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Kroogz

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also, important to note, when we are sleeping we can ben most vulnerable to attacks.
Why would you say that?

Why not......When we are sleeping we are most protected by the Lord Jesus Christ?

This is the problem.

1. FOCUS.

If the focus is the Lord Jesus Christ and what He has done for us......the rest is a little bump here and there.

Take the FOCUS off of Him....molehills turn into mountains.
 
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When a person is interpetering the bible do you not consider the nature of God?

The bible say that one that does not have the hs will not understand it.

It always amazes me what people that do not can interpret in the bible. If it doesn't fit with one verse it doest fit with the whole bible.

God, “Your eyes are too pure to look on evil” (Habakkuk 1:13)

He has the devil and the doves which I think refers to angels tell him of our sins on earth.

This doesn't mean the Devil considers his minions to be brothers. There is no love in him to do so.

Neither can the devil force his will/presence in heaven God allows him in.
Now you've got it.
 
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Why would you say that?

Why not......When we are sleeping we are most protected by the Lord Jesus Christ?

This is the problem.

1. FOCUS.

If the focus is the Lord Jesus Christ and what He has done for us......the rest is a little bump here and there.

Take the FOCUS off of Him....molehills turn into mountains.

Amen. Good response.

When we sleep we are safe because God gives his children rest. It's no different than day time. God is watching over us day and night.

The truth is when we are living in sin we are more vulnerable.
 
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Amen. Good response.

When we sleep we are safe because God gives his children rest. It's no different than day time. God is watching over us day and night.

The truth is when we are living in sin we are more vulnerable.
We?

Christians can live in sin?
 

Karlon

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Why would you say that?

Why not......When we are sleeping we are most protected by the Lord Jesus Christ?

This is the problem.

1. FOCUS.

If the focus is the Lord Jesus Christ and what He has done for us......the rest is a little bump here and there.

Take the FOCUS off of Him....molehills turn into mountains.
although Psalm 3:5 & 4:8 are totally true & we are protected, there's no where in the Bible that says when we are sleeping the devil will never tempt us!!! think about it.
 
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Bluejean_bible

Are you saying becuase God allows satan presence in heaven he would also alow his servants to be currupted?

This doesn't mean our Father changes he is the same. He's not corrupted by the devils presence.
 
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although Psalm 3:5 & 4:8 are totally true & we are protected, there's no where in the Bible that says when we are sleeping the devil will never tempt us!!! think about it.
The bible says Jesus woke up a great time before sunrise. Many think this is becuase the demons hounded him at night he rose early also another reason could be that christ Jesus liked to talk to our Father in the cool of the day.

Also who hasn't had a bad dream? We often can't say get thee hence when asleep but sometimes you can.
 

Kroogz

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although Psalm 3:5 & 4:8 are totally true & we are protected, there's no where in the Bible that says when we are sleeping the devil will never tempt us!!! think about it.
Tempting is not the issue of the thread. It's possession or indwelling.

You are totally protected at ALL times. It is up to us to believe it.

If we don't believe it......It's a free for all for all we want to believe.
 

Kroogz

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No Scripture says Satan cannot enter our fleshly abode.

Satan, Prince of the Demons can enter the abode of God but not the weak mortal flesh of mortals God's Spirit inhabits?
If the Spirits presence within us made us perfect we could never disappoint God within by our actions. Because where we go and all that we do,he is there also.

Satan put the thorn, a messenger of Satan, into the flesh of Apostle Paul. 2 Corinthians 12.
Paul,said to be the greatest among the Apostles of Christ.
So? Has nothing to do with demons or satan INDWELLING believers.

We all are influenced and come upon by the freaks....They can't indwell or possess a believer.....You have no scripture for that.

If it could happen, we would have no nonsense scripture telling us so. We would not have to "guess" or argue about it.
 
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So? Has nothing to do with demons or satan INDWELLING believers.

We all are influenced and come upon by the freaks....They can't indwell or possess a believer.....You have no scripture for that.

If it could happen, we would have no nonsense scripture telling us so. We would not have to "guess" or argue about it.
You're on the wrong board.


I was referring to Biblical matters. Satan is the prince of demons.

I should have clarified. My apologies.

For sisters and brothers here:
https://biblehub.com/topical/naves/s/satan--the_prince_of_demons.htm
 

Karlon

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Tempting is not the issue of the thread. It's possession or indwelling.

You are totally protected at ALL times. It is up to us to believe it.

If we don't believe it......It's a free for all for all we want to believe.
falling for a temptation can lead to being possessed.
 
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We?

Christians can live in sin?

Yes, for a time or season. Circumstances we might not understand in another's life. Always pray and choose to love those struggling. Only God knows the heart of man/woman.

We do have free will. One can choose sin, be deceived, and become a mess.

Thank God for His mercy.
 

Blain

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A Christian cannot be possessed by demons. The Word tells us we are sealed by the promised Holy Spirit. Look it up.
O don't believe a christian can be posessed they can be tormented yes but not posessed they can be influenced as well but a demon cannot enter into them nor idwel in them
 

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Can a Christian have a demon dwelling inside of them?

Yes or no?
No...
I trust that we all believe that Christians can be oppressed or harassed outwardly by demons, but that is not my question.
Well, Not me, I believe all the demons were cast out in the first century, So not only can we not be possessed neither can non Christians.

They were cast out and are now in chains of darkness reserved for the day of the Lord then they will be released out of the pit to torment men in the upcoming tribulation period, when the pit will be opened as a means of judgment upon the world.

So not only do I believe I can not be possessed but I don't even think about them or consider them at all apart from the fact they are now bound (2 Pet 2:4)and therefore they have zero effect or influence on me.
 
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Can a Christian have a demon dwelling inside of them?

Yes or no?

Whatever your position is, please support it with scripture which can then be scrutinized by everybody here in order to determine whether or not those scriptures truly say what anybody here might claim they say in context.

I trust that we all believe that Christians can be oppressed or harassed outwardly by demons, but that is not my question.

Again, can a Christian have a demon dwelling inside of them?

Yes or no?

Btw, I am not starting this thread in order to set off another all-too-common ruckus here in the BDF. Instead, as we all should already know, if we are honest with ourselves, there are a lot of Christians in this world who are struggling tremendously with things like depression, all sorts of illnesses or diseases, and lust (especially in a sexual sense), and I am seeking to address and determine whether or not things like this could sometimes be directly related to demons dwelling inside of them. In other words, my goal is to potentially help people to be delivered from various torments, and not to set off some sort of free-for-all here, so please present your cases civilly, respectfully, and with scriptural backing.
(Sorry, there is a dearth of doctrinal Scripture regarding this topic.)

Thank you.
The topic of this thread is another example of Scripture sometimes raising more questions than it answers.
Yes, some of what was viewed as demon-possession in the NT era is viewed as mental illness in the modern era.
It appears as though therapy can help with some types of mental illness, and addictions may be cured by devotion to Christ,
but beware of fake miracle healers, quack doctors, drug pushers and other scam artists,
including those making money off of sexual perversions such as trans-surgery.
(Sorry, but there is a dearth of doctrinal Scripture regarding this topic.)
 

PaulThomson

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Can a Christian have a demon dwelling inside of them?

Yes or no?

Whatever your position is, please support it with scripture which can then be scrutinized by everybody here in order to determine whether or not those scriptures truly say what anybody here might claim they say in context.

I trust that we all believe that Christians can be oppressed or harassed outwardly by demons, but that is not my question.

Again, can a Christian have a demon dwelling inside of them?

Yes or no?

Btw, I am not starting this thread in order to set off another all-too-common ruckus here in the BDF. Instead, as we all should already know, if we are honest with ourselves, there are a lot of Christians in this world who are struggling tremendously with things like depression, all sorts of illnesses or diseases, and lust (especially in a sexual sense), and I am seeking to address and determine whether or not things like this could sometimes be directly related to demons dwelling inside of them. In other words, my goal is to potentially help people to be delivered from various torments, and not to set off some sort of free-for-all here, so please present your cases civilly, respectfully, and with scriptural backing.

Thank you.
Yes.

We are comprised of body soul and spirit. Our body/soul/spirit is a temple designed for God to dwell in. The spirit is like the holy holies that nothing defiling could enter and live. The soul is like the priest's domain and the body is like the court of the outer court. Using a castle anaology, we could say that the spirit is the keep, the soul is the bailey, and the body is the rest of the castle.

2Co 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
2Co 6:15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
2Co 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
2Co 6:17
Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
2Co 6:18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

1Co 6:13 Meats for the belly, and the belly for meats: but God shall destroy both it and them. Now the body is not for fornication, but for the Lord; and the Lord for the body.
1Co 6:14 And God hath both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power.
1Co 6:15 Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid.
1Co 6:16 What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.
1Co 6:17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.
1Co 6:18 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.
1Co 6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
1Co 6:20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

The spirit of the new believer is purified and sealed from anything that pollutes. But the soul/mind and the body of the believer ar able to be breached by demons, and they can establish a presence in them.

I had been involved with occult and new age theory and practices before surrendering to Jesus Christ. I had demons in my soul/body that would often make my mind think obscene thoughts about Jesus when I tried to read my Bible. These thoughts stopped after I went to my pastor for deliverance.
 

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what makes you say that?
thanks for your question. while i know i can never be demon possessed, because i am a strong believing Christian, i thought people weak in the faith could be possessed because the devil knows the weaknesses of everyone. too, i thought what many people think which is when you have a bad dream the devil can move in. we probably all have heard of dreams where there seems to be a high level of demonic activity. we are in the subconscious state while sleeping. for the 1st time, i performed some research on demon possession of Christians. i discovered there aren't any examples in the Bible about Christians being possessed. i saw that some Christians believe you can be but the number is few. we can be influenced by demons but not possessed by them. when we begin to entertain sinful thoughts, the Holy Spirit nudges us immediately to stop. if Christians allow sin to rule in their lives, demons will move in but ABOVE that is 1st John teaches, "for greater is He that is in you....". & by God's super great grace, we are new creatures in Christ: 2nd Corinthians 5:7: "in Christ....a new creature....". God, Jesus & the Holy Spirit aren't going to be in habitat with the demons & us. we are purchased by the blood of Jesus & belong SOLELY to Him! so i thank you all for this thread because i learned the truth now! praise the Lord Jesus!!!!!!!!
 

Blain

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thanks for your question. while i know i can never be demon possessed, because i am a strong believing Christian, i thought people weak in the faith could be possessed because the devil knows the weaknesses of everyone. too, i thought what many people think which is when you have a bad dream the devil can move in. we probably all have heard of dreams where there seems to be a high level of demonic activity. we are in the subconscious state while sleeping. for the 1st time, i performed some research on demon possession of Christians. i discovered there aren't any examples in the Bible about Christians being possessed. i saw that some Christians believe you can be but the number is few. we can be influenced by demons but not possessed by them. when we begin to entertain sinful thoughts, the Holy Spirit nudges us immediately to stop. if Christians allow sin to rule in their lives, demons will move in but ABOVE that is 1st John teaches, "for greater is He that is in you....". & by God's super great grace, we are new creatures in Christ: 2nd Corinthians 5:7: "in Christ....a new creature....". God, Jesus & the Holy Spirit aren't going to be in habitat with the demons & us. we are purchased by the blood of Jesus & belong SOLELY to Him! so i thank you all for this thread because i learned the truth now! praise the Lord Jesus!!!!!!!!
I am glad you did your own research and discovered the truth