Churches of Christ with or without instruments, which is the right way to worship?
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actually, reading Numbers 12, God didn't punish Miriam for "claiming to be a prophetess" -- He punished her for speaking against Moses.
(not for dancing and praising God with timbrels and song either, goodness, how did God miss that?).
Miriam and Aaron began to talk against Moses because of his Cushite wife, for he had married a Cushite. “Has the Lord spoken only through Moses?” they asked. “Hasn’t he also spoken through us?” And the Lord heard this.
(Numbers 12:1-2)
the Lord didn't rebuke her for prophesying - or playing a tambourine - He rebuked her and Aaron for gossiping about Moses' Cushite wife, and reprimanded her saying that Moses was greater than prophets, because He spoke face-to-face with Moses, but not so with Aaron or Miriam.
he said, “Listen to my words:
the Word of God calls her a prophet in Exodus 15:20, and here in Numbers God doesn't contradict it. you are right though that it is more convenient for your argument if Miriam is demonized, since she praised God with a tambourine in her hand.
(not for dancing and praising God with timbrels and song either, goodness, how did God miss that?).
Miriam and Aaron began to talk against Moses because of his Cushite wife, for he had married a Cushite. “Has the Lord spoken only through Moses?” they asked. “Hasn’t he also spoken through us?” And the Lord heard this.
(Numbers 12:1-2)
the Lord didn't rebuke her for prophesying - or playing a tambourine - He rebuked her and Aaron for gossiping about Moses' Cushite wife, and reprimanded her saying that Moses was greater than prophets, because He spoke face-to-face with Moses, but not so with Aaron or Miriam.
he said, “Listen to my words:
“When there is a prophet among you,
I, the Lord, reveal myself to them in visions,
I speak to them in dreams.
But this is not true of my servant Moses;
he is faithful in all my house.
With him I speak face to face,
clearly and not in riddles;
he sees the form of the Lord.
Why then were you not afraid
to speak against my servant Moses?”
(Numbers 12:6-8)I, the Lord, reveal myself to them in visions,
I speak to them in dreams.
But this is not true of my servant Moses;
he is faithful in all my house.
With him I speak face to face,
clearly and not in riddles;
he sees the form of the Lord.
Why then were you not afraid
to speak against my servant Moses?”
the Word of God calls her a prophet in Exodus 15:20, and here in Numbers God doesn't contradict it. you are right though that it is more convenient for your argument if Miriam is demonized, since she praised God with a tambourine in her hand.
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I do show Christian compassion and understanding. I was not rude. I was point blank in the truth of the Word of God the Bible when it refers to the Gifts of the Holy Spirit which are strong and active to this day. As well as how those individuals who deny that should study their Bible and learn the truth.
I wonder how many times Jesus and the apostles said "get it through your brain!!!"
As a matter of fact many people have read their bible and have found evidence of the cessation of gifts. You can disagree. Makes no difference to me, but this is also a matter of interpretation. This is also not a salvation issue. It normally turns into a hateful debate when people are accused of not having faith if they have no "gifts". Comments like that is a condemnation no one has the authority to give but God
As a matter of fact many people have read their bible and have found evidence of the cessation of gifts. You can disagree. Makes no difference to me, but this is also a matter of interpretation. This is also not a salvation issue. It normally turns into a hateful debate when people are accused of not having faith if they have no "gifts". Comments like that is a condemnation no one has the authority to give but God
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