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Cameron143

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I did not look into all of the details. So it must be that Trump has all of his assets connected to Trump Org. then.
I would assume so. The greater the asset value, the lower the risk to the lending institution. Also, the better the rate they will give.
This is clearly a witch hunt. That everyone isn't outraged just tells you how much the collective American psyche has been corrupted.
 

FollowerofShiloh

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I would assume so. The greater the asset value, the lower the risk to the lending institution. Also, the better the rate they will give.
This is clearly a witch hunt. That everyone isn't outraged just tells you how much the collective American psyche has been corrupted.
Makes perfect sense to me (y)
 

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As always you must be somebody who has not read the part that says God stayed close To Ismael as a boy in the wilderness and trained him to be an archer.

What your also probably not understanding is God trained Ismael to live in hostility with his brother's,, because as a very young boy, he was sent a way in hostility, through no fault of his own.

Also you might want to know that because God stayed close to him as a boy, that makes Ismael a prophet, as did you know the name Ismael means God hears me.
Well, I know God made a promise to Ismael's mother.
But it was through the promised son that God brought the Messiah who would die on the cross for my sin
Show me one prophesy of God through Ismael.
Name me one thing the descendants of Ismael did for the good of man.
 
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Well, I know God made a promise to Ismael's mother.
But it was through the promised son that God brought the Messiah who would die on the cross for my sin
Show me one prophesy of God through Ismael.
Name me one thing the descendants of Ismael did for the good of man.
Nobody ever answers this question.

It just gets deflected all the time.

God said bring your first born Issac to the alter, in the bible,

Why was Isaac called his first born when it was Ismael who was the first born.


Hagar was not a bond woman as said by some people. she was just a woman and an slave chose by Abraham's wife to bare a child by Abraham. That makes it legitimate

People use all theese excuses that's not in the bible but never answer the question



And Well you know there's no way of knowing exactly what blood was in Jacobs sons, whether Jacob's blood was entirely from Isaacs descendents is a bit of a brain storm really.

Theres evidence that the descendants of Ishmael mixed with the descendants of Abraham down the line, before they got to Jacob.

Another brain storm is Jacob's fourth born Judha was to carry the seed for Jesus, but why choose the fourth born

As Judha was by no means perfect just as his the first 3 born brothers where not perfect either, they all made mistakes.

But people use the excuse Ismael made some kind of mistake.
 

DRobinson

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Nobody ever answers this question.

It just gets deflected all the time.

God said bring your first born Issac to the alter, in the bible,

Why was Isaac called his first born when it was Ismael who was the first born.


Hagar was not a bond woman as said by some people. she was just a woman and an slave chose by Abraham's wife to bare a child by Abraham. That makes it legitimate

People use all theese excuses that's not in the bible but never answer the question



And Well you know there's no way of knowing exactly what blood was in Jacobs sons, whether Jacob's blood was entirely from Isaacs descendents is a bit of a brain storm really.

Theres evidence that the descendants of Ishmael mixed with the descendants of Abraham down the line, before they got to Jacob.

Another brain storm is Jacob's fourth born Judha was to carry the seed for Jesus, but why choose the fourth born

As Judha was by no means perfect just as his the first 3 born brothers where not perfect either, they all made mistakes.

But people use the excuse Ismael made some kind of mistake.
Show me the evidence that the descendants of Ismael mixed with the descents of Isaac before Jacob was born.
You are making a lot of statements without offering any Scripture proof.
Show me in the Scripture.
 

PaulThomson

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Yes. And if I think something is worth the
Have you ever bought something, from person to person, like a home/car/boat/atv without having it first appraised? Only a fool would do as you suggest.
price to me I pay it, or if not I haggle to a price I think it's worth to me. Or I walk away.
 
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Show me the evidence that the descendants of Ismael mixed with the descents of Isaac before Jacob was born.
You are making a lot of statements without offering any Scripture proof.
Show me in the Scripture.
oh I see, I'm making statements am I.

People can't answer a simple question without making a load of statements.



Listen I've done my home work on this,

You obviously haven't.

Judha was no more perfect than Ismael was anyhow, so what should it matter even if I do give you your evidence.

I could show you right now, but I'm not going to.

You know why.

Because at this moment in time I cant be bothered
 

PaulThomson

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Isaac was the son of faith and Ismael was the son of doubting God, no faith, sin.
There are many things in life that are the results of our lack of faith,sin, that we must deal with for a lifetime.
Was not God's will, plan, so may not be used by God.
First-born is an idiom for "most favoured". It need not be the chronol
 

DRobinson

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oh I see, I'm making statements am I.

People can't answer a simple question without making a load of statements.



Listen I've done my home work on this,

You obviously haven't.

Judha was no more perfect than Ismael was anyhow, so what should it matter even if I do give you your evidence.

I could show you right now, but I'm not going to.

You know why.

Because at this moment in time I cant be bothered
When people refuse to give Scripture to support their statements, it's time to just ignore them.
 
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When people refuse to give Scripture to support their statements, it's time to just ignore them.
I haven't refused at this moment in time I said I can't be bothered to have more scripture rejected at this moment.



I know there is evidence to suggest they mixed along the way in scripture.

I'm waiting for you to acknowledge what we started discussing originally.

And waiting for answer to

Whether you know or whether you should speculate.
 

Everlasting-Grace

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If you know something is max worth at only $10 dollars but tell others it's worth $50, what is that called?
Could it be Lying, dishonesty, fraud, deceiving?
It’s called good business practice. Again everyone does it. If you’re going to charge one. You better charge everyone.

By the way, Did you see CNN,, They are now saying Mr a logo is worth what everyone is saying, where before they said it was not

people can not even get it right
 
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It’s called good business practice. Again everyone does it. If you’re going to charge one. You better charge everyone.

By the way, Did you see CNN,, They are now saying Mr a logo is worth what everyone is saying, where before they said it was not

people can not even get it right
yeah I have to say it looks like the the courts have it wrong in this case, and there's been a miss carriage of justice against trump.

But what do you think of trump, do you think he should lead America, or would you like him to.
 

FollowerofShiloh

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It’s called good business practice. Again everyone does it. If you’re going to charge one. You better charge everyone.

By the way, Did you see CNN,, They are now saying Mr a logo is worth what everyone is saying, where before they said it was not

people can not even get it right
I did read about it actually. It will be hard and very difficult for Trump to liquidate it to cash because of the biggest common fact about many of Trump's holding possessions.


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And yet Trump Media is being valued north of $6 billion on a fully diluted basis, which includes all stocks and options that could be converted to common stock, according to Jay Ritter, a finance professor at the University of Florida.

Ritter said the current market price is hard, if not impossible, to justify.

“It is grossly overvalued,” said Ritter.
 

Everlasting-Grace

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yeah I have to say it looks like the the courts have it wrong in this case, and there's been a miss carriage of justice against trump.

But what do you think of trump, do you think he should lead America, or would you like him to.
if I have to chose between trump and biden, it is no contest.
 

Everlasting-Grace

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I did read about it actually. It will be hard and very difficult for Trump to liquidate it to cash because of the biggest common fact about many of Trump's holding possessions.


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And yet Trump Media is being valued north of $6 billion on a fully diluted basis, which includes all stocks and options that could be converted to common stock, according to Jay Ritter, a finance professor at the University of Florida.

Ritter said the current market price is hard, if not impossible, to justify.

“It is grossly overvalued,” said Ritter.
see the latest? The court of appeals lowered the inflated amount. Trump will pay the new amount, then continue to appeal that he was fined anything at all..
 

2ndTimeIsTheCharm

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This thread had a good topic but is now getting derailed by Trump haters, why??? Why not just start a new thread in the Conspiracy forum? Or is it because this forum gets more attention? And this is an election year?

I think it would be nice if Pres. Trump won again and not have it taken away from him. It would be nice to have things run well again at least for the next 4 years.

Meanwhile, the globalists and the antichrist across the pond are on track to set up the one-world power they're craving. So why not let the USA just enjoy these upcoming 4 years for ourselves and let Trump run it for now? You can just undo all the good stuff he'll do for us afterwards.

All the trump-haters here think they will benefit under the antichrist, but I've got to tell you all, you won't. You WILL regret backing him. The Bible says his regime won't last - it won't even last for a long time - just like Hitler's didn't, just like Napoleon's didn't, just like all the other crazy leaders in the past.


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2ndTimeIsTheCharm

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you don't have to choose any of them.

By choosing evil you promote evil

You should be more worried about your own side of the pond. That's where the antichrist is going to emerge, not from the US. Or is that what you really want all along? You'll regret siding with him against Christians.


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