Confession of sin

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Dude. This seriously brought a tear to my eye. Thank you for sharing. My only success with this is to ruthlessly confess it to my pastors friends and wife. There are programs for your computer that will email your activity to an accountability partner. Greater is He that is in you than he that is in the world. When I am tempted I pray like this.....God, I love you and I give this struggle to you as my worship of you. Give me the strength to not act on this desire but to make you smile down on me as I have victory over it, in you.

Much love and blessings to you my friend.
I guess it was your turn to bring tears to my eyes.
 

p_rehbein

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I apologize for missing your point. Can you put it another way to help me understand?
In my opinion, we all have a "thorn" in the flesh we must deal with in this life..............HOW we deal with it is what is important. Yes, we need to recognize it, even confess it to God, and pray for the strength to resist it........this is very important.

However, we have a choice of how to deal with it.............if we choose to wallow in our fleshy lusts, desires, remain chained to their sinfulness, then we can hardly claim "victory" over them can we..............rather than choosing to remain servant to those lusts/desires, we must give them to God and struggle daily to be victorious over them.........Paul prayed to have his thorn removed, and God said no.........God said His grace was sufficient.......and that in Paul's weakness was God magnified.

By struggling daily to be victorious over our thorn, we magnify the glory of God, for it is surely His grace that allows us to do so without giving in or acting upon our lusts/desires.

Your example of the alcoholic and the can of beer can also be a good thing...........a sign of victory for the alcoholic........but maybe not opening it would be better. Just as with your lusts...........if you get to the point where you can see a beautiful woman and think, "hey, she is quite beautiful....." AND NOT begin to "lust after her" then you have begun to have victory over the thorn.............To say you can not do this is to admit that you are defeated..........if you are defeated you are not relying on God.......His Grace to sustain you..........Now, I say "you," but I mean "all of us."
 
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"He that says he has no sin is a liar and the truth is not in him."

I would say that a Christian who minimizes their sin lies to themselves and walks down a pharisaical road.
 

p_rehbein

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"He that says he has no sin is a liar and the truth is not in him."

I would say that a Christian who minimizes their sin lies to themselves and walks down a pharisaical road.
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If that was intended to be a response to my comment......well........ok........whatever.......God bless
 
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If that was intended to be a response to my comment......well........ok........whatever.......God bless
It was a general statement. I addressed you directly in another post. Why so offendable?
 

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The Bible does not say to confess our sins to one another. It says to confess our faults to one another so that our relationship with that person may be healed. In other words, if you wrong someone, apologize and admit when you're wrong (humility).

This makes me think that God remembers our sins no more and people want to confess their sins (for forgiveness sake). God must be like "Please stop! That's enough." Then Christ, intercedes for them, pointing to what he did on the cross. lol It also reminds me of a comedy where the father says to his children at dinner, "Before we eat, let us confess our sins." Then the children speak of all the terrible things they did that week, such as looking at porn and the father interjects "Alright! That's enough!"(they kept going on and on) He doesn't want to hear that. lol!

Sin confession is wrong on so many accounts because it makes you focus on sin instead of on Christ. Why would you look at how you fall short of God's glory when the enemy is already accusing you of that? Why wouldn't you give praise to the Lord of who you are in Christ, and know that the Word says that you are the righteousness of God, in Jesus Christ? Get your eyes off of your sin and yourself, and get them on Jesus. It is by grace that sin shall not have dominion over you.
 
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I agree with p_rehbein that we must daily struggle with our sinful thoughts and desires and try not to act upon them. We are sinners, yes, but this doesn't mean that we have to feel hopeless or feel that the sin is a powerful, implacable force and give up the fight.
 
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The Bible does not say to confess our sins to one another. It says to confess our faults to one another so that our relationship with that person may be healed. In other words, if you wrong someone, apologize and admit when you're wrong (humility).

This makes me think that God remembers our sins no more and people want to confess their sins (for forgiveness sake). God must be like "Please stop! That's enough." Then Christ, intercedes for them, pointing to what he did on the cross. lol It also reminds me of a comedy where the father says to his children at dinner, "Before we eat, let us confess our sins." Then the children speak of all the terrible things they did that week, such as looking at porn and the father interjects "Alright! That's enough!"(they kept going on and on) He doesn't want to hear that. lol!

Sin confession is wrong on so many accounts because it makes you focus on sin instead of on Christ. Why would you look at how you fall short of God's glory when the enemy is already accusing you of that? Why wouldn't you give praise to the Lord of who you are in Christ, and know that the Word says that you are the righteousness of God, in Jesus Christ? Get your eyes off of your sin and yourself, and get them on Jesus. It is by grace that sin shall not have dominion over you.
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I agree with p_rehbein that we must daily struggle with our sinful thoughts and desires and try not to act upon them. We are sinners, yes, but this doesn't mean that we have to feel hopeless or feel that the sin is a powerful, implacable force and give up the fight.
I in no way disagree with this. Confession of sin is walking in the light, and walking in the light is pleasing to God and it is in our best interest..... No matter how uncomfortable.
 

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Even if it meant sins, it is the sin of which we have committed against them. It is for the sake of the relationship between the two people, and the one who committed a sin against the other, confesses it to them. Admit their wrong. Whether you choose to use sin or fault, it is all a matter of relationship. You need to realize that God forgives us of all our sins (past, present and future) and in the context of this verse, the confession isn't a matter of receiving forgiveness from God, but from the person that was wronged.

I still hold it is more along the lines of "fault", and such faults can include sins, for example, such as lying.
 
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There was a thread on here where someone asked if they should tell their spouse about an affair. Many believers advised that if she had confessed to Jesus she should not tell her husband. I have never heard such a pile of crap come out of any Christian brother or sister that I know. Confession of sin to another flesh and blood human being is biblical AND it is in a Christ followers best interest. Am I saying we need a high priest or a human to forgive us .......I am not. Our high priest is Jesus the lamb of God who gave himself up for us.
 
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Unconfessed personal sin leads to shame and shame leads to making a fig leaf and hiding from God.
 
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I in no way disagree with this. Confession of sin is walking in the light, and walking in the light is pleasing to God and it is in our best interest..... No matter how uncomfortable.
So true... I feel very uncomfortable during thhe confession of my sins (I am eastern orthodox christian - I confess to a priest) but once I confessed them and once the priest said the prayer I feel as if a burden has been taken away. Denouncing our sinful thoughts and acts is like a sort of deliverance.
 

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Unconfessed personal sin leads to shame and shame leads to making a fig leaf and hiding from God.
On the contrary, sin consciousness leads to making a fig leaf and hiding from God. Guilt and condemnation is what leads to hiding from God. It is the person who feels that must repent and confess sins for forgiveness sake that struggle with their relationship to the Lord. It is they who in sin, seeks to sin more for the moment they are already condemned, so why not?

The person who realizes that even in the midst of their sin God loves them, the sin has already been taken at the cross and Jesus doesn't condemn them, can go boldly forth to the Lord. It is the one who is not Christ conscious that finds it hardest to be with the Lord, for they base their fellowship on themself(and their own merit) rather than on Christ and His blood (that allow them to enter in to His presence, enter the Holy of Holies if you will.
 

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So true... I feel very uncomfortable during thhe confession of my sins (I am eastern orthodox christian - I confess to a priest) but once I confessed them and once the priest said the prayer I feel as if a burden has been taken away. Denouncing our sinful thoughts and acts is like a sort of deliverance.
See you have to realize that the burden that lifted was condemnation. It left for a moment, until your next sin because you believe your sin condemns you. You feel it separates you from God. You have to read that verse that says, "There is therefore now no condemnation for those those that are in Christ." Even in the midst of your sin, Christ doesn't condemn you. God doesn't condemn you. And, yes, the Holy Spirit is grieved, but not because you've offended Him but because he knows the consequences of sin, and the pain sin has on a person's life. He is grieved because such sin hurts you, and He loves you.

You need the gift of no condemnation to go boldly forth to the throne room of grace. The deliverance is in Christ and His sacrifice. You are already not condemned Simona25. You don't need a priest to make you feel delivered and lift the burden of condemnation. You need only trust in God's Word.
 
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On the contrary, sin consciousness leads to making a fig leaf and hiding from God. Guilt and condemnation is what leads to hiding from God. It is the person who feels that must repent and confess sins for forgiveness sake that struggle with their relationship to the Lord. It is they who in sin, seeks to sin more for the moment they are already condemned, so why not?

The person who realizes that even in the midst of their sin God loves them, the sin has already been taken at the cross and Jesus doesn't condemn them, can go boldly forth to the Lord. It is the one who is not Christ conscious that finds it hardest to be with the Lord, for they base their fellowship on themself(and their own merit) rather than on Christ and His blood (that allow them to enter in to His presence, enter the Holy of Holies if you will.
You and I couldn't be farther apart on this. What you are giving is your opinion and while I respect your right to have your opinion, frankly it is unbiblical in this instance and furthermore, it appears that you are justifying continuing in your sin. Love ya man, but you are deceiving yourself.
 

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You and I couldn't be farther apart on this. What you are giving is your opinion and while I respect your right to have your opinion, frankly it is unbiblical in this instance and furthermore, it appears that you are justifying continuing in your sin. Love ya man, but you are deceiving yourself.
What I am sharing with you, is biblical and from the Word. Sin confession denies the Cross and makes light of the finished work of the Cross. Sin confession makes the blood of Christ common, and makes it no different than the blood of bulls and goats. If that be the case, Christ would've suffered since the creation of the world (Hebrews 9:26). But thank God Christ's blood is greater than that of the animals and we are forgiven of all sin for all time. He is our High Priest forever, and is able to save us completely, for He lives forever to intercede for us. :)
 
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See you have to realize that the burden that lifted was condemnation. It left for a moment, until your next sin because you believe your sin condemns you. You feel it separates you from God. You have to read that verse that says, "There is therefore now no condemnation for those those that are in Christ." Even in the midst of your sin, Christ doesn't condemn you. God doesn't condemn you. And, yes, the Holy Spirit is grieved, but not because you've offended Him but because he knows the consequences of sin, and the pain sin has on a person's life. He is grieved because such sin hurts you, and He loves you.

You need the gift of no condemnation to go boldly forth to the throne room of grace. The deliverance is in Christ and His sacrifice. You are already not condemned Simona25. You don't need a priest to make you feel delivered and lift the burden of condemnation. You need only trust in God's Word.

I do not feel condemned and I do not confess my sins out of fear, but rather, out of sadness.
The church has been compared (among others) with an hospital and I feel that confessing my sins is like being in a sort of therapy for the soul. I confess my sins because I want to grow in the likeness of God, because I want to stay true and honest to myself and to God, because I think it is important to re-analise myself regularly. When I confess my sins, I come to God as I am (not as I am supposed to be or as I like to think that I am). The burden that I feel to be taken away is not the fear of condemnation, but the bitterness that sins leave in my heart. Once the confession is finished, I literally feel released and peaceful.
 
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What I am sharing with you, is biblical and from the Word. Sin confession denies the Cross and makes light of the finished work of the Cross. Sin confession makes the blood of Christ common, and makes it no different than the blood of bulls and goats. If that be the case, Christ would've suffered since the creation of the world (Hebrews 9:26). But thank God Christ's blood is greater than that of the animals and we are forgiven of all sin for all time. He is our High Priest forever, and is able to save us completely, for He lives forever to intercede for us. :)
Thank you fir the dialogue. I will def explore this further on my own. Peace