DANIEL CHAPTER ONE
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Yes, so what? What does it matter to you? Everyone has their own life! Finally an intelligent man!
- All wrong!
- If he had chosen Yah.weh, the world would not be in the current situation!
- By acting as he did, he sacrificed his children and his descendants!
- Moreover, most of his descendants have chosen and are choosing the same path!
- The path that leads to destruction!
- No interest!
- How unconscious!
- He is the opposite of Job!
- Job lights the path of those who want to serve Yah.weh!
- Adam shows the way to those who want to serve the devil!
Yes, so what? What does it matter to you? Everyone has their own life! Finally an intelligent man!
- All wrong!
- If he had chosen Yah.weh, the world would not be in the current situation!
- By acting as he did, he sacrificed his children and his descendants!
- Moreover, most of his descendants have chosen and are choosing the same path!
- The path that leads to destruction!
- No interest!
- How unconscious!
- He is the opposite of Job!
- Job lights the path of those who want to serve Yah.weh!
- Adam shows the way to those who want to serve the devil!
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The trap was well set
- Interesting, but was that really the case?
- Adam had received the ban directly from Yah.weh!
- Whereas for Eve, the ban had been transmitted to her by Adam!
-If the devil had tried to corrupt Adam directly, it would never have worked!
- So he went through the weak link!
- Eve let herself be seduced!
- The devil told her what she wanted to hear!
- We remember the choice of Lot's wife!
- She preferred to turn around and was transformed into a column of salt!
- But this was not the case for Lot or his daughters!
- It is always a personal choice, free will!
- Yah.weh lets us choose our side!
- But in the end, Adam blamed Eve when it was he who decided to follow her!
- Once again, he preferred to follow Eve instead of Yah.weh!
- He made a choice, he thought about himself and not about the consequences it would have for others!
- Quite human!
- Men don't care about the consequences their choices can have on others!
- This is why the earth is in the state it is!
The trap was well set
- Interesting, but was that really the case?
- Adam had received the ban directly from Yah.weh!
- Whereas for Eve, the ban had been transmitted to her by Adam!
-If the devil had tried to corrupt Adam directly, it would never have worked!
- So he went through the weak link!
- Eve let herself be seduced!
- The devil told her what she wanted to hear!
- We remember the choice of Lot's wife!
- She preferred to turn around and was transformed into a column of salt!
- But this was not the case for Lot or his daughters!
- It is always a personal choice, free will!
- Yah.weh lets us choose our side!
- But in the end, Adam blamed Eve when it was he who decided to follow her!
- Once again, he preferred to follow Eve instead of Yah.weh!
- He made a choice, he thought about himself and not about the consequences it would have for others!
- Quite human!
- Men don't care about the consequences their choices can have on others!
- This is why the earth is in the state it is!
Looking for Job
God and Job / Job and God
Job 13:
- He only wants to speak directly to God!
- Have we ever thought of speaking directly to Yah.weh!
- The Hebrews couldn’t do it!
- They asked Moses to do it for them!
- And they kept complaining against Yah.weh and moses!
- When we read and study and think regularly about the Bible, we speak to Yah.weh!
- Thus we use a canal of communication to Yah.weh!
- Because then we show our interest to Yah.weh!
- And Yah.weh can see it!
- If we don’t do it, we show no interest to Yah.weh and he can see it too!
- It is like opening a door to him!
- When we study about Yah.weh regularly, we keep this canal open!
- If not, nothing is left!
- Same with praying to him regularly meaning daily meaning any time for anything!
- It is another way to keep another canal open!
- When we speak to others about Yah.weh and the Bible, we keep open another canal!
- And the more canals we open, the more we want to open others!
- Like the universe and the brain, maintaining is not suffisant, it is essential to create new ways to develop our connections!
God and Job / Job and God
Job 13:
- He only wants to speak directly to God!
- Have we ever thought of speaking directly to Yah.weh!
- The Hebrews couldn’t do it!
- They asked Moses to do it for them!
- And they kept complaining against Yah.weh and moses!
- When we read and study and think regularly about the Bible, we speak to Yah.weh!
- Thus we use a canal of communication to Yah.weh!
- Because then we show our interest to Yah.weh!
- And Yah.weh can see it!
- If we don’t do it, we show no interest to Yah.weh and he can see it too!
- It is like opening a door to him!
- When we study about Yah.weh regularly, we keep this canal open!
- If not, nothing is left!
- Same with praying to him regularly meaning daily meaning any time for anything!
- It is another way to keep another canal open!
- When we speak to others about Yah.weh and the Bible, we keep open another canal!
- And the more canals we open, the more we want to open others!
- Like the universe and the brain, maintaining is not suffisant, it is essential to create new ways to develop our connections!
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- When I stopped at night it was 14,000!
- When I woke up, it was 28,000 visits!
- And it keeps growing very quickly!
- And more languages are waiting for me!
- I published again the pages I published before because I increased the countenance of what i published before!
- it was to thank all the people who have been reading me for these 3 years!
- Now maybe I should explain a bit so you can understand!
- I started publishing on this site about 3 years ago!
- I had many discussions!
- The second year I increased my activity writing on about 10 sites in English!
- The third year i started publishing in different languages on different sites!
- Now my main activity is on quora.com!
- I have been writing on this site for the last months and my activity is growing very quickly!
- I am now qwriting worldwide!
- For example, yesterday evening I was publishing on christianchat.com in English and on quora.com in Indonesian!
- Before Yesterday evening, I had 1,000 visits in Indonesian!
- When I stopped at night it was 14,000!
- When I woke up, it was 28,000 visits!
- And it keeps growing very quickly!
- And more languages are waiting for me!
The two Old and new go hand in hand, thank you
Trusting Yahweh alone in risen Son is what I see to only do, and yet I have my faults too. Standing in trust to Col 1:21-23, even though I have sinned again and have unfortunately a body that does not want to behave, is not yet redeemed. So the best I can do is reckon me dead to sin in this body I am in daily, for me anyways, thanks for your response
Trusting Yahweh alone in risen Son is what I see to only do, and yet I have my faults too. Standing in trust to Col 1:21-23, even though I have sinned again and have unfortunately a body that does not want to behave, is not yet redeemed. So the best I can do is reckon me dead to sin in this body I am in daily, for me anyways, thanks for your response
How long did Daniel from the Bible live?
Daniel completed the book of Daniel about 536 BCE. He was taken into exile in Babylon from Jerusalem in 618 BCE when he was a young man. If he was in his teens or early twenties when he was taken there and if he died several years after completing the book of Daniel then he lived to be over 100 years old.
Job: around 210 years
According to Job 42:16, Job lived an additional 140 years after his tragedies occurred, perhaps to around 210 years total. His long lifespan generally corresponds to that of Terah (Abraham's father), Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
Samuel:
Death and burial. Several years later, after quietly having retired to Ramah, Samuel died. He had already been "old" when he had been called on to anoint Saul. Since Saul reigned forty years, and Samuel had grown sons as an "old" man of perhaps fifty years old, the aged prophet was around ninety when he died.
- People always forget that there is a big difference between the first and the second part of the Bible!
- People used to live longer!
- They had a lot more time to develop their faithfulness to Yah.weh which is quite a big difference and not a small one!
- They had a lot more time to show their faithfulness to Yah.weh!
- Thus a lot to learn from us if we want to develop our personal relationship to Yah.weh!
- If we miss it, we miss everything!
Daniel completed the book of Daniel about 536 BCE. He was taken into exile in Babylon from Jerusalem in 618 BCE when he was a young man. If he was in his teens or early twenties when he was taken there and if he died several years after completing the book of Daniel then he lived to be over 100 years old.
Job: around 210 years
According to Job 42:16, Job lived an additional 140 years after his tragedies occurred, perhaps to around 210 years total. His long lifespan generally corresponds to that of Terah (Abraham's father), Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
Samuel:
Death and burial. Several years later, after quietly having retired to Ramah, Samuel died. He had already been "old" when he had been called on to anoint Saul. Since Saul reigned forty years, and Samuel had grown sons as an "old" man of perhaps fifty years old, the aged prophet was around ninety when he died.
- People always forget that there is a big difference between the first and the second part of the Bible!
- People used to live longer!
- They had a lot more time to develop their faithfulness to Yah.weh which is quite a big difference and not a small one!
- They had a lot more time to show their faithfulness to Yah.weh!
- Thus a lot to learn from us if we want to develop our personal relationship to Yah.weh!
- If we miss it, we miss everything!
Looking for Job
God and Job / Job and God
Job 13:
- He can’t stay silent!
- Can you stay silent?
- The more we learn about Yah.weh, the more we should want to speak about him!
- That’s the basis for a faithful servant of Yah.weh!
- And not from time to time!
- All the time!
- He wants to complain to God!
- Do we want to complain to Yah.weh?
- Do we want to tell our deep feelings to Yah.weh?
- Do we really want to speak to Yah.weh?
- Do we enjoy speaking to Yah.weh?
- Is it similar to eating and drinking and breathing daily?
God and Job / Job and God
Job 13:
- He can’t stay silent!
- Can you stay silent?
- The more we learn about Yah.weh, the more we should want to speak about him!
- That’s the basis for a faithful servant of Yah.weh!
- And not from time to time!
- All the time!
- He wants to complain to God!
- Do we want to complain to Yah.weh?
- Do we want to tell our deep feelings to Yah.weh?
- Do we really want to speak to Yah.weh?
- Do we enjoy speaking to Yah.weh?
- Is it similar to eating and drinking and breathing daily?
Looking for Job
God and Job / Job and God
Job 13:
- The three individuals do not behave correctly with him!
- And at the same time they don’t behave correctly with Yah.weh!
- Yah.weh says it himself!
- Job has nothing to hide from God!
- In fact, no one can hide anything from Yah.weh!
- Only from men!
- He needs to talk to God like eating or drinking or sleeping!
- It is a natural need!
- He is used to being completely connected to Yah.weh!
- Are we completely connected to Yah.weh?
- If we don’t feel it, we have a problem!
God and Job / Job and God
Job 13:
- The three individuals do not behave correctly with him!
- And at the same time they don’t behave correctly with Yah.weh!
- Yah.weh says it himself!
- Job has nothing to hide from God!
- In fact, no one can hide anything from Yah.weh!
- Only from men!
- He needs to talk to God like eating or drinking or sleeping!
- It is a natural need!
- He is used to being completely connected to Yah.weh!
- Are we completely connected to Yah.weh?
- If we don’t feel it, we have a problem!
Looking for Job
God and Job / Job and God
Job 14:
- Job thinks God is judging him!
- Yah.weh acted with the Hebrews according to their deeds!
- According to the situation, he used to punish them on time, sometimes straight away, sometimes later!
- It has always been the same with mankind!
- He has given mankind a lot of time!
- But it won’t last forever!
- He decided to limit human life!
- He is asking God for a rest!
- When he dies he is powerless!
- He thinks that God will remember him!
- To be remembered, it is necessary to be faithful!
- To act faithfully!
- Otherwise, he won’t remember us!
- But for the moment he thinks God has condemned him!
- Job speaks frankly to God!
- Do we speak frankly to Yah.weh?
- He is not afraid of telling him what he thinks!
- Are we afraid of telling him what we think?
- What a relationship!
- What about us?
God and Job / Job and God
Job 14:
- Job thinks God is judging him!
- Yah.weh acted with the Hebrews according to their deeds!
- According to the situation, he used to punish them on time, sometimes straight away, sometimes later!
- It has always been the same with mankind!
- He has given mankind a lot of time!
- But it won’t last forever!
- He decided to limit human life!
- He is asking God for a rest!
- When he dies he is powerless!
- He thinks that God will remember him!
- To be remembered, it is necessary to be faithful!
- To act faithfully!
- Otherwise, he won’t remember us!
- But for the moment he thinks God has condemned him!
- Job speaks frankly to God!
- Do we speak frankly to Yah.weh?
- He is not afraid of telling him what he thinks!
- Are we afraid of telling him what we think?
- What a relationship!
- What about us?
Looking for Job
God and Job / Job and God
Job 16:
- He calls them troublesome comforters!
- They bring problems!
- Something is wrong and unnatural on their part!
- If he were them, he would encourage them!
- Job is mentally and physically down but he still finds the energy to fight back!
- He thinks God has taken everything away from him!
- And his enemies are striking him!
- And he keeps talking about his pain and suffering!
- Thus he is left alone without any comfort!
- He is only waiting for death but till the last breath, he will fight and speak to God!
- He still thinks God will listen to him!
- In fact, it is his only hope he still has!
- Do we think Yah.weh listens to us?
- Do we act so Yah.weh listens to us?
God and Job / Job and God
Job 16:
- He calls them troublesome comforters!
- They bring problems!
- Something is wrong and unnatural on their part!
- If he were them, he would encourage them!
- Job is mentally and physically down but he still finds the energy to fight back!
- He thinks God has taken everything away from him!
- And his enemies are striking him!
- And he keeps talking about his pain and suffering!
- Thus he is left alone without any comfort!
- He is only waiting for death but till the last breath, he will fight and speak to God!
- He still thinks God will listen to him!
- In fact, it is his only hope he still has!
- Do we think Yah.weh listens to us?
- Do we act so Yah.weh listens to us?
Looking for Job
God and Job / Job and God
Job 17:
- He is broken!
- Have you ever been broken?
- Then you can understand his feelings!
- It is always easier to understand someone’s situation when we have personally lived it!
- Unfortunately many people know it better!
- The problem is that they haven’t known such a situation!
- You find such a situation with doctors and people working for human justice!
- In fact, it is everywhere!
- If you just learn it at school or university, it doesn’t work and it will never work!
- That’s why we are where we are!
- Everywhere we hear politicians who know better!
- the problem is they only know communication!
- But real people don’t need communication!
- They need to improve their personal situation!
- Today we only get fakes everywhere!
- We only get liars and lies!
- And people believe them because they want to believe it!
- But the situation will only be worse!
- We get what we deserve!
- And Yah.weh will wait till the last time befor acting against this society!
- There will probably always be people who will say everything is fine when everything is collapsing!
- Let’s think about Hitler in his bunker just at the end of World War 2!
God and Job / Job and God
Job 17:
- He is broken!
- Have you ever been broken?
- Then you can understand his feelings!
- It is always easier to understand someone’s situation when we have personally lived it!
- Unfortunately many people know it better!
- The problem is that they haven’t known such a situation!
- You find such a situation with doctors and people working for human justice!
- In fact, it is everywhere!
- If you just learn it at school or university, it doesn’t work and it will never work!
- That’s why we are where we are!
- Everywhere we hear politicians who know better!
- the problem is they only know communication!
- But real people don’t need communication!
- They need to improve their personal situation!
- Today we only get fakes everywhere!
- We only get liars and lies!
- And people believe them because they want to believe it!
- But the situation will only be worse!
- We get what we deserve!
- And Yah.weh will wait till the last time befor acting against this society!
- There will probably always be people who will say everything is fine when everything is collapsing!
- Let’s think about Hitler in his bunker just at the end of World War 2!
Looking for Job
God and Job / Job and God
Job 17:
- He is waiting for death!
- Have you ever been waiting for death?
- If it is the case, you may understand Job’s situation!
- There is no more hope, nothing left!
- Now if you survive, is it possible to wait for death a second time?
- Or will you fight without any conditions?
- He only sees mockers!
- People spit at him!
- The three individuals are of no help to him!
- He just wants to put an end to his condition and die!
- He has enough!
- He doesn’t want anymore!
- It is really difficult for someone who is so close to God!
- And when you are so close to Yah.weh, does he give you the strength to fight without any conditions?
God and Job / Job and God
Job 17:
- He is waiting for death!
- Have you ever been waiting for death?
- If it is the case, you may understand Job’s situation!
- There is no more hope, nothing left!
- Now if you survive, is it possible to wait for death a second time?
- Or will you fight without any conditions?
- He only sees mockers!
- People spit at him!
- The three individuals are of no help to him!
- He just wants to put an end to his condition and die!
- He has enough!
- He doesn’t want anymore!
- It is really difficult for someone who is so close to God!
- And when you are so close to Yah.weh, does he give you the strength to fight without any conditions?
Looking for Job
God and Job / Job and God
Job 19:
- They irritate his soul!
- They deal harshly with him!
- When we listen carefully to Job speaking of the three individuals and we connect it to God’s judgment regarding the three individuals, we understand better and realize how Job was right when he spoke about their attitude!
- They just want to show that they are better than Job!
- It is quite a usual situation!
- Job always fights back!
- Fighting back is a way of educating people!
- Sometimes we may think it is good for nothing, nothing will change!
- Sometimes we may think people are too old!
- Sometimes we may think it is a way to participate in society!
- And Job is asking God why there is so much violence!
- And he gets no answer!
- And he keeps crying out but there is no justice!
- Everybody has left him!
- He doesn’t understand anything!
- Sometimes it is not necessary to understand to fight back!
- Sometimes it is a way to feel alive!
- Yah.weh’s faithful servants are always active, never passive because Yah.weh is a God of action!
- That’s why the devil is tricky and vicious!
- He knows all that!
- And he is laughing!
God and Job / Job and God
Job 19:
- They irritate his soul!
- They deal harshly with him!
- When we listen carefully to Job speaking of the three individuals and we connect it to God’s judgment regarding the three individuals, we understand better and realize how Job was right when he spoke about their attitude!
- They just want to show that they are better than Job!
- It is quite a usual situation!
- Job always fights back!
- Fighting back is a way of educating people!
- Sometimes we may think it is good for nothing, nothing will change!
- Sometimes we may think people are too old!
- Sometimes we may think it is a way to participate in society!
- And Job is asking God why there is so much violence!
- And he gets no answer!
- And he keeps crying out but there is no justice!
- Everybody has left him!
- He doesn’t understand anything!
- Sometimes it is not necessary to understand to fight back!
- Sometimes it is a way to feel alive!
- Yah.weh’s faithful servants are always active, never passive because Yah.weh is a God of action!
- That’s why the devil is tricky and vicious!
- He knows all that!
- And he is laughing!
Looking for Job
God and Job / Job and God
Job 21:
- Job doesn’t lose patience because he complains to God and not to man!
- He tells them to shut their mouths!
- He thinks the wicked live in peace!
- He thinks God doesn’t punish them!
- They don’t care about God!
- But he still believes God will make them pay!
- Does he think the three individuals are wicked?
- Because they do everything to discourage him!
- But he is still confident in God!
- Are we straight in our boots regarding our faith?
- Do we keep building it up?
- It must be a constant process!
- It must be constantly renewed!
- We must work for it!
- We must live for it!
- We must defend it!
- We must protect it as something which is very precious!
- Our lives depend on it!
God and Job / Job and God
Job 21:
- Job doesn’t lose patience because he complains to God and not to man!
- He tells them to shut their mouths!
- He thinks the wicked live in peace!
- He thinks God doesn’t punish them!
- They don’t care about God!
- But he still believes God will make them pay!
- Does he think the three individuals are wicked?
- Because they do everything to discourage him!
- But he is still confident in God!
- Are we straight in our boots regarding our faith?
- Do we keep building it up?
- It must be a constant process!
- It must be constantly renewed!
- We must work for it!
- We must live for it!
- We must defend it!
- We must protect it as something which is very precious!
- Our lives depend on it!
Looking for Job
God and Job / Job and God
Job 23:
- Job will keep complaining stubbornly!
- But is it stubbornly when you try to survive?
- When it is a question of life or death?
- It means you are alive!
- It means you will never surrender!
- It means you value life!
- It means you want to live!
- And Yah.weh is the God of the living ones because his faithful ones are present in his mind and he won’t forget them!
God and Job / Job and God
Job 23:
- Job will keep complaining stubbornly!
- But is it stubbornly when you try to survive?
- When it is a question of life or death?
- It means you are alive!
- It means you will never surrender!
- It means you value life!
- It means you want to live!
- And Yah.weh is the God of the living ones because his faithful ones are present in his mind and he won’t forget them!