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Zmouth

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I can care less what you think LOL .
Ouch, sounds like I hit a nerve. I will just leave you with this verse as I ponder my nothingness, and let you ponder yours. (See Galatians 6:3)
 

CS1

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You are arguing against the word of God. I am not given to hyper spiritualism. God has declared in His word what He will and what He will not do.

We have an expression that says wishing ain't fishing. Wishing something is not going to make it so. Please show me in scripture where we are to seek miracles and wonders in this world? I can show you where God said to witness for Him and have a testimony that will point others to Christ.

Plant the right seeds if you expect a righteous harvest.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
wqhy is it you think when someone provides biblical refute to yuo it is translated arguing aginst the word of God? Wrong your understandinf is not the word of God You are not the author . LOL what alame prideful response to shut a person down and it will not work anymore.
 

CS1

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Ouch, sounds like I hit a nerve. I will just leave you with this verse as I ponder my nothingness, and let you ponder yours. (See Galatians 6:3)
zmouth you could not hit a nerve with me if you had me on a table trying to remove my Achilles Tendon LOl.
 

CS1

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Never claimed to be your judge. You as well as I will be judged according to the word of God. Jesus Christ will judge our works and our idle words.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
I am not fearful in the least. you try to control people who do NOT AGREE WITH YOUR biblical understanding. You suggest they are aruging aginst the word of God , they are. You suggest God will Judge them to strike fear in them We have no fear. each time you speak you are revealing your true motives., I'm a mod and That is it you chose to make it personal not me. And I am enjoying exposing just how wrong you are as are other here who say wrong things and unbiblical. You have been trolled at your own game and you have been exposed LOL .

Good day.
 

notuptome

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wqhy is it you think when someone provides biblical refute to yuo it is translated arguing aginst the word of God? Wrong your understandinf is not the word of God You are not the author . LOL what alame prideful response to shut a person down and it will not work anymore.
1Pet 3:13 And who is he that will harm you, if ye be followers of that which is good?
14 But and if ye suffer for righteousness’ sake, happy are ye: and be not afraid of their terror, neither be troubled;
15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:
16 ¶ Having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ.
17 For it is better, if the will of God be so, that ye suffer for well doing, than for evil doing.

Don't believe what you see and hear from the ungodly news services. If they can lie to you they will and do so with a big smile.

You are going to do what you will. I'm only advising caution.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

notuptome

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I am not fearful in the least. you try to control people who do NOT AGREE WITH YOUR biblical understanding. You suggest they are aruging aginst the word of God , they are. You suggest God will Judge them to strike fear in them We have no fear. each time you speak you are revealing your true motives., I'm a mod and That is it you chose to make it personal not me. And I am enjoying exposing just how wrong you are as are other here who say wrong things and unbiblical. You have been trolled at your own game and you have been exposed LOL .

Good day.
So you are a troll? Wow the only thing exposed here is your extreme bias toward me.

I hope you feel vindicated.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

7seasrekeyed

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Nope.
We know satan is here and we also know he comes with wonderful displays so as to conquer through lies. In the meantime, God is in us, comforting us through this hard times. Comforting doesn't mean healing or not facing death but being made bold to face them and emerge victorious on the other side. This is the will of God (Rom 8) and the will of God doesn't go against the will of God.
please don't ever tell anyone you have the gift of teaching

and you do not know what the word comfort means

in your economy, is everyone facing death with a grin on their face?

the more you folks try to change what the Bible actually states...what God actually states...the more it seems plausible you have never really heard from Him but just read about Him
 

7seasrekeyed

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You are arguing against the word of God. I am not given to hyper spiritualism. God has declared in His word what He will and what He will not do.

We have an expression that says wishing ain't fishing. Wishing something is not going to make it so. Please show me in scripture where we are to seek miracles and wonders in this world? I can show you where God said to witness for Him and have a testimony that will point others to Christ.

Plant the right seeds if you expect a righteous harvest.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

you are not given to the spiritual truth of the word period

hyper? oh no worries...that's outside of your realm :D

you have an expression and some folks have the word of God and believe it is still relevant

if you have no power, you have no Holy Spirit because the Holy Spirit was given on the day of Pentecost so that Christ's followers would have POWER to witness for Him. why do you think there are so many dead and dull and boring to the point of being sinful churches around? it's because they grind the word to dust and blow it (notice the double meaning?)

you can plant seeds until doom's day...if God does not send the rain...His Spirit...it means nothing even if you think you have some poor little tender leaves sprouting

and correct. wishing is not going to make God stop infilling those who ASK no matter who thinks otherwise

Simon was so impressed he wanted to buy it but you can't buy it either

and as usual you put a spin on the entire op and present a case for asking for miracles....eventually you ALWAYS spin this and try to say that is what this is about. but it isn't it's about your lack of faith and your unbelief in what scripture plainly states

asking for miracles to prove God exists is what an unbeliever might do and God may even act on that because He is, after all, REAL

however, asking for the infilling of the Spirit of God...the Holy Spirit...is ONLY for those who are ALREADY believers

you don't ask if you don't believe. right Roger? let him ask in faith...nothing wavering...if you don't believe to begin with, you are not going to ask

you prove those words true every time
 

7seasrekeyed

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Well I'm so glad you approve of the bible.
and Roger the above is so sarcastic

why can't you be more loving?

I learned that is the way to try and make someone look bad, while trying to make yourself look cuddly, from you

in this very thread
 

Noose

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please don't ever tell anyone you have the gift of teaching

and you do not know what the word comfort means

in your economy, is everyone facing death with a grin on their face?

the more you folks try to change what the Bible actually states...what God actually states...the more it seems plausible you have never really heard from Him but just read about Him
Nope, i'm not a teacher and i can't claim any gift. I also don't and can't change what the bible states, i just read and repeat to the deaf even if they don't get it.

God loves the death of a saint.
Claims of a person being raised from the dead does not glorify God, how so?
Blessed are those that die in the Lord- means that if a person is supposedly returned to this filthy life they are actually cursed. Doesn't it?

How did i change what the bible states?
 
please don't ever tell anyone you have the gift of teaching

and you do not know what the word comfort means

in your economy, is everyone facing death with a grin on their face?

the more you folks try to change what the Bible actually states...what God actually states...the more it seems plausible you have never really heard from Him but just read about Him

There be HUGE difference, between reading the Bible. And, Reading WITH "UNDERSTANDING!"

But, such as it is and goes with "empiricists!" Walking by "sight", and not by Faith! Because, they find themselves at odds with "the world", when trying to "reproduce" it! They can't! So? It gets tossed (watered down) to the point where it can be reproduced!
 
I don't "think" there's any such "denomination" specifically named "The First, er 2nd, etc./ Church of Calvary, God, Apostles, Saints, etc./ of Cesessionists!" Although, "by their fruit", and, sometimes, even written "within the by-laws", or "statements of faith" by any particular assembly of believer's, "hints", or comments, or professions of faith, from "members", even of "the leadership" of such assembly's, in the "regarding" of miracles not occurring in, or during these "present days!" (tradition of man). Or, the only "Time and Place" where God "speaks" to someone, occurs ONLY in the Bible! (inerrancy doctrine/s...again...tradition of man) Which is an "out and out LIE!" But, over the course of time,


I find it amusing, yet broken heartedly sad, at the same time, how the "traditions of men" have "crept in unawares", have "boastfully" gone round proclaiming some "inerrancy, cesessionistic, rapture, infallibility" doctrines, as being "Religious TRUTH!" Which has given rise to even "more" traditions of men making God's Word "void", to a point that being "Religiously Correct", has taken over! "Don't JUDGE!" Yet, apparently, Paul, did some "judging", when he instructed people, to "separate" yourselves from those who preach/teach a "different gospel!"

I guess Paul can, but us, being mere mortals cannot? Science, is not God! Medicine, is not God! (even) Technology, is NOT God!.....Yet, it appears, that these "wonders in the eyes of men", have deceived many a man, woman, and child, into BOWING DOWN, to these "Parlor Tricks, and Games!" To the "point", that when God "proves man the FOOL?" Like when Moses' staff turned into a serpent, which devoured Pharaoh's magicians serpents? "WHAT Tom FOOLERY is THIS?" "There SURLY is some logical explanation for THIS!"

Do you "see" how far the churches have fallen? But, "DON'T Judge?" Don't "Call Them Out?" "DON'T (even) Throw Rocks?"

I "applaud" CS1's OP!

It takes "certain levels of conviction" in "fighting the fires of hell" with the "consuming fire" that comes when Man's spirit does not strive with God's Spirit!

Levels of conviction, that has "long been" made "void" by "Religious Truths" taught from (supposedly) "Higher Institutions of Spiritual Learning, and Education!" Milky's teaching Milky's = "Pew Potato's" Which, if haven't already been deceived into (a) knowing their "final destination", expend much "energies", into their deceiving themselves.

It is a much more profitable "expenditures of energies", into one's "pressing on", then it is in one's continual expenditures in reconciling one's "love of this life, even into death!"

:)...such are the "real" struggles, of the "technologically challenged!" :p

First part was "there", until an accidentally hit key made it "poof!" Glad it found its way back, though! ;)
 

notuptome

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you are not given to the spiritual truth of the word period

hyper? oh no worries...that's outside of your realm :D

you have an expression and some folks have the word of God and believe it is still relevant

if you have no power, you have no Holy Spirit because the Holy Spirit was given on the day of Pentecost so that Christ's followers would have POWER to witness for Him. why do you think there are so many dead and dull and boring to the point of being sinful churches around? it's because they grind the word to dust and blow it (notice the double meaning?)

you can plant seeds until doom's day...if God does not send the rain...His Spirit...it means nothing even if you think you have some poor little tender leaves sprouting

and correct. wishing is not going to make God stop infilling those who ASK no matter who thinks otherwise

Simon was so impressed he wanted to buy it but you can't buy it either

and as usual you put a spin on the entire op and present a case for asking for miracles....eventually you ALWAYS spin this and try to say that is what this is about. but it isn't it's about your lack of faith and your unbelief in what scripture plainly states

asking for miracles to prove God exists is what an unbeliever might do and God may even act on that because He is, after all, REAL

however, asking for the infilling of the Spirit of God...the Holy Spirit...is ONLY for those who are ALREADY believers

you don't ask if you don't believe. right Roger? let him ask in faith...nothing wavering...if you don't believe to begin with, you are not going to ask

you prove those words true every time
Shrill.

Unbelievers can only be persuaded by the word of God not miracles. Miracles are not evangelistic but preaching the gospel is Gods chosen method of saving men's souls.

1Co 1:21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

and Roger the above is so sarcastic

why can't you be more loving?

I learned that is the way to try and make someone look bad, while trying to make yourself look cuddly, from you

in this very thread
I find it incredible how different people hear the word of God differently through the ministry of the Holy Spirit. It is seen in their responses to the word of God. Some cannot accept it because of the messenger. Some reject it because they do not approve of the message but the word of God never fails to accomplish that to which Jehovah God has purposed it.

Always nice to have you participate in the threads.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

7seasrekeyed

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Nope, i'm not a teacher and i can't claim any gift. I also don't and can't change what the bible states, i just read and repeat to the deaf even if they don't get it.

God loves the death of a saint.
Claims of a person being raised from the dead does not glorify God, how so?
Blessed are those that die in the Lord- means that if a person is supposedly returned to this filthy life they are actually cursed. Doesn't it?

How did i change what the bible states?
what is wrong with you to say God loves the death of a saint?

in all my years on Christian forums I have never said to anyone 'what is wrong with you' because it just does not seem to be the kind of thing to say someone unless you know them well and you are having a tiff and by tomorrow it will all be forgotten anyway

in your case however, with what you wrote above? I'm sayin' it

Blessed are those that die in the Lord- means that if a person is supposedly returned to this filthy life they are actually cursed. Doesn't it?
what is wrong with you?

HELLO!!! why did Jesus bring Lazarus back to life? YOU are saying that Jesus was cursing Lazarus

lost in a supermarket for sure
 

7seasrekeyed

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There be HUGE difference, between reading the Bible. And, Reading WITH "UNDERSTANDING!"

But, such as it is and goes with "empiricists!" Walking by "sight", and not by Faith! Because, they find themselves at odds with "the world", when trying to "reproduce" it! They can't! So? It gets tossed (watered down) to the point where it can be reproduced!
I'm still reeling from the last post I answered above this one

they walk among us

if I tended to pound my head onna wall I'd be doing so now

those cartoons where someone runs through a wall and there is a hole left in the shape of the body ~ that would be me

good thing I have dog to pet. they say that calms you

LOL!
 

7seasrekeyed

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Shrill.

Unbelievers can only be persuaded by the word of God not miracles. Miracles are not evangelistic but preaching the gospel is Gods chosen method of saving men's souls.

1Co 1:21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.


I find it incredible how different people hear the word of God differently through the ministry of the Holy Spirit. It is seen in their responses to the word of God. Some cannot accept it because of the messenger. Some reject it because they do not approve of the message but the word of God never fails to accomplish that to which Jehovah God has purposed it.

Always nice to have you participate in the threads.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
I find it incredible you never see yourself and what you do

you sure do believe in justification though...justification in dogmatic scripture mashup theory, with ample amounts of variance between self congratulation and attempts at spreading cold love

dude I don't just participate in threads. I practice what I preach and I know what I am talking about

the whole thing is only theory to you

the word is not alive to you. you use it like a courtroom in which the judge left this world, the jury is bored to death and soon to join him and the prosecutor is the devil himself

thankfully, if we know the defence, we are free to go
 

notuptome

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I find it incredible you never see yourself and what you do

you sure do believe in justification though...justification in dogmatic scripture mashup theory, with ample amounts of variance between self congratulation and attempts at spreading cold love

dude I don't just participate in threads. I practice what I preach and I know what I am talking about

the whole thing is only theory to you

the word is not alive to you. you use it like a courtroom in which the judge left this world, the jury is bored to death and soon to join him and the prosecutor is the devil himself

thankfully, if we know the defence, we are free to go
Yeah right.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
Shrill.

Unbelievers can only be persuaded by the word of God not miracles. Miracles are not evangelistic but preaching the gospel is Gods chosen method of saving men's souls.

1Co 1:21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.


I find it incredible how different people hear the word of God differently through the ministry of the Holy Spirit. It is seen in their responses to the word of God. Some cannot accept it because of the messenger. Some reject it because they do not approve of the message but the word of God never fails to accomplish that to which Jehovah God has purposed it.

Always nice to have you participate in the threads.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

Seems a lot more then "trolls" have been "exposed" in this thread, Roger!

I have prayed for your future "struggle!"