Contextual study

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
Status
Not open for further replies.
Thunderrr-mental

Thunderrr-mental

Banned
#121
Dec 18, 2023
6,402
406
83
#121
Everlasting-Grace said:
once again

The bank just not just give out loans. The bank also does not just take someones word for it. They do their own investigation and THEY determine how much capitol is worth.

So if the bank gave him any loan. its on them
Click to expand...
Sir you are clearly mistaken a person signs a declaration that the knowledge they give is true,

The banks gives a person a loan based on there credit history.

If there credit history approves the loan then that's all the checks they need, a credit history only has to approve a loan, not the persons true value of there net capital.


Is not the banks Job to investigate ever but if information you give them,..

It's your Job to provide the truth about the information, that's what you sign a declaration for.
 
E

Everlasting-Grace

Well-known member
#122
Dec 18, 2021
5,938
1,871
113
#122
Thunderrr-mental said:
Sir you are clearly mistaken a person signs a declaration that the knowledge they give is true,

The banks gives a person a loan based on there credit history.

If there credit history approves the loan then that's all the checks they need, a credit history only has to approve a loan, not the persons true value of there net capital.


Is not the banks Job to investigate ever but if information you give them,..

It's your Job to provide the truth about the information, that's what you sign a declaration for.
Click to expand...
Sir.

You are clearly mistaken.

No bank is going to just give a person a loan without investigating, Did you even watch the video?
 
Thunderrr-mental

Thunderrr-mental

Banned
#123
Dec 18, 2023
6,402
406
83
#123
Everlasting-Grace said:
once again

The bank just not just give out loans. The bank also does not just take someones word for it. They do their own investigation and THEY determine how much capitol is worth.

So if the bank gave him any loan. its on them
Click to expand...
no I didn't watch the video sorry, but I have just now,

It looks like there is a case, I accept the correction, and it looks like you could be right, 😊

I heard it differently,

But anyhow trump has caused so many people to dislike him. It's no wonder he's getting his comeuppance for other stuff.
 
E

Everlasting-Grace

Well-known member
#125
Dec 18, 2021
5,938
1,871
113
#125
Thunderrr-mental said:
no I didn't watch the video sorry, but I have just now,

It looks like there is a case, I accept the correction, and it looks like you could be right, 😊

I heard it differently,

But anyhow trump has caused so many people to dislike him. It's no wonder he's getting his comeuppance for other stuff.
Click to expand...
When you can not be bought. And you can not be controlled. Then you garner alot of hate.

It’s not really hate because he is a bad person. He is hated because he can actually do damage to those who hate him..

Which is also why many more like him
 
Thunderrr-mental

Thunderrr-mental

Banned
#127
Dec 18, 2023
6,402
406
83
#127
Everlasting-Grace said:
When you can not be bought. And you can not be controlled. Then you garner alot of hate.

It’s not really hate because he is a bad person. He is hated because he can actually do damage to those who hate him..

Which is also why many more like him
Click to expand...
That's just his front that I have witnessed many times.

That's his favourite trump card, he appeals to the heart that wins him the most votes,

one of the things he very good at is appealing to is your heart,

but deep down he's a person who has saved himself.

Ive seen his above all attitude to many times.

Hes a show man out to impress man Not God.

hes also caused a lot of racism everywhere.

not only that sir, his actions in moving the embassy to Jerusalem has caused this war in Isreal.

He also said he would applaud Russia for fighting nations who don't pay there bills.
 
FollowerofShiloh

FollowerofShiloh

Well-known member
#128
Jan 24, 2024
4,321
714
113
#128
Everlasting-Grace said:
Notice how you did not mention the whole thing he said.

He said everyone does it. Then he said the banks do their own research.

If I say my assets are worth 200 thousand, and the bank comes back and says it is only worth 100 thousand, The banks will only give based what they deem it is worth

So there is no fraud.. If the bank determines it to be only worth 100 thou, yet gives them a load based on 200 thou the borrower claims. its the banks fault not the borrower,

Most likely the bank is always going to come in lower. so you inflate it knowing this to be the case.

Its like asking 300 thou for your property knowing it is only worth 250. This allows you to negotiate..

Its not fraud.
Click to expand...
I did mention that everyone is doing it and why this case will be thrown out. But that does not mean it isn't fraud because if this becomes law you now have to convict a billion people for it.
 
FollowerofShiloh

FollowerofShiloh

Well-known member
#129
Jan 24, 2024
4,321
714
113
#129
PaulThomson said:
The true value of something is whatever someone is willing to pay to have it . Both the property developer and the banks have a relatively subjective opinion on the value. The developer is perhaps highly optimistic. The bank is perhaps highly cautious. Obviously the lender is the one taking the risk lending to the developer, and will set the actual amount of the loan with a cautous estimate of the value. The banks' valuations are no more or less accurate than the developer's.
Click to expand...
Have you ever bought something, from person to person, like a home/car/boat/atv without having it first appraised? Only a fool would do as you suggest.
 
D

DRobinson

Well-known member
#130
Aug 23, 2023
539
280
63
#130
Thunderrr-mental said:
There is a major problem with that scripture, God told Abraham to take his first born son Isaac to the alter, but Ismael had already been born,

So why did he not take Ismael. ?.

And why should it not read take Ismael your first born son to the alter.
Click to expand...
Isaac was the son of faith and Ismael was the son of doubting God, no faith, sin.
There are many things in life that are the results of our lack of faith,sin, that we must deal with for a lifetime.
Was not God's will, plan, so may not be used by God.
 
Thunderrr-mental

Thunderrr-mental

Banned
#131
Dec 18, 2023
6,402
406
83
#131
DRobinson said:
Isaac was the son of faith and Ismael was the son of doubting God, no faith, sin.
There are many things in life that are the results of our lack of faith,sin, that we must deal with for a lifetime.
Was not God's will, plan, so may not be used by God.
Click to expand...
As always you must be somebody who has not read the part that says God stayed close To Ismael as a boy in the wilderness and trained him to be an archer.

What your also probably not understanding is God trained Ismael to live in hostility with his brother's,, because as a very young boy, he was sent a way in hostility, through no fault of his own.

Also you might want to know that because God stayed close to him as a boy, that makes Ismael a prophet, as did you know the name Ismael means God hears me.
 
Cameron143

Cameron143

Well-known member
#134
Mar 1, 2022
19,184
6,604
113
62
#134
FollowerofShiloh said:
If you know something is max worth at only $10 dollars but tell others it's worth $50, what is that called?
Could it be Lying, dishonesty, fraud, deceiving?
Click to expand...
The judge said Mar-A-Lago was worth 18 million. Who are we saying committed fraud?
 
FollowerofShiloh

FollowerofShiloh

Well-known member
#136
Jan 24, 2024
4,321
714
113
#136
Cameron143 said:
The judge said Mar-A-Lago was worth 18 million. Who are we saying committed fraud?
Click to expand...
I thought this trial only concerned with dealings in the State of New York. Mar-A-Lago is in Florida. Not sure why that would be in the case log for New York unless it's part of the assets connected to Trump org.
 
Cameron143

Cameron143

Well-known member
#137
Mar 1, 2022
19,184
6,604
113
62
#137
FollowerofShiloh said:
I thought this trial only concerned with dealings in the State of New York. Mar-A-Lago is in Florida. Not sure why that would be in the case log for New York unless it's part of the assets connected to Trump org.
Click to expand...
Trump has assets all over the world. All or part would be used as collateral to secure loans.
Also, as part of any contract there would be a clause stating that financial institutions should do an independent investigation and come up with their own evaluation.
 
FollowerofShiloh

FollowerofShiloh

Well-known member
#138
Jan 24, 2024
4,321
714
113
#138
Cameron143 said:
Trump has assets all over the world. All or part would be used as collateral to secure loans.
Also, as part of any contract there would be a clause stating that financial institutions should do an independent investigation and come up with their own evaluation.
Click to expand...
I understand that. But this case in New York seems to only be dealing with business he's done in New York. But I agree he has assets everywhere.
 
Cameron143

Cameron143

Well-known member
#139
Mar 1, 2022
19,184
6,604
113
62
#139
FollowerofShiloh said:
I understand that. But this case in New York seems to only be dealing with business he's done in New York. But I agree he has assets everywhere.
Click to expand...
The judge in the case cited Mar-A-Lago. So it was probably part of the valuation.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.