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Assuming things? You say that Christ cannot be in me and we are one and and that you cant be like Him and without sin ... And I am assuming things? Come on girl, who is teaching you these things? It sure isnt Christ!
Seriously? Wow.
 
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you aren't and i sure don't.
and i don't want to be anywhere near you.

Oh boy, this made me laugh so hard I almost shot coffee out my nose. Though really, it's NOT so funny...
 

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I AM That I Am, and that isn’t what you want me to be.
a duplicate of the Father huh?

i wonder if THE I AM agrees with you.

this is pure blasphemy and absolutely evil. don't reckon i've ever come across any so brazen as you.

i'm out of this place until you're gone.

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Geneva Study Bible

And God said unto Moses, I {n} AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. (n) The God who has always been, am, and shall be: the God almighty, by whom all things have their being, and the God of mercy, mindful of my promise.

Exodus 3:14
New International Version(©1984)
God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: 'I AM has sent me to you.'"

New Living Translation(©2007)
God replied to Moses, "I Am Who I Am. Say this to the people of Israel: I Am has sent me to you."

English Standard Version(©2001)
God said to Moses, “I AM WHO I AM.” And he said, “Say this to the people of Israel, ‘I AM has sent me to you.’”

New American Standard Bible(©1995)
God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM"; and He said, "Thus you shall say to the sons of Israel, 'I AM has sent me to you.'"

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.

GOD'S WORD® Translation(©1995)
God answered Moses, "I Am Who I Am. This is what you must say to the people of Israel: 'I Am has sent me to you.'"

King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shall you say unto the children of Israel, I AM has sent me unto you.

American King James Version
And God said to Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shall you say to the children of Israel, I AM has sent me to you.

American Standard Version
And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.

Bible in Basic English
And God said to him, I AM WHAT I AM: and he said, Say to the children of Israel, I AM has sent me to you.

Douay-Rheims Bible
God said to Moses: I AM WHO AM. He said: Thus shalt thou say to the children of Israel: HE WHO IS, hath sent me to you.

Darby Bible Translation
And God said to Moses, I AM THAT I AM. And he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel: I AM hath sent me unto you.

English Revised Version
And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.

Webster's Bible Translation
And God said to Moses, I AM THAT I AM: And he said, Thus shalt thou say to the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me to you.

World English Bible
God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM," and he said, "You shall tell the children of Israel this: 'I AM has sent me to you.'"

Young's Literal Translation
And God saith unto Moses, 'I AM THAT WHICH I AM;' He saith also, 'Thus dost thou say to the sons of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.'

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John 8:24
New International Version(©1984)
I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am [the one I claim to be], you will indeed die in your sins."

New Living Translation(©2007)
That is why I said that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I Am who I claim to be, you will die in your sins."

English Standard Version(©2001)
I told you that you would die in your sins, for unless you believe that I am he you will die in your sins.”

New American Standard Bible(©1995)
"Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I am He, you will die in your sins."

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

International Standard Version(©2008)
That is why I told you that you will die in your sins, for unless you believe that I AM, you will die in your sins."

Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
“I said to you that you shall die in your sins, for unless you shall believe that I AM THE LIVING GOD, you shall die in your sins.”

GOD'S WORD® Translation(©1995)
For this reason I told you that you'll die because of your sins. If you don't believe that I am the one, you'll die because of your sins."

King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
I said therefore unto you, that you shall die in your sins: for if you believe not that I am he, you shall die in your sins.

American King James Version
I said therefore to you, that you shall die in your sins: for if you believe not that I am he, you shall die in your sins.

American Standard Version
I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for except ye believe that I am he , ye shall die in your sins.

Bible in Basic English
For this reason I said to you that death will overtake you in your sins: for if you have not faith that I am he, death will come to you while you are in your sins.

Douay-Rheims Bible
Therefore I said to you, that you shall die in your sins. For if you believe not that I am he, you shall die in your sin.

Darby Bible Translation
I said therefore to you, that ye shall die in your sins; for unless ye shall believe that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

English Revised Version
I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for except ye believe that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

Webster's Bible Translation
I said therefore to you, that ye will die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye will die in your sins.

Weymouth New Testament
That is why I told you that you will die in your sins; for, unless you believe that I am He, that is what will happen."

World English Bible
I said therefore to you that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I am he, you will die in your sins."

Young's Literal Translation
I said, therefore, to you, that ye shall die in your sins, for if ye may not believe that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.'
 
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a duplicate of the Father huh?

i wonder if THE I AM agrees with you.

this is pure blasphemy and absolutely evil. don't reckon i've ever come across any so brazen as you.

i'm out of this place until you're gone.

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Geneva Study Bible

And God said unto Moses, I {n} AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. (n) The God who has always been, am, and shall be: the God almighty, by whom all things have their being, and the God of mercy, mindful of my promise.

Exodus 3:14
New International Version(©1984)
God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: 'I AM has sent me to you.'"

New Living Translation(©2007)
God replied to Moses, "I Am Who I Am. Say this to the people of Israel: I Am has sent me to you."

English Standard Version(©2001)
God said to Moses, “I AM WHO I AM.” And he said, “Say this to the people of Israel, ‘I AM has sent me to you.’”

New American Standard Bible(©1995)
God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM"; and He said, "Thus you shall say to the sons of Israel, 'I AM has sent me to you.'"

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.

GOD'S WORD® Translation(©1995)
God answered Moses, "I Am Who I Am. This is what you must say to the people of Israel: 'I Am has sent me to you.'"

King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shall you say unto the children of Israel, I AM has sent me unto you.

American King James Version
And God said to Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shall you say to the children of Israel, I AM has sent me to you.

American Standard Version
And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.

Bible in Basic English
And God said to him, I AM WHAT I AM: and he said, Say to the children of Israel, I AM has sent me to you.

Douay-Rheims Bible
God said to Moses: I AM WHO AM. He said: Thus shalt thou say to the children of Israel: HE WHO IS, hath sent me to you.

Darby Bible Translation
And God said to Moses, I AM THAT I AM. And he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel: I AM hath sent me unto you.

English Revised Version
And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.

Webster's Bible Translation
And God said to Moses, I AM THAT I AM: And he said, Thus shalt thou say to the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me to you.

World English Bible
God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM," and he said, "You shall tell the children of Israel this: 'I AM has sent me to you.'"

Young's Literal Translation
And God saith unto Moses, 'I AM THAT WHICH I AM;' He saith also, 'Thus dost thou say to the sons of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.'

~


John 8:24
New International Version(©1984)
I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am [the one I claim to be], you will indeed die in your sins."

New Living Translation(©2007)
That is why I said that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I Am who I claim to be, you will die in your sins."

English Standard Version(©2001)
I told you that you would die in your sins, for unless you believe that I am he you will die in your sins.”

New American Standard Bible(©1995)
"Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I am He, you will die in your sins."

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

International Standard Version(©2008)
That is why I told you that you will die in your sins, for unless you believe that I AM, you will die in your sins."

Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
“I said to you that you shall die in your sins, for unless you shall believe that I AM THE LIVING GOD, you shall die in your sins.”

GOD'S WORD® Translation(©1995)
For this reason I told you that you'll die because of your sins. If you don't believe that I am the one, you'll die because of your sins."

King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
I said therefore unto you, that you shall die in your sins: for if you believe not that I am he, you shall die in your sins.

American King James Version
I said therefore to you, that you shall die in your sins: for if you believe not that I am he, you shall die in your sins.

American Standard Version
I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for except ye believe that I am he , ye shall die in your sins.

Bible in Basic English
For this reason I said to you that death will overtake you in your sins: for if you have not faith that I am he, death will come to you while you are in your sins.

Douay-Rheims Bible
Therefore I said to you, that you shall die in your sins. For if you believe not that I am he, you shall die in your sin.

Darby Bible Translation
I said therefore to you, that ye shall die in your sins; for unless ye shall believe that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

English Revised Version
I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for except ye believe that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

Webster's Bible Translation
I said therefore to you, that ye will die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye will die in your sins.

Weymouth New Testament
That is why I told you that you will die in your sins; for, unless you believe that I am He, that is what will happen."

World English Bible
I said therefore to you that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I am he, you will die in your sins."

Young's Literal Translation
I said, therefore, to you, that ye shall die in your sins, for if ye may not believe that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.'

Now you are getting it. I AM has sent me. I am that I am.
 
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Is intentionally making false statements that urge others to react in anger considered a stumbling block?

What about judging other people and telling them they are not good enough or less than what God made them because they can't agree with your twisted version of the Bible and then turning it around and accuse those people you just stiffed armed with lies as judging you?



Romans 14:13
New King James Version (NKJV)
13 Therefore let us not judge one another anymore, but rather resolve this, not to put a stumbling block or a cause to fall in our brother’s way.

Remember how angry people got at Jesus, pulling his beard, spitting on him smacking him in the face, thrashing him. Ever wonder what made them so full of hate and anger? And all I have done is repeated the things Jesus applied to himself. Not one thing I have said was of my own, but from the Father and Christ in me. If that provokes you to such anger then I would take a very serious, long, and hard look at who you are personally. Condemning the Christ that is in me is not a very good witness for the Christ be in you. The only stumbling block I see here is the Christ, it is He you stumble over.
 

cronjecj

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Now you are getting it. I AM has sent me. I am that I am.
Because you don't believe Jesus is the most high God i will not believe what you say at all.

i already had my lesson for believing false doctrines but it won't happen again, i only believe scriptural teachings.
 
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A closed mind cant see the things of God. It is limited to self.
 
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Remember how angry people got at Jesus, pulling his beard, spitting on him smacking him in the face, thrashing him. Ever wonder what made them so full of hate and anger? And all I have done is repeated the things Jesus applied to himself. Not one thing I have said was of my own, but from the Father and Christ in me. If that provokes you to such anger then I would take a very serious, long, and hard look at who you are personally. Condemning the Christ that is in me is not a very good witness for the Christ be in you. The only stumbling block I see here is the Christ, it is He you stumble over.
there you go assuming I'm angry at you.

I actually feel pity and sorrow that you have so blinded you.

If you want to compare yourself to Jesus and the people on this forum are the ones "pulling your beard, spitting on you and smacking you in the face and thrashing you" then you have belittled what Jesus actually had to endure so that you can feel HIS equal.

you can continue in your delusions. I only remain to speak to my brethren IN CHRIST who worship JESUS CHRIST, GOD Almighty in Spirit and in TRUTH. not those who claim to BE Christ.

Play your words games, get your followers. In the end all will have to answer to GOD.

Jesus was a gatherer not a scatterer.

When He walked this earth in a fleshly Human body, people Flocked to hear Him speak. IT was not until Satan come to cruxify Him did the sheep scatterer but that was not the Christ who did it but SATAN.

Who wants to stand close to the presence of Satan that deceiving angel of Light and his ministers?

anyways my previous statement still stands:


Is intentionally making false statements that urge others to react in anger considered a stumbling block?

What about judging other people and telling them they are not good enough or less than what God made them because they can't agree with your twisted version of the Bible and then turning it around and accuse those people you just stiffed armed with lies as judging you?


typical lies and accusations and playing the victim afterwards.

pitiful mind and word games.

it does not inspire anger, just pity.

temptation itself is not a sin but to give in to it and speak out of anger is.

to tempt someone however to anger IS A SIN and JESUS DID NOT DO THAT and neither should one who is in Christ.

HOwever if someone gets angry at you for speaking God's Truth in love, then you endure for the same love that had Jesus endure for the remission of our sins. You stand in the gap and wait for God to work in their lives and for them to truly repent of their sins.
 
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cronjecj

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Remember how angry people got at Jesus, pulling his beard, spitting on him smacking him in the face, thrashing him. Ever wonder what made them so full of hate and anger? And all I have done is repeated the things Jesus applied to himself. Not one thing I have said was of my own, but from the Father and Christ in me. If that provokes you to such anger then I would take a very serious, long, and hard look at who you are personally. Condemning the Christ that is in me is not a very good witness for the Christ be in you. The only stumbling block I see here is the Christ, it is He you stumble over.
Yes because they didn't believe Jesus was the most high God thus they got angry at Him and crucified Him at that.

But the difference here is we believe Jesus is the most high God and there is no equal to Him.

You are a mere man born from here and received the gift of His Spirit, you are not "I AM THAT I AM".

Jesus is I AM THAT I AM because He was the only one ever that came down from heaven no one else thus all other creatures and humans are born here 1st.. Jesus was in Heaven before He came to earth.
 
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Yes because they didn't believe Jesus was the most high God thus they got angry at Him and crucified Him at that.

But the difference here is we believe Jesus is the most high God and there is no equal to Him.

You are a mere man born from here and who can receive the gift of His Spirit, you are not "I AM THAT I AM".

Jesus is I AM THAT I AM because He was the only one ever that came down from heaven no one else thus all other creatures and humans are born here 1st.. Jesus was in Heaven before He came to earth.
fixed it for you cronjecj. future tense not past tense is more applicable in this case.

yes and people can blaze me for speaking what God laid on my heart but I remain firm in HIS TRUTH and not men's lies.
 

cronjecj

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fixed it for you cronjecj. future tense not past tense is more applicable in this case.

yes and people can blaze me for speaking what God laid on my heart but I remain firm in HIS TRUTH and not men's lies.
ah thank you ma sister.

Amen to that!
 
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there you go assuming I'm angry at you.

I actually feel pity and sorrow that you have so blinded you.

If you want to compare yourself to Jesus and the people on this forum are the ones "pulling your beard, spitting on you and smacking you in the face and thrashing you" then you have belittled what Jesus actually had to endure so that you can feel HIS equal.

you can continue in your delusions. I only remain to speak to my brethren IN CHRIST who worship JESUS CHRIST, GOD Almighty in Spirit and in TRUTH. not those who claim to BE Christ.

Play your words games, get your followers. In the end all will have to answer to GOD.

Jesus was a gatherer not a scatterer.

When He walked this earth in a fleshly Human body, people Flocked to hear Him speak. IT was not until Satan come to cruxify Him did the sheep scatterer but that was not the Christ who did it but SATAN.

Who wants to stand close to the presence of Satan that deceiving angel of Light and his ministers?

anyways my previous statement still stands:


Is intentionally making false statements that urge others to react in anger considered a stumbling block?

What about judging other people and telling them they are not good enough or less than what God made them because they can't agree with your twisted version of the Bible and then turning it around and accuse those people you just stiffed armed with lies as judging you?

typical lies and accusations and playing the victim afterwards.

pitiful mind and word games.

it does not inspire anger, just pity.

temptation itself is not a sin but to give in to it and speak out of anger is.

to tempt someone however to anger IS A SIN and JESUS DID NOT DO THAT and neither should one who is in Christ.

HOwever if someone gets angry at you for speaking God's Truth in love, then you endure for the same love that had Jesus endure for the remission of our sins. You stand in the gap and wait for God to work in their lives and for them to truly repent of their sins.

there you go assuming I'm angry at you.

I actually feel pity and sorrow that you have so blinded you.


You feel pity and sorrow because Gods Spirit is in me? Or because I do not follow your ways?

If you want to compare yourself to Jesus and the people on this forum are the ones "pulling your beard, spitting on you and smacking you in the face and thrashing you" then you have belittled what Jesus actually had to endure so that you can feel HIS equal.

I do not compare myself to Jesus at all, I compare myself to the Spirit of God that is in us.

you can continue in your delusions. I only remain to speak to my brethren IN CHRIST who worship JESUS CHRIST, GOD Almighty in Spirit and in TRUTH. not those who claim to BE Christ.

You speak to your brother your laws for tradition which make your god what you want him to be. If you be in Christ you would telling them the same things Jesus is telling you, be as I AM.

Play your words games, get your followers. In the end all will have to answer to GOD.

You answer to God today, either He be in you or He is not.

Jesus was a gatherer not a scatterer.

Actually he came to bring division and it is working.

When He walked this earth in a fleshly Human body, people Flocked to hear Him speak. IT was not until Satan come to cruxify Him did the sheep scatterer but that was not the Christ who did it but SATAN.

Few who came to hear him, and few who find His way. And in John 6:66 many who did follow him turned away to follow him no more. No different today, few who come to hear him speak the things of Christ be in you.

Who wants to stand close to the presence of Satan that deceiving angel of Light and his ministers?

Amen, I agree totally, the one who would tell you you are a sinner and cant be without sin and that Christ cant be in you and purify your mortal body and perfect that what is within.

anyways my previous statement still stands:

And it will until you give up that right to yoursaelf and put on the Christ.


Is intentionally making false statements that urge others to react in anger considered a stumbling block?

As I said if Christ in me angers people then so be it, Jesus stirred up the same reactions.

What about judging other people and telling them they are not good enough or less than what God made them because they can't agree with your twisted version of the Bible and then turning it around and accuse those people you just stiffed armed with lies as judging you?



typical lies and accusations and playing the victim afterwards.

pitiful mind and word games.

As I said if Christ provokes people to anger then so be it, that attitude follows the Christ where ever He goes.

it does not inspire anger, just pity.

Pity that CHrist be in me and we are one? What is the pity in that?

temptation itself is not a sin but to give in to it and speak out of anger is.

to tempt someone however to anger IS A SIN and JESUS DID NOT DO THAT and neither should one who is in Christ.

God tempts people to follow Him. Sanin does the same. In one there is no sin, in the other you are a sinner.

HOwever if someone gets angry at you for speaking God's Truth in love, then you endure for the same love that had Jesus endure for the remission of our sins. You stand in the gap and wait for God to work in their lives and for them to truly repent of their sins.

Yes the same patience Jesus had. At least I don’t make a whip and drive out the money changers.
And I’m waiting and so is Christ, He is knocking at your door this day waiting to come to you and take away your sin.
And what about judging others and telling them they cant have what Jesus had? Or telling them they cant be delivered and free from sin. or judging them by telling them that Christ has no power to come and make them one with Him? Or you dont and cant have the mind of Christ? You dont see that judgment do you? You are faultless!

 
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Yes because they didn't believe Jesus was the most high God thus they got angry at Him and crucified Him at that.

But the difference here is we believe Jesus is the most high God and there is no equal to Him.

You are a mere man born from here and received the gift of His Spirit, you are not "I AM THAT I AM".

Jesus is I AM THAT I AM because He was the only one ever that came down from heaven no one else thus all other creatures and humans are born here 1st.. Jesus was in Heaven before He came to earth.
Actually we who have Gods Spirit in us, the Christ, know that God is SPirit and not a man and resides in us just as He did in Jesus. I am that I am in Christ.
 
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Because you don't believe Jesus is the most high God i will not believe what you say at all.

i already had my lesson for believing false doctrines but it won't happen again, i only believe scriptural teachings.
A false doctrine would be to believe not to have in you that what Jesus had in him and came to give to you the same. same SPirit, same mind, same everything the Father has. You are already duped into believeing other things from Him.
 
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fixed it for you cronjecj. future tense not past tense is more applicable in this case.

yes and people can blaze me for speaking what God laid on my heart but I remain firm in HIS TRUTH and not men's lies.
That is the problem in your doctrines. You always apply it for some future time and never apply it to yourself for today. It is always someone else and never you.

But we in Christ He is come and has made His abode in us and we do not wait, we have accepted His coming.
 

cronjecj

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A false doctrine would be to believe not to have in you that what Jesus had in him and came to give to you the same. same SPirit, same mind, same everything the Father has. You are already duped into believeing other things from Him.
There you go again over talking the same thing you did from day one.

False doctrine is anything that does not line up with scripture.

Is Jesus Christ God? yes or no.