john832

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That is your choice. But you should stop pretending that you are interested in the available facts, and evidence. You should also stop pretending that there can be any facts or evidence that support your beliefs.
Show 'em to me. Show me the MOUNTAINS of evidence you keep assuring me exists.

Of course the Bible states that "Great are the works of the Lord, studied by all who delight in them" (Psalm 111:2). Psalm 85:11 reads, “Truth springs from the earth; and righteousness looks down from heaven.” The Hebrew word translated here as “truth,” emet, basically means “certainty and dependability.” But you do not believe that either.
Well, actually I do. I believe that along with this...

Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
 
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Oh man, there's that word "primordial"!!! AAACCCKKKK! \:eek:/

I was not very familiar with that word until a few nights ago when my son beat the stuffings out of me on BookWorm with the word: PRIMORDIAL. He got 7,540 points for that one word!!! I almost fell outta my chair. He cooked my goose in final points, of course.... oooohhhhhh

Sorry. We're talking about cavemen in here, right? Oops. Carry on.
:eek: *heehee*
 
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JesusIsAll

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If life really developed in a primordial soup, I would think it a simple task for intelligent men with the technological tools available today to duplicate the feat accomplished by mindless chance. Somebody create a living cell for me. It shouldn't be that hard to do, after all, it was an accident. Wasn't it?
Shhh! They have no way of explaining the irreducible complexity of the simplest pneumonia cell. You're threatening to setback trolling Christians for a decade!
 
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JesusIsAll

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Show 'em to me. Show me the MOUNTAINS of evidence you keep assuring me exists.
Now you've done it! As if we needed the Brothers Grimm turned into an encyclopedia. You really should learn to watch what you ask for, as this will get down to copying and pasting Star Trek scripts.
 

john832

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What amazes me is the amount of faith required to believe that this complex and ordered creation came about from nothing but shear chance and accident. Lemme see here, to believe that all we see came about from NOTHING with NO EXTERNAL forces applied is rational? Wanna buy a bridge?
 
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JesusIsAll

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Oh man, there's that word "primordial"!!! AAACCCKKKK! \:eek:/

I was not very familiar with that word until a few nights ago when my son beat the stuffings out of me on BookWorm with the word: PRIMORDIAL. He got 7,540 points for that one word!!! I almost fell outta my chair. He cooked my goose in final points, of course.... oooohhhhhh

Sorry. We're talking about cavemen in here, right? Oops. Carry on.
:eek: *heehee*
Actually, you point out the need for a new thread, dealing with whether people prefer Campbell's or Progresso Primordial Soup, though this will welcome the cults who make their own.
 
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One would assume the Smithsonian would put there best and most convincing evidence on there website, and so they did...

I guess you missed the significant features of this tibia "shin bone,"
The top part of the tibia (where the lower leg meets the knee) is concave, or depressed from stress. This shows that the individual often put weight on the bone—evidence of standing upright. The lower part of the tibia (where the lower leg meets the ankle) is wider or thicker—evidence that it acted as a type of shock absorber as this individual walked .
The issue addressed was if the Australopithecus anamensis were walking on two legs. They were.
 
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JesusIsAll

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What amazes me is the amount of faith required to believe that this complex and ordered creation came about from nothing but shear chance and accident. Lemme see here, to believe that all we see came about from NOTHING with NO EXTERNAL forces applied is rational? Wanna buy a bridge?
What, are you actually saying that, if you found a stainless wristwatch in the woods, you're so stupid to believe it didn't evolve from iron ore?
 
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VioletReigns

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From the Smithsonian website...

Built for the cold
Neanderthals of Europe, who had evolved by about 200,000 years ago, had to endure winter cold and even ice ages. A short, broad body shape helps to retain heat, which is useful in cold environments like those inhabited by Neanderthals. The lower arm and leg bones in this Neanderthal skeleton are short compared to the upper arm and leg bones, a feature that also reduced heat loss. This skeleton is reconstructed based on La Ferrassie 1 and Kebara 1.



Ah, a reconstructed composite?
This honestly looks like my neighbor, except his posture is really bad. (My neighbor's, that is)
 

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Actually, you point out the need for a new thread, dealing with whether people prefer Campbell's or Progresso Primordial Soup, though this will welcome the cults who make their own.
This post would fit well in the 'What's Cooking?' thread. Personally, I prefer Campbell's Chunky Primordial soup. There are chunks of stuff in it. It's hard to figure out exactly what it is. It taste kinda swampy so I use lots of pepper.
 

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Haven't really read the thread...just a tad...Blond response.

Cavemen? Nonsense....

If a hu-man lived in a Cave I guess he could be called a Caveman....

Last time I checked most monkeys live in trees so if they lived in caves we would call them Cave Monkeys.

I am still looking around in nature to see the half monkey/man the half duck/goose, the half cat/lynx I don't see any of that in nature.

Oh and I know the evolutionists will say it takes billions of years for freckle to form....but with a world that is only 6000 years old that's a stretch....

Call me closed minded or whatever, I prefer to believe in God's creatorship and that an evening and a morning are a literal day and that the Bible tells us where the 7 day week came from. That makes so much more sense to me than carbon dating and such. But then I am just a Blond..... What do I know?

With this reasoning I guess I could be called a Townhouse Woman since that is what I live in....
 
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This post would fit well in the 'What's Cooking?' thread. Personally, I prefer Campbell's Chunky Primordial soup. There are chunks of stuff in it. It's hard to figure out exactly what it is. It taste kinda swampy so I use lots of pepper.
No kidding! No telling what it is, and it takes a lot to kill the funny taste.
 
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We ought to be finding complete skeletons by the truck loads, no by the cargo ship loads in our back yards for all the intermediates that had to live between the ancestor and modern man.
How many excavations have you worked on in your vast experience?

I have worked on over 70 archaeological sites. In those I have excavated the burials of 33 individuals who died from 6,500 years ago, to the last 300. I assisted homicide investigations as a forensics expert in 3 cases with buried remains less than 1 year post death. In not one single instance was a complete skeleton recovered.

So share with me your technique that you can use to find "complete skeletons by the truck loads."
 
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This post would fit well in the 'What's Cooking?' thread. Personally, I prefer Campbell's Chunky Primordial soup. There are chunks of stuff in it. It's hard to figure out exactly what it is. It taste kinda swampy so I use lots of pepper.
Here is my favorite:

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