creationist debate?

[Reformyourself]

Try harder 😉

Don’t start that ‘context exegesis hermeneutics’ 💩 with me

 

[Reformyourself]

who wrote that saying you bolded?

Wesley

 

[Reformyourself]

Wesley

Think it’s in John Wesley’s scriptural context of Christian perfection.

 

[JamOn]

Think it’s in John Wesley’s scriptural context of Christian perfection.

I’ve read on it and it come from a old Latin phrase, hominem unius libri timo, (I fear the man of the single book). Wesley used it among a few others, John Wesley’s added his own variant to it. but the original phrase wasn’t about the Bible.

 

[biker]

No,I dont Think so. Look how old people became before the flood and how old after. The Atmosphäre was different before the flood. If you imagine that 40 days rain emptied the water belt which was above the heaven (genesis 1,7) and filtert the U V so that all life could live longer.
Then for me its logic that this was different after the flood.

If there were NO CLOUDS prior to Noah's flood and clouds after, it would had been a benefit to all life to have clouds. Your thinking is reversed on this matter. Where we find most Dinosaur bones are from Volcanic activity. This means Volcanic activity played a major role in the destruction of Dinosaurs, NOT WATER! And Volcanoes would spew poisonous gases so even NOAH would had died. Dinosaurs were on Earth WAY BEFORE ADAM!

 

[Reformyourself]

in Genesis 2:4 yôm is part of an anarthrous (ref) prepositional compound beyômmeaning not ‘in the day’ but simply ’when’.
(Ref) i.e. lacking the definite article. If the definite article (represented by the vowel marking pathach under the beth) then it would signify ‘in the day’. Its lack signifies an idiomatic use meaning ‘when’ as in the NIV translation.

To lpevansie
Ref: Journal of Creation
Volume 21, Issue 2
Published August 2007

PS. I presume that you a ‘narnia’ fan?
“Perhaps the reason that Tolkien and Lewis showed pagan sympathy in their stories is due to their affiliation with one Charles Williams who was a member of the highly satanic, Qabalistic "Order of the Golden Dawn." (The "Order of the Golden Dawn" was primarily made up of mystical "Christians" and former followers of Madame Blavatsky the founder of the Theosophical Society that still adhered to Luciferianism.) Williams, along with Tolkien and Lewis, were members of a close knit Oxford reading group known as “The Inklings.” This is almost certainly where Lewis arrived at his extra-biblical ideas concerning the Holy Grail and other mid-evil myths”. https://www.ericbarger.com/lotr.c.c.2.htm

 

[biker]

Yet we see Job could remember the behemoth, the greatest of all creatures to roam the earth.

The Behemoth is the Herbivore mentioned in Job, it is known as the Mastodon, which is the Elephant before becoming the elephant.

 

[Reformyourself]

I’ve read on it and it come from a old Latin phrase, hominem unius libri timo, (I fear the man of the single book). Wesley used it among a few others, John Wesley’s added his own variant to it. but the original phrase wasn’t about the Bible.

He wasn’t a man of one book anyway. I just like the quote. I dropped Wesley a long time ago.

 

[biker]

1. Void and without form was it original state
2.overflowed with water was noah flood
3. it was created to be inhabited, that why it was created in 6 days exactly as God said,

Genesis 2 shows us when God created He did it by GENERATIONS:

He did not plant seeds but put full grown trees and flowers, and grass. Adam was made as an adult, not a child. Eve was an adult, not a child. God did everything as fully completed. Which also means, God would have done the same thing with Earth (like we read Genesis 1:1 where the Earth is completed)

 

[wolfwint]

If there were NO CLOUDS prior to Noah's flood and clouds after, it would had been a benefit to all life to have clouds. Your thinking is reversed on this matter. Where we find most Dinosaur bones are from Volcanic activity. This means Volcanic activity played a major role in the destruction of Dinosaurs, NOT WATER! And Volcanoes would spew poisonous gases so even NOAH would had died. Dinosaurs were on Earth WAY BEFORE ADAM!

I did not spoke from clouds, i am speaking from a waterbelt above what we call sky.

Well, we both cant proof our View, so its speculation. I find my View very sympathic.
Where do you Think the people have the pictures and tales of dragons?

Lets ask God, if it will be nesassary, when we are with him in eternity.

 

[JamOn]

Genesis 2 shows us when God created He did it by GENERATIONS:

He did not plant seeds but put full grown trees and flowers, and grass. Adam was made as an adult, not a child. Eve was an adult, not a child. God did everything as fully completed. Which also means, God would have done the same thing with Earth (like we read Genesis 1:1 where the Earth is completed)

Hmm what happen to the earth being formless and void that isn’t a complete earth

 

[Lightskin]

Don’t start that ‘context exegesis hermeneutics’ 💩 with me

My posts have nothing to do with exegesis hermeneutics but rather everything to do with your heretical views.

 

[biker]

I did not spoke from clouds, i am speaking from a waterbelt above what we call sky.

Well, we both cant proof our View, so its speculation. I find my View very sympathic.
Where do you Think the people have the pictures and tales of dragons?

Lets ask God, if it will be nesassary, when we are with him in eternity.

Doesn't matter. Life then and now still breathe the same nitro. Every time we find a human remain that is clearly older than the Egyptians, their lungs are the same as ours. Water or NO water would not change a thing.

 

[biker]

Hmm what happen to the earth being formless and void that isn’t a complete earth

That I already explained on page 4, post #70

 

[biker]

Doesn't matter. Life then and now still breathe the same nitro. Every time we find a human remain that is clearly older than the Egyptians, their lungs are the same as ours. Water or NO water would not change a thing.

This is why we ALL should know that "Climate Change" is a HOAX!

 

[Lightskin]

I dropped Wesley a long time ago.

Good, because he complained of a total absence of love for God and a lack of saving faith.

 

[biker]

Good Example:

• Antarctic ozone hole has closed in near-record time for 2019 Just a month or so ago, the 2019 Antarctic ozone hole was declared the smallest seen since it was first discovered back in 1985. Now, data from NASA Ozone Watch is showing that the ozone hole has completely closed up as of November 11 - the earliest it has done so since 2002.

Antarctic ozone hole has closed in near-record time for 2019
ca.news.yahoo.com/antarctic-ozone-hole-closed-near-013000763.html


See, it naturally opens and naturally closes. But Science was claiming its opening meant our soon death. It's a money scam!

 

[JamOn]

That I already explained on page 4, post #70

Yea by using one meaning of tohuw to fit a idea,

my idea is it was in the elementary stage

 

[wolfwint]

Doesn't matter. Life then and now still breathe the same nitro. Every time we find a human remain that is clearly older than the Egyptians, their lungs are the same as ours. Water or NO water would not change a thing.

Of course are the lungs the same. The dident live in water We know if I am not wrong that the Sun makes that cells age faster. This waterbelt hinders the sunintensity, so that cells growing slower, so it can be a logic explaination why people before the flood got older f.e. 969 years. And dinosaur which growing like krokodiles livelong, finaly died because of bad live circumstances, f.e. changed climate.

 

[biker]

Good Example:

• Antarctic ozone hole has closed in near-record time for 2019 Just a month or so ago, the 2019 Antarctic ozone hole was declared the smallest seen since it was first discovered back in 1985. Now, data from NASA Ozone Watch is showing that the ozone hole has completely closed up as of November 11 - the earliest it has done so since 2002.

Antarctic ozone hole has closed in near-record time for 2019
ca.news.yahoo.com/antarctic-ozone-hole-closed-near-013000763.html


See, it naturally opens and naturally closes. But Science was claiming its opening meant our soon death. It's a money scam!

When we can observe this opening and closing within our own lifetimes and yet we still are ALIVE, we know the Dinosaurs did not die over climate change. God made climate change to be a natural process. This is why we find Dinosaur remains under mass volumes of Old Lava from volcanoes. Which means, Dinosaurs were here way before Adam!