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Like I said, give me an accurate weather report as to when it started snowing that year, and I will tell you how close to the actual date Dec. 25 really is. It was before the grasses were covered with snow, or the shepherds would not have been out in the field with their sheep. Right now I guarantee you, the sheep are in corrals, near Bethlehem. Snowstorm brings havoc and hardship across Middle East | Weather | The Guardian
constantine incorporating bablonian sun worship is the reason DEC is celebrated as christmas, the day may not matter too much, but the way one celebrates does, since when is it ok to take on demon worship rituals?
So are you saying it is ok to celebrate Babylonian rituals just as long as one doesnt think about it and does it to the Messiah and the Father?
I wonder how they feel about that?
Deuteronomy 12:29:32, “When Yahweh your Father cuts off the nations from in front of you, and you displace them and live in their land, Be careful not to be ensnared into following them by asking about their gods, saying: How did these nations serve their gods? I also will do the same. You must not worship Yahweh your Father in their way, for every abomination to Yahweh, which He hates, they have done to their gods. They even burn their sons and daughters in the fire as sacrifices to their gods. Whatsoever I command you, be careful to observe and do it, you shall not add to it, nor take away from it."
constantine incorporating bablonian sun worship is the reason DEC is celebrated as christmas, the day may not matter too much, but the way one celebrates does, since when is it ok to take on demon worship rituals?
So are you saying it is ok to celebrate Babylonian rituals just as long as one doesnt think about it and does it to the Messiah and the Father?
I wonder how they feel about that?
Deuteronomy 12:29:32, “When Yahweh your Father cuts off the nations from in front of you, and you displace them and live in their land, Be careful not to be ensnared into following them by asking about their gods, saying: How did these nations serve their gods? I also will do the same. You must not worship Yahweh your Father in their way, for every abomination to Yahweh, which He hates, they have done to their gods. They even burn their sons and daughters in the fire as sacrifices to their gods. Whatsoever I command you, be careful to observe and do it, you shall not add to it, nor take away from it."
NO, the only thing that is being celebrated is WHAT IS IN YOUR HEART. Just like, IT IS NOT TAKING UP SPACE ON A PEW that constitutes WORSHIP, it is what is going on in your HEART.
THAT IS THE WAY OF THE HOLY TRINITY.
As for the Christmas Season, PRAISE THE LORD FOR IT!
Fewer people are screaming "Separation of Church and State, you can't talk about Jesus here."; so PRAISE THE LORD FOR IT!
MORE unsaved people hear about JESUS during the Christmas Season than any other time, so PRAISE THE LORD FOR IT!
We are following PAUL's example, that we might save some; shame on you for preaching against it.
1 Corinthians 9:19-22 (NKJV)
[SUP]19 [/SUP] For though I am free from all men, I have made myself a servant to all, that I might win the more;
[SUP]20 [/SUP] and to the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might win Jews; to those who are under the law, as under the law, that I might win those who are under the law;
[SUP]21 [/SUP] to those who are without law, as without law (not being without law toward God, but under law toward Christ), that I might win those who are without law;
[SUP]22 [/SUP] to the weak I became as weak, that I might win the weak.
I have become all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.
Why are you NOT trying all the harder to lead the unsaved to come to KNOW HIM during this Season? GOD has handed you this Season as an opportunity to explain to the unsaved who JESUS CHRIST IS, and most of them will not listen to you any other time of the year. Instead you yell and scream you are practicing paganism by participating in Christmas, driving the unsaved further from Christ than they ever have been.
PRAISE THE LORD FOR THE CHRISTMAS SEASON, LIKE PAUL, WE SEE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAVE SOME OF THE LOST.
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I am trying, but those who claim to know Him keep telling me its ok to celebrate babylon and use babylon to preach through.
I will preach Messiah, but I will do it in truth, you see Yah did not give man Dec 25 to preach the Messiah, satan gave it in lies through Constantine. Yah gave 7 Holy Days that this winter solstice is an opponent to.
But Scripture says the APPOINTED TIMES would be changed, and eveybody would wonder after the beast.
Daniyl 7:25, "And he will speak great words against Yahweh, and will wear out; mentally attack to cause to fall away, the saints of Yahweh, and think to change times and Laws..."
"Times" is word # 2166 - Hebrew Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar - 1) a set time, time, season
Aramaic equivalent of "moadim"
Daniyl 8:12, "And a host was given him against the daily by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practiced, and succeeded."
Revelation 13:3, "...and all the world wondered; (followed), after the beast."
Deuteronomy 12:29:32, "You must not worship Yahweh your Father in their way."
Mattithyah 7:21-23, "Not everyone who says to Me; Teacher! Teacher! will enter into the Kingdom of Yahweh, but only he who does the will of My Father Who is in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day; Teacher! Teacher! Have we not prophesied in Your Name, and cast out demons in Your Name, and in Your Name performed many wonderful works? But then I will declare to them; I never knew you. Get away from Me, you who practice iniquity."
Why are they told get away?
Because they chose their own way and did not submit to Yahweh's way:
Iniquity is Word #458 from word #459, Greek Dictionary, Strong's Exhaustive Concordance, meaning not subject to (Yahweh's) Laws, transgressor.
Deuteronomy 12:29:32, "You must not worship Yahweh your Father in their way."
I will preach Messiah, but I will do it in truth, you see Yah did not give man Dec 25 to preach the Messiah, satan gave it in lies through Constantine. Yah gave 7 Holy Days that this winter solstice is an opponent to.
But Scripture says the APPOINTED TIMES would be changed, and eveybody would wonder after the beast.
Daniyl 7:25, "And he will speak great words against Yahweh, and will wear out; mentally attack to cause to fall away, the saints of Yahweh, and think to change times and Laws..."
"Times" is word # 2166 - Hebrew Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar - 1) a set time, time, season
Aramaic equivalent of "moadim"
Daniyl 8:12, "And a host was given him against the daily by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practiced, and succeeded."
Revelation 13:3, "...and all the world wondered; (followed), after the beast."
Deuteronomy 12:29:32, "You must not worship Yahweh your Father in their way."
Mattithyah 7:21-23, "Not everyone who says to Me; Teacher! Teacher! will enter into the Kingdom of Yahweh, but only he who does the will of My Father Who is in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day; Teacher! Teacher! Have we not prophesied in Your Name, and cast out demons in Your Name, and in Your Name performed many wonderful works? But then I will declare to them; I never knew you. Get away from Me, you who practice iniquity."
Why are they told get away?
Because they chose their own way and did not submit to Yahweh's way:
Iniquity is Word #458 from word #459, Greek Dictionary, Strong's Exhaustive Concordance, meaning not subject to (Yahweh's) Laws, transgressor.
Deuteronomy 12:29:32, "You must not worship Yahweh your Father in their way."
I will not compromise with paganism, I dont need paganism authored by satan to share Messiah.
Yahchanan (John) 5:14, Afterward, Yahshua found him in the sacred precincts and said to him: Behold, you are healed. Sin no more, or a worse thing will come upon you.
Deuteronomy 12:29:32, "You must not worship Yahweh your Father in their way."
Can someone even acknowledge this verse? Or does nobody care about what the One who decides if we enter the kingdom or not thinks?
Yahchanan (John) 5:14, Afterward, Yahshua found him in the sacred precincts and said to him: Behold, you are healed. Sin no more, or a worse thing will come upon you.
Deuteronomy 12:29:32, "You must not worship Yahweh your Father in their way."
Can someone even acknowledge this verse? Or does nobody care about what the One who decides if we enter the kingdom or not thinks?
Christmas as a birth of Jesus is a tradition that Christian should not teach.
1. Jesus was not born during Winter. - it is difficult to travel during winter...(Mary and Joseph went to Bethlehem for census)
2. December 25 was the birth of a Pagan god.
so Basically If your Jesus was born on Dec 25, Your Jesus is not the true Jesus and you are worshipping a false Father (God).
But Christian are not prohibited to give gifts either.
So, Is it possible for Christian not to celebrate Christmas and still give gifts?
1. Jesus was not born during Winter. - it is difficult to travel during winter...(Mary and Joseph went to Bethlehem for census)
2. December 25 was the birth of a Pagan god.
so Basically If your Jesus was born on Dec 25, Your Jesus is not the true Jesus and you are worshipping a false Father (God).
But Christian are not prohibited to give gifts either.
So, Is it possible for Christian not to celebrate Christmas and still give gifts?
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That's what I was thinking. I mean, what's with this "celebration" business anyway? Idols are nothing anyway.
If I put up a tree, decorate it with lights then I might be doing it just because I like to have a decorated tree once in a while?
I should imagine that most people do not in fact do obeisance to Asherah, the Christmas tree idol, although I have to say, my mother always used to put a fairy atop the tree that I never asked any questions about.
Jeremiah says "For the customs of the peoples are worthless."
Christmas is a pretty worthless custom, but if it keeps the peace, then that must be better than family strife.
If I put up a tree, decorate it with lights then I might be doing it just because I like to have a decorated tree once in a while?
I should imagine that most people do not in fact do obeisance to Asherah, the Christmas tree idol, although I have to say, my mother always used to put a fairy atop the tree that I never asked any questions about.
Jeremiah says "For the customs of the peoples are worthless."
Christmas is a pretty worthless custom, but if it keeps the peace, then that must be better than family strife.
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You are totally mistaken, we do not celebrate Babylon, Our entire focus and motive is on Jesus Christ, and the Good News that GOD created the baby in Mary's womb so that part of HIMSELF could enter that body, live a sinless life, and then die as the Ultimate Sacrifice for the sins of the World. THAT is what all of us genuine Christians are Celebrating at Christmas. I am 64 years old, and NOT ONE TIME in all those times did anything about the Babylonian religions ever cross my mind while I was celebrating any of those Christmas's. You seem to be the ONLY one thinking about those Babylonian religions, and all because you have a phobia about the date that Constantine chose. And I am quite sure that Constantine understood what Paul said, and that was HIS motive too; therefore it HAD NOTHING to do with Babylonian religions either.
1 Corinthians 9:19-22 (NKJV)
[SUP]19 [/SUP]For though I am free from all men, I have made myself a servant to all, that I might win the more;
[SUP]20 [/SUP]and to the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might win Jews; to those who are under the law, as under the law, that I might win those who are under the law;
[SUP]21 [/SUP]to those who are without law, as without law (not being without law toward God, but under law toward Christ), that I might win those who are without law;
[SUP]22 [/SUP]to the weak I became as weak, that I might win the weak.
I have become all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.