Closing the Gap in Dispensationalism

[John146]

What's your proof on this?

So, this letter meant nothing to people at the time of Peter?

It was written to some future audience?

Sounds like typical dispensational exegesis

Who are the strangers in the last days? When are the last days?

 

[John146]

Here's some good notes from the NIV Biblical Theology Study Bible:

I’m sorry, but I can’t get past this.😂

 

[Diakonos]

What's your proof on this?

So, this letter meant nothing to people at the time of Peter?

It was written to some future audience?

Sounds like typical dispensational exegesis

"Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ,
To those who reside as aliens, scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia..."
(διασπορά-scattered)="Christians who live in dispersion in the world, far from their heavenly home". They are strangers and sojourners of the earth

 

[Dave-L]

The Jews kept the law by not doing anything. Just as you claim the same by not resisting. It's all works of the Law. You shall accept Christ = not resist = have no other Gods, before me.

 

[Diakonos]

The Jews kept the law by not doing anything. Just as you claim the same by not resisting. It's all works of the Law. You shall accept Christ = not resist = have no other Gods, before me.

Some did keep God's commandments and didn't fall because they didn't get proud about it

 

[John146]

The Jews kept the law by not doing anything.

This is a false statement. The opposite is true. Those who kept the law, lived by the law. It was all about doing the works of the law.

 

[Dave-L]

This is a false statement. The opposite is true. Those who kept the law, lived by the law. It was all about doing the works of the law.

Living by the law meant not stealing. Not murdering, not coveting, not bearing false witness...... Just like Arminians say we save ourselves by "not resisting". It's all law and zero grace.

 

[Dave-L]

Some did keep God's commandments and didn't fall because they didn't get proud about it

Only Jesus kept the commandments in the Sermon on the Mount.

 

[Diakonos]

Only Jesus kept the commandments in the Sermon on the Mount.

"I will multiply your descendants as the stars of heaven, and will give your descendants all these lands; and by your descendants all the nations of the earth shall be blessed; because Abraham obeyed Me and kept My charge, My commandments, My statutes and My laws.”
Like many other people in the Bible, Abraham was not perfect, but he did keep the God's commandments (in the spirit op the law). He who loves the Lord keeps His commandments. Keeping the The Royal Law is plenty sufficient to do well with God and people.

 

[Dave-L]

"I will multiply your descendants as the stars of heaven, and will give your descendants all these lands; and by your descendants all the nations of the earth shall be blessed; because Abraham obeyed Me and kept My charge, My commandments, My statutes and My laws.”
Like many other people in the Bible, Abraham was not perfect, but he did keep the God's commandments (in the spirit op the law). He who loves the Lord keeps His commandments. Keeping the The Royal Law is plenty sufficient to do well with God and people.

We (believers) are Israel and the wicked unbelievers cut off and placed under God's wrath.

 

[Nehemiah6]

How do you believe in the pre-trib rapture if you don't read books? The bible never mentions it.

The Bible mentions the pre-trib Rapture many times. Just because the word "rapture" is not in the English language Bible does not mean anything. This is an important Bible doctrine which you obviously have failed to see. That's what happens when people follow the doctrines of men.

 

[Dave-L]

The Bible mentions the pre-trib Rapture many times. Just because the word "rapture" is not in the English language Bible does not mean anything. This is an important Bible doctrine which you obviously have failed to see. That's what happens when people follow the doctrines of men.

Prove it.

 

[Diakonos]

Prove it.

Most people think the idea of a rapture is new, but actually there already have been 4.

 

[Dave-L]

Most people think the idea of a rapture is new, but actually there already have been 4.

Not in the sense of millions missing and planes with no pilots.

 

[Diakonos]

well of course not, planes didn't exist back then.
But it looked something like this."When they came up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord snatched Philip away; and the eunuch no longer saw him " -Acts 8:38

 

[Dave-L]

well of course not, planes didn't exist back then.
But it looked something like this."When they came up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord snatched Philip away; and the eunuch no longer saw him " -Acts 8:38

But he still had the same human body.

 

[Diakonos]

But he still had the same human body.

I never said he didn't

 

[Dave-L]

I never said he didn't

It's a weak analogy for the rapture on the last day.

 

[John146]

Living by the law meant not stealing. Not murdering, not coveting, not bearing false witness...... Just like Arminians say we save ourselves by "not resisting". It's all law and zero grace.

Keeping the law was walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord. Remember, the sacrificial system was part of the law.

Galatians 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

 

[Diakonos]

It's a weak analogy for the rapture on the last day.

Its a forceful catching up. The only difference is that God told us that the next one will be universal. "Behold I tell you a mystery, we will not all sleep"....and our resurrection happens at the universal rapture.