Christ in You is the Hope of Glory.

[GaryMac]

So by the way that is NOT the gospel,

This is the gospel,

To preach the good news (John 3:16
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life) for those who believe in the Son has eternal life.

Last time i checked it says believe to be saved NOT in order to salvation we must be everything he was otherwise we don't follow Him at all which is a lie.

Romans 1:16
For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth, to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

Gary, are you equal and do everything according to the book just as Christ was?

Sorry but but that is not His way for you. His way for you is to believe in Jesus Christ.

Even Paul struggled with the flesh so what you are saying is that you unlocked a secret that all of a sudden you got it right and Paul didn't....100% of the time??

The good news is CHrist in you is the hope of glory.

And yes everything God had for Jesus is mine as well.

What you mean is your way for me is not your way for me. His way for me is to give to me everything He has.

Paul spoke for himself, if he had stuuggles I am sure he worked it out. The thorne in his flesh was his desire for recognition, I think he finally got that worked out as well.

 

[Abiding]

What makes me feel good is I have relinquished myself, gave up the right to myself and my doctrine, and put on the Christ, Gods Spirit in me, Christ formed in me.

What makes you feel bad is conviction and you put me high up on that pedestal above you and you think I am someone who thinks he is som kind of great one. But I cast myself down from that and tell you, it is you who is supposed to be that person of Christ, Christ in you, same Spirit in you who was in Christ Jesus, walk as He walked, same everything.


Now how many time have I lifted up the Christ to be in you and you in Him as one and you shot me down because your doctrine will not allow you to be and then you put me up on that pedestal above you? Can’t even see what you are doing can you? You are so engulfed as to be right in your own doctrine and all these things presented to you by Christ Himself from His words to you and all these things for you to be is wrong ... And that makes me the bad guy. Jesus understood what it was to be put up on that pedestal, and so do I, you have made perfect example of the meaning in it and all I have ever done is preached, Christ in you is the hope of glory. Forget about me, this is about you and who you are.

No Gary...this is all about you and you know it.
Jesus Christ is our Lord and we know it.
Dont worry noone put you on a pedestal..so quit trying to identify
yourself with Christs sufferings...your suffering from spreading rotton theology

 

[AnandaHya]

no it should always be about JESUS and who JESUS was, is and will do in the lives of His children. JESUS CHRIST, no other Christ, born of a VIRGIN, ONLY Begotten SON of GOD who enable others to become the ADOPTED children of GOD with the HOLY SPIRIT teaching our spirits and souls and mind and body to obey GOD who leads, guides and directs HIS chosen.

WHO will come to RESURRECT the LIVING and the DEAD and give glorified BODIES to match the Reborn SPIRITS and HEARTS of His people.

Issues with GaryMac:

states that JESUS was born of MARY AND Joseph through carnal relations, denies that Mary is a PHYSICAL virgin and redefines the words begotten, virgin, Christ, resurrection and other key doctrines according to the BIBLE and the HOLY SPIRIT who testifies to GOD's truth.

Issues with GaryMac:

False doctrines, Prideful heart, and lies about others he does not know or understand. continually twisting of words and scripture to elevate himself and degrade others by his "superior" understanding and position in "christ" who he denies is ONLY JESUS, just as he denies the JESUS is the ONLY Begotten son of GOD and that others are ADOPTED children, which isn't POWERFUL or GLORIOUS enough for GaryMac.

anyways...

2 Peter 2:1
[ Destructive Doctrines ] But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction.

 

[MissCris]

Yeah, I had intended to stay away from here for a reason, guess I should have listened to the voice telling me not to come back.

Parting words: If you're not lifting up Jesus Christ HIMSELF (not Jesus IN us or some variation thereof), then you're not preaching the True Gospel, and you'll have to face the consequences of that.

I'm outta here.

 

[GaryMac]

Gary said: And I agree, my message does not fit your standard that you have set for me, but it does fit the standard God set for me,

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Sorry Gary its doubtful that God would approve heresy. We have His Word and the wonderful
truths that are expressed in it. Where we can grow in Knowledge and experience In Christ.
There is so much more to it than your saying, and We all know the Lord the author and finisher
of our faith will lead us into it by the Holyspirit. You may not divert anyone with your streamlined
version trying to make us a equal to Christ. We dont want to be equal with Christ. Thats not what
a joint Heir is. Satan has found this out already. P.S. you dont understand 1 John any better that John 17.

I know you dont want to be equal with Christ and that is the only sin He cannot forgive is to deny His Holy Spirit. But it is Gods will for you else He wouldnt have sent the Christ to be in you at all.

And you cant be a joint heir if you reject that what you are heir of. Our inheretance is Christ in you. There is noting else He can give you but His SPirit. He is a Spirit like it or not. ANd if you are to worship Him at all it is to worship him in SPirit, His Spirit in you, Christ in you. And until that happens, your worship is toward a man, a god of flesh.

 

[GaryMac]

Yeah, I had intended to stay away from here for a reason, guess I should have listened to the voice telling me not to come back.

Parting words: If you're not lifting up Jesus Christ HIMSELF (not Jesus IN us or some variation thereof), then you're not preaching the True Gospel, and you'll have to face the consequences of that.

I'm outta here.

Why do you suggest that God doesnt want you to have what Jesus had when God sent Jesus to you to show you His way for you? Go0ds way for you is Jesus Christ. Be one with Him.

 

[GaryMac]

No Gary...this is all about you and you know it.
Jesus Christ is our Lord and we know it.
Dont worry noone put you on a pedestal..so quit trying to identify
yourself with Christs sufferings...your suffering from spreading rotton theology

Of course it is all about me and it is all about you as well. I have stated this over and over this isnt about who Christ is it is about who you are in Christ.

Ad my identification is with the Christ, and if that is rotten to you then I would sugest that you seek the one who makes His identity with you as well.

 

[GaryMac]

no it should always be about JESUS and who JESUS was, is and will do in the lives of His children. JESUS CHRIST, no other Christ, born of a VIRGIN, ONLY Begotten SON of GOD who enable others to become the ADOPTED children of GOD with the HOLY SPIRIT teaching our spirits and souls and mind and body to obey GOD who leads, guides and directs HIS chosen.

WHO will come to RESURRECT the LIVING and the DEAD and give glorified BODIES to match the Reborn SPIRITS and HEARTS of His people.

Issues with GaryMac:

states that JESUS was born of MARY AND Joseph through carnal relations, denies that Mary is a PHYSICAL virgin and redefines the words begotten, virgin, Christ, resurrection and other key doctrines according to the BIBLE and the HOLY SPIRIT who testifies to GOD's truth.

Issues with GaryMac:

False doctrines, Prideful heart, and lies about others he does not know or understand. continually twisting of words and scripture to elevate himself and degrade others by his "superior" understanding and position in "christ" who he denies is ONLY JESUS, just as he denies the JESUS is the ONLY Begotten son of GOD and that others are ADOPTED children, which isn't POWERFUL or GLORIOUS enough for GaryMac.

anyways...

2 Peter 2:1
[ Destructive Doctrines ] But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction.

Anyone who has the Christ knows they were a virgin as well until that same seed planted in Mary is planted in you. Giving birth to that seed is the real issue. Christ in you.

 

[cronjecj]

The good news is CHrist in you is the hope of glory.

And yes everything God had for Jesus is mine as well.

What you mean is your way for me is not your way for me. His way for me is to give to me everything He has.

Paul spoke for himself, if he had stuuggles I am sure he worked it out. The thorne in his flesh was his desire for recognition, I think he finally got that worked out as well.

No it is NOT. The good news is the God gave His Son for the sins of all mankind so that whoever believes in Him has eternal life.

Once again you don't believe Jesus is God so little will you know the things of Christ.

His way for us is to give us eternal life if we believe in Him.

O really now? where in the scripture does it say that? In scripture it states we will struggle until we leave the body.

 

[Abiding]

Jesus warned us of many who would say I am Christ. Well they are here.

Matthew 24:4-5
King James Version (KJV)
4And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

5For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

23Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

24For there shall arise false christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect


Dont misunderstand Jesus isnt warning only about imposter messiahs He said they will come "In His name" saying they are a christ.....sound familiar?

 

[Abiding]

Of course it is all about me and it is all about you as well. I have stated this over and over this isnt about who Christ is it is about who you are in Christ.

Ad my identification is with the Christ, and if that is rotten to you then I would sugest that you seek the one who makes His identity with you as well.

Forget it bud Lucifer did this......besides i Love it being all about my Lord. Thankyou Lord!!

 

[cronjecj]

Of course it is all about me and it is all about you as well. I have stated this over and over this isnt about who Christ is it is about who you are in Christ.

Ad my identification is with the Christ, and if that is rotten to you then I would sugest that you seek the one who makes His identity with you as well.

im not gonna let you stumble my brothers and sisters.

It is all about Christ and what He has done for us.

Stop trying to bring Christ to your level. Christ is the Most High and above all whether you like it or not.

 

[Abiding]

1 Corinthians 11:19
King James Version (KJV)
19For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.

Deuteronomy 13:3-4
King James Version (KJV)
3Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.

4Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him.

 

[cronjecj]

Anyone who has the Christ knows they were a virgin as well until that same seed planted in Mary is planted in you. Giving birth to that seed is the real issue. Christ in you.

Mary and Joseph did not have communion together in order for the birth of Jesus.

Jesus was born literally from a virgin, the 1st time ever and the last.

 

[GaryMac]

no it should always be about JESUS and who JESUS was, is and will do in the lives of His children. JESUS CHRIST, no other Christ, born of a VIRGIN, ONLY Begotten SON of GOD who enable others to become the ADOPTED children of GOD with the HOLY SPIRIT teaching our spirits and souls and mind and body to obey GOD who leads, guides and directs HIS chosen.

WHO will come to RESURRECT the LIVING and the DEAD and give glorified BODIES to match the Reborn SPIRITS and HEARTS of His people.

Issues with GaryMac:

states that JESUS was born of MARY AND Joseph through carnal relations, denies that Mary is a PHYSICAL virgin and redefines the words begotten, virgin, Christ, resurrection and other key doctrines according to the BIBLE and the HOLY SPIRIT who testifies to GOD's truth.

Issues with GaryMac:

False doctrines, Prideful heart, and lies about others he does not know or understand. continually twisting of words and scripture to elevate himself and degrade others by his "superior" understanding and position in "christ" who he denies is ONLY JESUS, just as he denies the JESUS is the ONLY Begotten son of GOD and that others are ADOPTED children, which isn't POWERFUL or GLORIOUS enough for GaryMac.

anyways...

2 Peter 2:1
[ Destructive Doctrines ] But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction.

Christ does come and resurrect us who are dead in Him, He lifted me up to meet with Him and those who haven’t a clue what it is to be in Christ He comes and gives them His mind, His Spirit, His everything, Most don’t believe that He can though.

And the twisting of words only result from you not know what the word actually teaches through the eyes of Christ. Your laws for tradition will not allow you to see anything outside what your flesh man has taught you.

And a false prophet is anyone who says they follow the way of Christ but are not like him at all. And I have had more patience with you and will have more patience with you. Until you walk away or you get it what it is to be in Christ and He in you as one.

And heck no, I do not pray for patience, I learned from experience not to do that, because I did that once and all hell broke loose and I learned patience.

 

[cronjecj]

Yeah, I had intended to stay away from here for a reason, guess I should have listened to the voice telling me not to come back.

Parting words: If you're not lifting up Jesus Christ HIMSELF (not Jesus IN us or some variation thereof), then you're not preaching the True Gospel, and you'll have to face the consequences of that.

I'm outta here.

Lets fight him with the word of God sister. Sometimes we will get weary of fighting but we are here to pick up each other.

We got plenty of brothers and sisters on our side like AnandaHya and Abiding who will help us in never to give up to stop heresies invading the body of Christ.

Love,

in Christ.

 

[Snackersmom]

Gary, there is no more CONDEMNATION in us now that we have Jesus, but that does not mean that we no longer sin. Worry may be my "thorn in the flesh", just as gluttony is yours. Jesus has helped me control my tendency to worry, just as He will help you control your eating. But saying that you no longer sin makes you a hypocrite.

 

[GaryMac]

Mary and Joseph did not have communion together in order for the birth of Jesus.

Jesus was born literally from a virgin, the 1st time ever and the last.

Was this not the son of Joseph and Mary? Was not Jesus made of a woman born under the law as you and I? Was not Jesus son of man? Was Jesus not flesh and blood? Was Jesus flesh not abale to die and be buried?

 

[GaryMac]

Gary, there is no more CONDEMNATION in us now that we have Jesus, but that does not mean that we no longer sin. Worry may be my "thorn in the flesh", just as gluttony is yours. Jesus has helped me control my tendency to worry, just as He will help you control your eating. But saying that you no longer sin makes you a hypocrite.

There is no condemnation to those who are in Christ. And in Christ there is no sin at all, it is outside Christ that you are a sinner.

gluttony? gosh im 6 ft 180 lbs, what would you want of me skin and bones? LOL.

But saying you are a sinner is to deny the one who came to take away your sin. Saying sorry God you cant take away my sin is a direct slap in the face of the one who came and does take away your sin.

Tell me, How did Christ fail to take away your sin when that is the reason He was sent?

 

[Snackersmom]

Don't let him make you feel bad...he isn't really singling you out, because he doesn't like or love anyone, it's not just you.

Thanks, MissCris, but the sad face was for Gary, not me. I feel GREAT!