to be fair I will admit since I have been on this discussion board I have not read this specific Psalm also to be fair I will read it later today I just havnt token the time as I understand this is a long one lol(JK but really Ive just been responding at whim going in and out not really staying on here for long periods of time) but on the same note why would brining up the church fathers be problematic I mean historically they were the disciples of the disciples basically a chain of disciples going down to the modern day I have no clue why someone such as say St. Ignatius of Antioch or St. Polycarp would intend to lie about church teachings when they were both contemparies of St. John the apostle who as we know was Christ's apostle I mean this actually raises a question "if apostolic authority isn't reliable on matters of tradition and interpretation and scripture than what is?" I mean if that were the case I would have a hard time following Christianity at all as it would seem rather strange for second generation disciples to make up garbage when they are learning from people that learning directly from the incarnation of God himself
Good for you! You sed quotation marks correctly, and the question mark. Now, notice you wrote 9 lines, and there is not a period (not including the period for abbreviation!) once!
Nine lines all compressed into small space meaning, it is impossible to read. So, paragraphs and periods and commas! As someone used to say, "More white space!" I think that was another forum, perhaps?
So, here it is, cleaned up a bit.
To be fair, I will admit since I have been on this discussion board, I have not read this specific Psalm. Also, to be fair, I will read it later today!
I just haven't taken the time as I understand this is a long one! lol (JK But really, I've just been responding at whim! Going in and out, not really staying on here for long periods of time) But, on the same note, why would bringing up the church fathers be problematic?
I mean, historically, they were the disciples of the disciples! Basically, a chain of disciples coming down to the modern day! I have no clue why someone such as say St. Ignatius of Antioch or St. Polycarp would intend to lie about church teachings, when they were both contemparies of St. John the apostle! We know St. John was Christ's apostle!
I mean, this actually raises a question "If apostolic authority isn't reliable on matters of tradition and interpretation and scripture, then what is?" I mean, if that were the case, I would have a hard time following Christianity at all! It would seem rather strange for second generation disciples to make up garbage, when they are learning from people that learning directly from the incarnation of God himself[
Also, apostrophes, which is the setting aside of a small phrase, such as "I mean" or "to be fair." As above!
As to your comments, have you never played the telephone game? Usually a birthday parties, someone starts with a phrase, and whispers it to the person next to them. They whisper to the person next to them, and so on, till it gets back around the table to the last person. They say what was whispered to them. So, you might start with "Power Rangers," and end with "Baby in a Manger." So, no! The "chain" is always broken, and most of the time, not intentionally. Although where money and things like indulgences are concerned, probably intentionally!
Word of mouth, which is all most people had up till the invention of the printing press, was all people had. They might have heard it wrong, or communicated it wrong. They might have added something. This is a big issue in the Byzantine manuscripts. There were a multitude of copyists mistakes, which over 14 centuries or so, added up, so the last Greek manuscripts were utterly corrupted.
There is an early church manuscript called the Didache. It is a good thing to read, not for doctrine, but to see how this early manuscript deviates from the Bible, only one century later. We translated three of the chapters in Greek class. Some of it was straight from the Bible, but some was not in the Bible at all. For instance, a traveling evangelist who asked for money, was considered a false prophet. That is not in the Bible, although our class and professor agreed it would be a good thing. LOL
So, perhaps I write that comment here, and then someone tells someone else, they read that the Bible says any evangelist who asks for money is a false prophet. They tell someone else, the next thing you know, a church is formed, books written, and it is not in the Bible. It is made up, not inspired. It may have even been valuable for the early church. But, certainly not a command from God.
And finally, the point, is that - if people were Biblically literate, they would know that there is no prohibition against paying evangelists. That is not opinion, it is the truth. Yet, the church could easily have adopted this idea, codified it and said it is inspired, and made it a church tradition. That is the problem with the Catholic church. That has happened for 16 centuries, and the common people were purposely barred from reading the Bible, so they could not discern what were the real words written by the apostles were, and compare them to church doctrine, which had gone totally away from the Bible.
And you, my friend, besides needing to improve your reading skills, also need to read the whole Bible through. The fact that you have not read Psalm 119, says to me that you have barely touched the Bible. Until you have completed that, once, but more likely 10 or 20, or 50 times, like me, your comments are totally invalid. You will believe these corrupted Catholic traditions your whole life, until you actually read the Bible and find out they are not written there, and many of them directly contradict the Bible. I won't go into examples of this dreadful corruption, as there are whole threads written here on this issue.
PS. Psalm 119 is the longest chapter in the Bible. It is an acrostic poem, meaning each line of each stanza starts with a succeeding letter of the Hebrew alphabet, which has 22 letters. So, likely, you will not get through it today. If you had read the Bible, you would realize that!