Daniel and Matthews abomination of desolation.

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FollowerofShiloh

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These missiles,rockets and drones are not causing the heavens to depart from the earth like a scroll being rolled together.

You ever watched a scroll being rolled together,?
Do you understand the motion?
The sky being rolled like a scroll won't happen to right before New Jerusalem comes down. It happens after the old earth and atmosphere are replaced by the renewal or new earth and atmosphere. Has nothing to do with a war.
 

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Luke 21

10 Then said he unto them, Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom:

11 And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.



The statue causes the great earthquake ,and pestilences and great fearful signs in the heavens.People fleeing for their lives in haste because of a 2 mile high statue that darkens the sky


Wow.
Regarding the statue image being viewable -
Have you ever heard of TV and the internet, You Tube ? The statue image will be viewable from parts of Jerusalem that overlook the temple mount as well.
 
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The sky being rolled like a scroll won't happen to right before New Jerusalem comes down. It happens after the old earth and atmosphere are replaced by the renewal or new earth and atmosphere. Has nothing to do with a war.
So you believe the stars fall from heaven and Christ comes after the millinium?


You believe this takes place after the millinium?

Mathew 24

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
 
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Regarding the statue image being viewable -
Have you ever heard of TV and the internet, You Tube ? The statue image will be viewable from parts of Jerusalem that overlook the temple mount as well.


Didn't Jesus say they won't go into their houses?


But you believe the people in judea in the fields will flee to their houses to watch TV?


Mathew 24

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
 
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Regarding the statue image being viewable -
Have you ever heard of TV and the internet, You Tube ? The statue image will be viewable from parts of Jerusalem that overlook the temple mount as well.

Its like you don't seem to understand the sense of urgency.They dont have the time to watch tv.The people Jesus said would see it are outside and they don't have the time to go into into their houses to get a coat much less sit down and watch TV.
It's even a burden to have a child .
How many years have you read these things and never noticed Jesus said they won't go into the houses?Yet you think someone will go into their house,sit down and watch TV?
Seriously?


Mathew 24

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
 

FollowerofShiloh

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So you believe the stars fall from heaven and Christ comes after the millinium?


You believe this takes place after the millinium?

Mathew 24

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Stars falling come from the Galaxy within the Universe that surrounds the atmosphere of the earth. Only the atmosphere of the earth is rolled up or removed like the earth for a new earth and atmosphere. You act like it's the Universe. Revelation only pertains specifically to the earth and its atmosphere.
 
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Stars falling come from the Galaxy within the Universe that surrounds the atmosphere of the earth. Only the atmosphere of the earth is rolled up or removed like the earth for a new earth and atmosphere. You act like it's the Universe. Revelation only pertains specifically to the earth and its atmosphere.
So you believe the stars fall from heaven and Christ comes after the millinium?


You believe this takes place after the millinium?

Mathew 24

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
 

FollowerofShiloh

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So you believe the stars fall from heaven and Christ comes after the millinium?


You believe this takes place after the millinium?

Mathew 24

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
I was explaining where stars fall from. But the phenom of stars falling typically is connected to the Second Coming. I am talking about the new heaven (atmosphere) and earth.
 
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I was explaining where stars fall from. But the phenom of stars falling typically is connected to the Second Coming. I am talking about the new heaven (atmosphere) and earth.
You said the sky being rolled together like a scroll doesn't happen till right before new Jerusalem comes down.


The stars falling to the earth is connected to the second coming but you are still avoiding the question.

Do you believe the second coming and the stars falling to the earth is before or after the millinium?


Mathew 24

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.



Do you believe these stats in Mathew 24 are falling before or after the millinium,?
 

FollowerofShiloh

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You said the sky being rolled together like a scroll doesn't happen till right before new Jerusalem comes down.


The stars falling to the earth is connected to the second coming but you are still avoiding the question.

Do you believe the second coming and the stars falling to the earth is before or after the millinium?


Mathew 24

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
The stars falling + Second Coming all happen before Armageddon where the Beast/AC/Man of Sin and False Prophet get tossed into the Lake of Fire. This all happens before Satan is bound for 1,000 years.
 
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The stars falling + Second Coming all happen before Armageddon where the Beast/AC/Man of Sin and False Prophet get tossed into the Lake of Fire. This all happens before Satan is bound for 1,000 years.

The stars falling to the earth and the sky departing from the earth takes place during the war of armegeddon.
The sky departs as a scroll being rolled together takes place in verse 14.

Revelation 6

12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;

13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.

15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;

16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
 

FollowerofShiloh

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The stars falling to the earth and the sky departing from the earth takes place during the war of armegeddon.
The sky departs as a scroll being rolled together takes place in verse 14.

Revelation 6

12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;

13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.

15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;

16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
Nice. I like this.
 
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The stars falling + Second Coming all happen before Armageddon where the Beast/AC/Man of Sin and False Prophet get tossed into the Lake of Fire. This all happens before Satan is bound for 1,000 years.

The heavens departing as a scroll being rolled together looks like this.John had a birds eye veiw from underneath it.And yes ,the false prophet and beast are cast into the lake of fire at that time.
Look closely and describe what you see.


 

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Its like you don't seem to understand the sense of urgency.They dont have the time to watch tv.The people Jesus said would see it are outside and they don't have the time to go into into their houses to get a coat much less sit down and watch TV.
It's even a burden to have a child .
How many years have you read these things and never noticed Jesus said they won't go into the houses?Yet you think someone will go into their house,sit down and watch TV?
Seriously?
The assassination of the revealed man of sin will be a worldwide broadcast event seen on TV, the internet, and in the news radio.
And his coming back alive will be even more so.

The false prophet in Revelation 13:14 will have the people of the world make the statue image of the beast. So making the statue image of the beast will not be done in secret. Everybody in the world will know about it being made.

A great ceremony will be planned and announced of what day the statue image will be placed on the temple mount grounds.

On that day, the Jews should flee right away and not delay, The beast will try to stop the escape to the mountains, but the two witnesses will be battle him, providing cover for the fleeing Jews. That goes on for 75 days until the beast finally kills the two witnesses and slams shut the door to fleeing.

The Jews who do not flee with urgency are the ones in Revelation 12:17, the remnant, who will be vulnerable to persecution by Satan, who will be indwelling the image of the beast, after the two witnesses are gone.
 

FollowerofShiloh

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The heavens departing as a scroll being rolled together looks like this.John had a birds eye veiw from underneath it.And yes ,the false prophet and beast are cast into the lake of fire at that time.
Look closely and describe what you see.


I see sonic reverberation. A nuke would completely eliminate the presence of life forms at that magnitude and there would be nothing left for birds to eat. The blood would not be as described because a nuke at that magnitude would evaporate it. So it won't be a nuke.
 

douggg

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The heavens departing as a scroll being rolled together looks like this.John had a birds eye brow from underneath it.And yes ,the false prophet and beast are cast into the lake of fire at that time.
Look closely and describe what you see.
John was in heaven.

A nuclear bomb is like a peanut in size compared to the sixth seal event. The sun turns black. The moon becomes as blood. The stars appear to fall to earth on the horizon. The universe is parted in the middle, and the rolled back like a scroll, and the world sees the third heaven where God's throne is.
 
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I see sonic reverberation. A nuke would completely eliminate the presence of life forms at that magnitude and there would be nothing left for birds to eat. The blood would not be as described because a nuke at that magnitude would evaporate it. So it won't be a nuke.
A nuke consumed flesh in the city.Outside the city would be fallout.Many people would die from drinking water because the water would be poisonous like in revelation..Some people would die from radiation poison.Yes the birds would still.be able to eat.

In the war of armegeddon when nation rises against nation,there will be great earthquakes
,pestilences,and fearful sights in the heavens just like in the video.



Luke 21
10 Then said he unto them, Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom:

11 And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.
 
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John was in heaven.

A nuclear bomb is like a peanut in size compared to the sixth seal event. The sun turns black. The moon becomes as blood. The stars appear to fall to earth on the horizon. The universe is parted in the middle, and the rolled back like a scroll, and the world sees the third heaven where God's throne is.

John saw the people hiding underground and heard what they had to say.

Revelation 6
15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;

16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
 
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The assassination of the revealed man of sin will be a worldwide broadcast event seen on TV, the internet, and in the news radio.
And his coming back alive will be even more so.

The false prophet in Revelation 13:14 will have the people of the world make the statue image of the beast. So making the statue image of the beast will not be done in secret. Everybody in the world will know about it being made.

A great ceremony will be planned and announced of what day the statue image will be placed on the temple mount grounds.

On that day, the Jews should flee right away and not delay, The beast will try to stop the escape to the mountains, but the two witnesses will be battle him, providing cover for the fleeing Jews. That goes on for 75 days until the beast finally kills the two witnesses and slams shut the door to fleeing.

The Jews who do not flee with urgency are the ones in Revelation 12:17, the remnant, who will be vulnerable to persecution by Satan, who will be indwelling the image of the beast, after the two witnesses are gone.
The beast is already healed Doug.
If you understood what it is ,you would know that.
 
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What a nuisance! Can you not talk about anything about Islam in the Christian forum?
Can you pray for your enemy Islam?
It's shameful desolation