Churches of Christ with or without instruments, which is the right way to worship?

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Poor Pikachu. Always a controversial character.
Meh. When you've been lost or lead completely the wrong way a long time, you tend to raise or ask about points that nobody cares to answer or explain, they just run you off elsewhere, from my experience anyway. Maybe that's why there's so few Christians nowadays.
 

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What I missed was the Scripture backing of what you're saying. I think if you're going to say "there's biblical evidence", you should probably cite it. That's not debate, that's called adding credibility to a statement.
I plainly stated I will not get in a debate about this. The topic has been discussed in this thread, and there are multiple threads about it in this forum. You can look them up. If I refuse to get in a debate over something then one should respect that. I have been in those debates before. Theyre not edifying, and they're not kind and loving. Study it on your own. k?
 

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Meh. When you've been lost or lead completely the wrong way a long time, you tend to raise or ask about points that nobody cares to answer or explain, they just run you off elsewhere, from my experience anyway. Maybe that's why there's so few Christians nowadays.
Like I said... this debate leads to condemnations that no one has the authority to give. You just proved my point.
 
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In a manner of speaking, ChristianGamer, you're correct. Many people who asked questions of the Christian faith as children and teenagers, didn't receive insightful answers from their pastor, parents, teachers etc., so they learned to doubt the Bible at the deepest level. Many of those people are now atheists and despise Christ and His Church. It's very sad.

Bless you, brother.
 
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Like I said... this debate leads to condemnations that no one has the authority to give. You just proved my point.
You've proven mine. You've still added no credibility to your statement. Nobody asked you to debate a thing. I asked you to cite a source, to which you are telling me there's no need to back up what you say because you don't want to debate it or can't be bothered to even explain it.
 
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You've proven mine. You've still added no credibility to your statement. Nobody asked you to debate a thing. I asked you to cite a source, to which you are telling me there's no need to back up what you say because you don't want to debate it or can't be bothered to even explain it.
Ah, ChristianGamer. I'd just let her be.
 

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You've proven mine. You've still added no credibility to your statement. Nobody asked you to debate a thing. I asked you to cite a source, to which you are telling me there's no need to back up what you say because you don't want to debate it or can't be bothered to even explain it.
My source is the bible. It mentions gifts will cease. 1 Cor 13 is one passage you can read.
 
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now watch him try to debate it. though I said over and over again I will not.
Nope, I won't be debating it as I said just as many times as you said you didn't want to. I asked for you to cite your source so that someone may be able to follow your train of thought. In case you never noticed, the Bible is a large book containing many other books, so when you tell someone where to look for something in it, generally they'll then be able to begin to efficiently do that. I thank you for pointing that source out to me despite your blatant rudeness about it.
 
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now watch him try to debate it. though I said over and over again I will not.
Please, just let him be. He's not your enemy. He's actually trying to learn more about the Christian faith. I know there are people who've challenged you at every turn but I don't think ChristianGamer is one of those.
 

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Nope, I won't be debating it as I said just as many times as you said you didn't want to. I asked for you to cite your source so that someone may be able to follow your train of thought. In case you never noticed, the Bible is a large book containing many other books, so when you tell someone where to look for something in it, generally they'll then be able to begin to efficiently do that. I thank you for pointing that source out to me despite your blatant rudeness about it.
And I encouraged you to study on your own instead of listening to others. Which is what we should all do.
I mean, we are i na thread that pretty much says "if you dont worship how I do then you go to Hell.".
I just wanted you to understand that I am not like that
 

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Please, just let him be. He's not your enemy. He's actually trying to learn more about the Christian faith. I know there are people who've challenged you at every turn but I don't think ChristianGamer is one of those.
I dont need a mediator. but thanks
 
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And I encouraged you to study on your own instead of listening to others. Which is what we should all do.
I mean, we are i na thread that pretty much says "if you dont worship how I do then you go to Hell.".
I just wanted you to understand that I am not like that
I asked you for where it was at, so that I may study it for myself instead of listening to others. For someone who doesn't want to debate, you're sure doing a lot of it.
 

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I asked you for where it was at, so that I may study it for myself instead of listening to others. For someone who doesn't want to debate, you're sure doing a lot of it.
Why are you still talking to me and not studying?
You do like controversy, don't you?
 
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Why are you still talking to me and not studying?
You do like controversy, don't you?
I'm still talking to you because you're still talking to me. That's how conversation works. Though I'm quite done with it now. Thanks again. Goodbye.
 
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So it was a convenience factor, one of such importance that any church that has the means to afford instruments is hell bound?

No, I think if it can lead to spiritual death, there is a far better reason than that.
I was repeating not what I said, but what the person I was responding said, you'll notice in the reply above where it says, " as what you have said " As far as what I said I believe it to be as I have said in many replies I have already made on here, and that being he done it to be as close spiritually to his creation as he could get, and that being singing only, because instruments are man made, and adding instruments takes away from the spiritual closeness of just having creator and his creation, that's what I say to be a reason for singing only.. If only you would've read the part where it said, " as what you have said" you wouldn't of made the mistake of it being me that said it.
 
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Some say the thread says if you don't worship like me you're going to hell, well, that's true. If one doesn't worship as God says , which means being a member of the church that Christ built, then yes there will be consequences. I am saying the true church of the bible is the Church of Christ, which I have said from the beginning. If you say you don't believe like this and you say you're a member of the Church of Christ , then you're not believing what God says. There is but one church, not two different churches, that would be considered God having more that one way he wants people to worship, and he doesn't, just one way. Why would God cause division when he believes in unity. There is one God, and one way to worship, that's all there is.
 
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So you believe in miracles, go to the cemetery and start raising the dead. You believe in laying on of the hands, then heal everybody, and don't say that the one being healed doesn't have enough faith, because it's the one doing the healing that has to have the gift of healing, which is only given by the Apostles to be able to do anything in regards to these gifts, which were given to the Apostles to complete the ministry of Jesus Christ.
 
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