Christ is God

garee · Feb 13, 2020

Greater position as head not greater person .The work of two as the labor of one..

I would offer. God is not a man as us and neither is there any daysman as fleshly, infallible umpire that stands between God not seen, and man seen.

When accused of that (daysman, fleshly Master) Jesus refused to stand in the holy unseen place of the glory of God .And said : one is our Good master God, in respect to the Father not seen

.We walk by faith the unseen eternal, not after corrupted flesh and blood of mankind .

Job9:32-33 For he is not a man, as I am, that I should answer him, and we should come together in judgment. Neither is there any daysman betwixt us, that might lay his hand upon us both

Luke 18:17-19 King James Version (KJV) Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child shall in no wise enter therein.And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.

The eternal Spirit of Christ is the anointing, teaching, comforting. The Holy Spirit of God. The Spirit of Christ . God is not a man as us.

We walk by faith the unseen eternal.

Christ as eternal Spirit does not have flesh and blood. The unseen Spirit of Christ for 33 years dwelt in his body signified as sinful (earthen vessels) like ours in 2 Corinthians 4:7. No difference that which is of flesh is flesh and that which is of Spirit the unseen is Spirit.

No holiness of the powerless flesh. The power comes from the holiness of the one Spirit( Romans 1:3-5) The flesh profits for nothing just as Jesus did say . Many disciple walked away in unbelief (no faith)

Romans 1:3-5 King James Version (KJV) Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead: By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name:

The essence of Spirit life was not of his corrupted flesh that aged as in the death penalty. Which is the wrath of God being revealed from heaven .

Our Father in heaven's eternal Spirit dwelt in the Son of man, Jesus. Like it does with our earthen bodies of death. But he knew no sin.The difference

2 Corinthians 4:7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.

In the last days He spoke directly through the Son who was without sin. Used his life as a living parable. Beginning without sin made it possible for the Son of man to be used directly. .It was not possible with the other prophets .They knew sin from birth .

Again as a parable. The temporal seen working together with the unseen like in Mathew 4 at the beginning of his ministry . The Son of man, Jesus sent as the High apostle was sent by the father into the wilderness to represent our scapegoat, He had not eaten 40 days the time of testing. . And as a lying wonder the father of lies taking advantage of he weakened condition brought a illusion to the mind fleshly of Jesus. Or what some call a vision or out of the body experience.

Three time the Father put his words on the lips of Jesus and the Son said as it is written, again and again . Strike three the spirit of lies, the devil departed . The father and Son having worked together . . . they could rest as one.

Hebrews 1:1-2 King James Version (KJV)God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

There is no power of the flesh. Jesus says it profits for nothing, zero.. Many disciples walked away (faithless)

God uses two immutable attributes to reveal the government of His peace that does surpass our understanding giving us a ling hope above all human hope .

But again he is not a man as us. He remains without beginning of days or end of Spirit life,

The father is in a greater position as the loving authority than that of the position of the Sons willingly submissive. The peace of God is in respect to two attributes. Two as one . Can't have one without the other,

Dino246 · Feb 13, 2020

garee said:

It is amazing that you continue to post this garbage after being corrected so many times.

garee said:

It's not a parable. I've corrected you on this matter many times as well, but you have refused to accept the correction.

garee said:

More repeatedly-corrected error.

OneOfHis · Feb 13, 2020

Alertandawake said:

"O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was."

John 17 is one of many.

Noose · Feb 13, 2020

OneOfHis said:

No it doesn't, just one of many misunderstandings.

dcontroversal · Feb 13, 2020

eternally-gratefull said:

just so you know. You just lost all forms of credibility

How can you say I did not spell it out?

Post 1306

for the second time

isaiah 48
Listen to Me, O Jacob,
And Israel, My called:
I am He, I am the First,
I am also the Last. (alpha and Omega)
13 Indeed My hand has laid the foundation of the earth,
And My right hand has stretched out the heavens;
When I call to them,
They stand up together.
14 “All of you, assemble yourselves, and hear!
Who among them has declared these things?
The Lord loves him;
He shall do His pleasure on Babylon,
And His arm shall be against the Chaldeans.
15 I, even I, have spoken;
Yes, I have called him,
I have brought him, and his way will prosper.
16 “Come near to Me, hear this:
I have not spoken in secret from the beginning;
From the time that it was, I was there.
And now the Lord God and His Spirit
[c]Have sent Me.”
17 Thus says the Lord, your Redeemer,
The Holy One of Israel:
“I am the Lord your God,
Who teaches you to profit,
Who leads you by the way you should go.
18 Oh, that you had heeded My commandments!

The bolded parts are who "me" Is

it says plainly in vs 16 he was sent by the father and the spirit?

But I guess since reading must be difficult for you let’s get even deeper

HE is He
He is the first and the last (alpha and Omega)
He laid the foundations of the earth
His hand stretched out the heavens and when he calls they stand together
He is the Redeemer
He is the holy one of Israel
He is the Lord Your God
He teaches, He leads
and He gave the commandments

again as vs 16 says, He was sent by the Father and his Spirit

now who is it the one who really is unwilling to discuss?

yeah it’s not me..

three times now. Will you still totally side step the passage?

I love those verses.......such power.....to lay the foundation of the earth and stretch out the heavens....He alone is GOD and there is NO OTHER....and to WHOM shall we liken HIM to.....NO ONE.............

garee · Feb 13, 2020

OneOfHis said:

The glory which he had before the world is not of the flesh of Christ as the Son of man . God is not a man as us. The glory is in respect to the Son of God not seen our high priest continually..

Dino246 · Feb 13, 2020

garee said:

Jesus, the Son of Man, IS Jesus, the Son of God.

garee · Feb 14, 2020

Dino246 said:

Jesus simply means savior. It does not mean flesh and blood.

God is not a man as us and neither is there any daysman or fleshly mediator as a infallible Master that stands between our Father (God) the unseen Master and mankind seen The Son of an Jesus refused to be called Good Master as If God was a man as us.He would not stand in that holy place reserved as the one source of Christian faith. But said one is Good God.

Jesus as the Son of man ( human corrupted flesh and blood) is powerless. Salvation is not reckoned from the birth of the Son of man ,"what the eyes see the temporal.

Its easy to remember. No holiness or anointing work of God working in us according the what the eyes see .flesh and blood

Romans 1:3-5 King James Version (KJV) Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead: By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name :Jesus as the Son of God not seen is equipped with the power from the father God the breath of spirit life.

. The one time demonstration of the work of the unseen father working with the Son of man fleshly body of death is over. One demonstration of the lamb that was slain from the foundation of the world is all that is promised . We know him not that way .

2 Corinthians 5:16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.

Rather than looking outside work with the Spirit of Christ that works from within .Just as the Son of man jesus. God remains without beginning of Spirit life or end of it. No fleshly God. learn how to walk by faith.

Dino246 · Feb 14, 2020

garee said:

And? Nobody is arguing that the name "Jesus" means "flesh and blood". However, Jesus the Son of God did have literal flesh and blood.

garee said:

I haven't claimed that God is a man, nor has anyone else here, but you keep harping on this point as though it's relevant. It isn't.
God is not a man, but Jesus is both God and man.

garee said:

Wrong. 1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus...

garee said:

Wrong. Refuted repeatedly.

garee said:

Wrong. Refuted repeatedly.

garee said:

Wrong. He did not have "corrupted flesh and blood", and He is not powerless.

garee said:

Irrelevant blather.

garee said:

Meaningless word salad.

posthuman · Feb 16, 2020

The LORD has made all for Himself,

yes, even the wicked for the day of doom.
(Proverbs 16:4)

He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist.
(Colossians 1:15-17)

all things are made by the LORD for the LORD
all things are made by the Son for the Son

→ Christ is God

Noose · Feb 16, 2020

posthuman said:

I used to think so, not anymore, this is not evidence but rather a misunderstanding.

The first world was created through Adam for God creates through the mind of a man. The new world is created through the second Adam (Jesus).

posthuman · Feb 16, 2020

Noose said:

you cannot know The Truth while you blaspheme the scripture and believe the opposite of what it says.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
He was in the beginning with God.
All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.
(John 1:1-3)

Noose · Feb 16, 2020

posthuman said:

Isa 43:
18“Do not call to mind the former things;
pay no attention to the things of old.
19Behold, I am about to do something new;
even now it is coming. Do you not see it?

2 Corinthians 5:17
Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away. Behold, the new has come!

Second Adam = a new thing

Forget about the former.

garee · Feb 16, 2020

Well what kind of flesh and blood did he have seeing it aged like all bodies of death? The book of Roman declares it is powerless .Jesus said it profits for nothing. Where is your support?

Dino246 · Feb 16, 2020

garee said:

He grew up, from infant to child to adolescent to man, according to the design God put in the human body. Nothing in Scripture suggests that His body "aged" in any "corrupt" way. Further, nothing in Scripture suggests that He was in any way corrupt. If His body were corrupt in any way, it would not have been an acceptable sacrifice for sin. In the Torah, every animal offered had to be be unblemished... without corruption.

posthuman · Feb 24, 2020

Open to me the gates of righteousness;

I will go through them,

and I will praise the LORD!

This is the gate of the LORD,

through which the righteous shall enter:

I will praise You,

for You have answered me,

and have become my salvation!

The Stone which the builders rejected

has become the Chief Cornerstone.

This was the LORD’s doing;

it is marvelous in our eyes!

This is the day the LORD has made;

we will rejoice and be glad in it.

(Psalm 118:19-24)

this section of the song is describing 'the gate of the LORD'

I AM the door.

If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture.

(John 10:9)

He is The Door -- The Gate

in the center of this is something which is "marvelous" - which is "the LORD's doing"
two things which have become:
the psalmist says to the LORD, You have become my Salvation.
the psalmist says, the Stone rejected by the builders has become the Chief Cornerstone

this diptych is in the explanation of The Gate of the LORD:

the LORD is become Salvation

the rejected Stone is become the Cornerstone

put these things together; Christ is the Gate, Christ is the Stone that was rejected, Christ is our Salvation, Christ is become the Chief Cornerstone. and this Gate is the Gate of the LORD; this Salvation is the LORD - the LORD who was rejected, the LORD who is the Chief Cornerstone.

this is called, "marvelous in our eyes" -- it isn't 'simple' or 'ordinary' and it isn't easily comprehended; it produces praise when it's apprehended, rejoicing and gladness
"the LORD's doing" -- this marvelous thing is 'the day' the LORD has made; this gate, this Way

let us enter in with thanksgiving and praise!

posthuman · Mar 14, 2020

Nathanael answered and said to Him,
“Rabbi, You are the Son of God! You are the King of Israel!”
(John 1:49)

Rabbi
- the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things -- John 14:26
Son of God
- the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth -- John 1:14
The King of Israel
- YHVH, the King of Israel -- Isaiah 44:6

Nathanael declares Jesus:
- The Spirit
- The Son
- The Father

GracethroughfaithinChrist · Mar 15, 2020

It is quite definitive, and has been said here and elsewhere many times.......

Psalm 45:6-7
Your throne, O God, is forever and ever;
A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom.
7You love righteousness and hate wickedness;
Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You
With the oil of gladness more than Your companions.

Hebrews 1:8-9
But to the Son He says:

“Your throne, O God, is forever and ever;
A [f]scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom.
9You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness;
Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You
With the oil of gladness more than Your companions.”

posthuman · Mar 17, 2020

to the Son He says:

“Your throne, O God, is forever and ever"
(Hebrews 1:8)

God calls Christ "God"

posthuman · Apr 10, 2020

Who is there to harm you if you prove zealous for what is good? But even if you should suffer for the sake of righteousness, you are blessed. And do not fear their intimidation, and do not be troubled, but sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts
(1 Peter 3:13-15)

Peter is quoting Isaiah 8 --

Say ye not, a confederacy, to all them to whom this people shall say, a confederacy; neither fear ye their fear, nor be afraid.

Sanctify the LORD of Hosts Himself; and let Him be your fear, and let Him be your dread.
(Isaiah 8:12-13)

Peter is citing Isaiah 8, saying, do not fear their fear, but he makes one extraordinary addition to the text.
where Isaiah says, 'sanctify YHWH of Hosts' -- Peter says, sanctify Christ as the LORD.

Peter is identifying 'the Lord Jesus' as the LORD God -- identifying Christ as God

Christ is God

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