Daniel and Matthews abomination of desolation.

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If that were the case then it would be that little person's daily sacrifice that is abolished.

Daniel 8:12 And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.


Insted,the king of the norths armed forces are given to Israel to abolish Israels daily sacrifices.

Israel is the receiver and the king of the north is the provider.
The EU army will be occupying the middle east following Gog/Magog. The little horn person will be able to abolish the daily sacrifice that the Jews will be conducting because he will have the military backing of the EU army to be able to do so.
 

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The United states has 100,000 armed forces members in Europe.If Europe is so powerful as you believe,why does the US provide Europe with a host of 100,000?
Goes all the way back to the days following WWII. I myself was stationed in Germany in the early 1970's. The U.S maintains a military presence in the EU as part of NATO - originally to counter the Russian Communist threat to Europe.
 
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The EU army will be occupying the middle east following Gog/Magog. The little horn person will be able to abolish the daily sacrifice that the Jews will be conducting because he will have the military backing of the EU army to be able to do so.
The eu has no interest In occupying the middle east.The EU will keep all of its forces in Europe to protect itself from.russia has as it is now
 
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Goes all the way back to the days following WWII. I myself was stationed in Germany in the early 1970's. The U.S maintains a military presence in the EU as part of NATO - originally to counter the Russian Communist threat to Europe.
Yes,it is the United states that provides others with a host.Been that way since WW1 and will be that way till armegeddon,which we are quickly approaching.

The EU provides no one with a host.They keep to themselves.About the only way the EU would provide anyone outside of the EU with a host is if they were to be in NATO .
Israel would have to join NATO before Israel.would recieve a host from anyone in the EU.
 

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The eu has no interest In occupying the middle east.The EU will keep all of its forces in Europe to protect itself from.russia has as it is now
The ten leaders of the EU will have a big reason to occupy the middle east - which is to secure all the oil for themselves.
 
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No,the EU would not try to save
The ten leaders of the EU will have a big reason to occupy the middle east - which is to secure all the oil for themselves.
So you believe the king of the north is ten leaders who will give Israel their armed forces leaving themselves vulnerable to attack from anyone.So what do you think the world's superpower who has armed forces worldwide will be doing during this time?
What will Israel's closest ally ,the United states be doing at this time?
 

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So you believe the king of the north is ten leaders
No.

So you believe the king of the north is ten leaders who will give Israel their armed forces leaving themselves vulnerable to attack from anyone.So what do you think the world's superpower who has armed forces worldwide will be doing during this time?
What will Israel's closest ally ,the United states be doing at this time?
You don't refer to what bible passage. And you don't say what time. In other words you are not communicating well enough for anyone to understand what you are talking about.

Why don't you work on a timeline chart(s) of events for the 7 years 70th week?



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No.



You don't refer to what bible passage. And you don't say what time. In other words you are not communicating well enough for anyone to understand what you are talking about.

Why don't you work on a timeline chart(s) of events for the 7 years 70th week?



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Your the only person who has said you don't understand me.

As for a timeline chart,I have a bible.It is my timeline chart. The problem with yours is ,it doesn't match the bible.
 

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Your the only person who has said you don't understand me.

As for a timeline chart,I have a bible.It is my timeline chart. The problem with yours is ,it doesn't match the bible.
I am the only person who has said that I don't understand you................as I am the only person who has replied to your post.

The bible is not a timeline chart. You have the bible to research and try to make a timeline chart. But it takes effort to both learn how to use a graphics program and also to put events of the bible in proper order.
 
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I am the only person who has said that I don't understand you................as I am the only person who has replied to your post.

The bible is not a timeline chart. You have the bible to research and try to make a timeline chart. But it takes effort to both learn how to use a graphics program and also to put events of the bible in proper order.

Your the only person on this site who has said they don't understand me.That includes all threads I've posted in.

The bible is a timeline chart.It gives time lines of events.Your problem is,you don't understand those events or timelines.So you make up your own.I don't need to make up my own timelines.

For instance,Revelation 20 shows the first resurection taking place and the saints who did not worship the beast or it's image nor received its mark reign with Christ for 1000 years .
Then Gog and the nations outside the millinial kingdom rise up and come against the saints in the land of Israel.Then God destroys Gog and those nations with fire.


Now you can't understand God's timeline ,so you have come up with your own timeline that that has Gog and the nations outside the kingdom come against the beast which is in the land of Israel today.A beast that you can not recognize nor understand..Your timeline shows Gog coming against the beast before the millinium.

It's your time lines that don't make any sense.They contradict the word of God .There is nothing wrong with God's timeline.It is as it is.

Revelation 20

20 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.

2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.


6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
 

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A nuke consumed flesh in the city.Outside the city would be fallout.Many people would die from drinking water because the water would be poisonous like in revelation..Some people would die from radiation poison.Yes the birds would still.be able to eat.

In the war of armegeddon when nation rises against nation,there will be great earthquakes
,pestilences,and fearful sights in the heavens just like in the video.



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10 Then said he unto them, Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom:

11 And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.
We're talking about Armageddon which takes place in the Valley of Megiddo, not cities.
 
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We're talking about Armageddon which takes place in the Valley of Megiddo, not cities.
The United States armed forces destroys all the middle east.No one will live in Egypt for 40 years.No one will even pass through it.

Muslims will wish it was only in Israel.

Daniel 11

40 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over.

41 He shall enter also into the glorious land, and many countries shall be overthrown: but these shall escape out of his hand, even Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon.

42 He shall stretch forth his hand also upon the countries: and the land of Egypt shall not escape.

43 But he shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt: and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps.

44 But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him: therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy, and utterly to make away many.


All of the nations that attack America's little buddy will be destroyed.
 

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The United States armed forces destroys all the middle east.No one will live in Egypt for 40 years.No one will even pass through it.

Muslims will wish it was only in Israel.

Daniel 11

40 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over.

41 He shall enter also into the glorious land, and many countries shall be overthrown: but these shall escape out of his hand, even Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon.

42 He shall stretch forth his hand also upon the countries: and the land of Egypt shall not escape.

43 But he shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt: and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps.

44 But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him: therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy, and utterly to make away many.


All of the nations that attack America's little buddy will be destroyed.
USA is "West" and nowhere is the "West" listed in Daniel.
 

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Your the only person on this site who has said they don't understand me.That includes all threads I've posted in.

The bible is a timeline chart.It gives time lines of events.Your problem is,you don't understand those events or timelines.So you make up your own.I don't need to make up my own timelines.
Do you know how to use a graphics program, like Corel Paintshop Pro, to construct a visual timline chart ? Yes or no ? The charts that I make are technically nothing more than pictures made up of lines and words.
 
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USA is "West" and nowhere is the "West" listed in Daniel.

The United states armed forces are global.
The fifth and sixth fleet alone can destroy the middle east.

Cities of the nations.And you thought the war was confined to a small plain

Revelation 16:19
And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.

A few of us nuclear subs can destroy much of the middle east.
 
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Do you know how to use a graphics program, like Corel Paintshop Pro, to construct a visual timline chart ? Yes or no ? The charts that I make are technically nothing more than pictures made up of lines and words.
Doug.Ive already showed you one of my timelines that God has given me.I don't need to construct a timeline chart for you so you can understand.You need to try to understand the word of God as s God has given it.
 
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USA is "West" and nowhere is the "West" listed in Daniel.
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Just the other day several B1B bombers took off from north America and bombed a few middle eastern countries.They left North America and returned to North America.

Also the United states has 100 nuclear bombs in Europe to be used whenever needed.
 

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Doug.Ive already showed you one of my timelines that God has given me.I don't need to construct a timeline chart for you so you can understand.You need to try to understand the word of God as s God has given it.
I am going to take that as a "no" you do not know how to use a graphics program to make a viewable timeline chart.
 
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I am going to take that as a "no" you do not know how to use a graphics program to make a viewable timeline chart.
Why would I need one.I have the word of God.

You seem to trust graphics more than God's word.Or charts is all that you can understand .God doest use charts.If he did ,the bible would be full of them.Insted God has his prophets tell things as they are.
 

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Why would I need one.I have the word of God.
You need a graphics program to make viewable timeline chart(s) because you are not a good communicator and your thoughts are not organized.