Destruction

[Sirk]

1 CORINTHIANS 3:16
Don’t you know that you yourselves are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit lives in you? (17) If anyone destroys God’s temple, God will destroy him; for God’s temple is sacred and you are that temple.

God's word plainly states that He will destroy anyone who destroys His temple. His temple is the believer. Be careful you aren't destroying a temple of God.

 

[DOMINICHI]

1 CORINTHIANS 3:16
Don’t you know that you yourselves are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit lives in you? (17) If anyone destroys God’s temple, God will destroy him; for God’s temple is sacred and you are that temple.

God's word plainly states that He will destroy anyone who destroys His temple. His temple is the believer. Be careful you aren't destroying a temple of God.

Special snowflakes don't last long in hell.

YOU be careful.

 

[Tintin]

Special snowflakes don't last long in hell.

YOU be careful.

Wow. What is your problem? Grow up.

 

[kaylagrl]

Special snowflakes don't last long in hell.

YOU be careful.

Weird response...

 

[PurerInHeart]

1 CORINTHIANS 3:16
Don’t you know that you yourselves are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit lives in you? (17) If anyone destroys God’s temple, God will destroy him; for God’s temple is sacred and you are that temple.

God's word plainly states that He will destroy anyone who destroys His temple. His temple is the believer. Be careful you aren't destroying a temple of God.

Yes, that is correct, with one exception. If you are in Christ, His blood is powerful enough to wash away any sin- even taking the life of a Christian. If it were not so, Paul, whom most of the New Testament was written through, would have no chance. This is brilliant of God- to show us that He can save anyone, no matter how they have sinned. Paul said he was chief of sinners, so if he can be saved, anyone can.

 

[Scriptureplz]

1 CORINTHIANS 3:16
Don’t you know that you yourselves are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit lives in you? (17) If anyone destroys God’s temple, God will destroy him; for God’s temple is sacred and you are that temple.

God's word plainly states that He will destroy anyone who destroys His temple. His temple is the believer. Be careful you aren't destroying a temple of God.[/QUOTE

Physical, not spiritual destruction.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

1 CORINTHIANS 3:16
Don’t you know that you yourselves are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit lives in you? (17) If anyone destroys God’s temple, God will destroy him; for God’s temple is sacred and you are that temple.

God's word plainly states that He will destroy anyone who destroys His temple. His temple is the believer. Be careful you aren't destroying a temple of God.

Physical, not spiritual destruction.

Oh really? Do have scripture that proves this is what Paul meant in this instance? This is the same word used 2 Peter 2:12 that describes the fate of false teachers and Christians who follow them, who destroy GOD's temple with their ungodly behavior and lies.

If anyone destroys God’s temple, God will destroy this one. For God’s temple is holy, which you are. 1 Corinthians 3:17

But these persons, like irrational animals born [only with] natural [instincts] for capture and killing, blaspheming about things they do not understand, in their destruction will also be destroyed, 2 Peter 2:12​

 

[Grace777x70]

It is always good to read any scripture "in context" or that text will con you. Here is a clear explanation of 1 Cor 3:17 .

1 Corinthians 3:17: The preceding illustration about building on the foundation of Christ has been applied on an individual level to teach about people’s personal responsibility for their own actions (see note 3 at 1 Corinthians 3:13). However, it must be remembered that in context, Paul was speaking about ministers and whether or not they were building up God’s church with the proper teaching (see note 1 at 1 Corinthians 3:10).

Therefore, Paul’s teaching here about defiling the temple of God is not speaking specifically to individuals doing something to defile themselves, but it is rather a warning against anyone defiling the church with wrong teaching. This would include Paul and Apollos (1 Corinthians 3:5-6), but it also would refer back to those individuals whom Paul rebuked in the first chapter for causing division in the body at Corinth.

This is a warning especially for ministers, that they had better make sure they are speaking God’s Word for they will have to give an account to God.


Remember that Paul said those who were guilty of using the wrong building materials (works of the flesh - see note 3 at 1 Corinthians 3:13) would suffer loss, but they themselves would be saved (see note 6 at 1 Corinthians 3:15). Therefore, Paul was not speaking of utter destruction when he used the word “destroy.”

The Greek word that was translated “destroy” here is “PHTHEIRO.” It was only used in seven scriptures in the New Testament, and six of those times, it was translated “corrupt” or “corrupted” (1 Corinthians 15:33; 2 Corinthians 7:2, 11:3; Ephesians 4:22; Jude 10; and Revelation 19:2). The only two other translations are here in 1 Corinthians 3:17. This same Greek word that was translated “destroy” was also translated “defile” here.

Andrew Wommack's Living Commentary.

The same applies to the false teachers in 2 Peter 2:12

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

1 Corinthians 3:17:[/B] The preceding illustration about building on the foundation of Christ has been applied on an individual level to teach about people’s personal responsibility for their own actions (see note 3 at 1 Corinthians 3:13). However, it must be remembered that in context, Paul was speaking about ministers and whether or not they were building up God’s church with the proper teaching [/B](see note 1 at 1 Corinthians 3:10).

Therefore, Paul’s teaching here about defiling the temple of God is not speaking specifically to individuals doing something to defile themselves, but it is rather a warning against anyone defiling the church with wrong teaching. This would include Paul and Apollos (1 Corinthians 3:5-6), but it also would refer back to those individuals whom Paul rebuked in the first chapter for causing division in the body at Corinth[/B].

This is a warning especially for ministers, that they had better make sure they are speaking God’s Word for they will have to give an account to God.

Indeed. Read 2 Peter 2 about the fate of such men and see if that doesn't raise the hair on the back of your neck.

These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever. 2 Peter 2:17​

 

[Grace777x70]

This goes along with the other teaching about 1 Cor 3:10-17

This is, no doubt, an allusion to the method of conduct in the physical temple at Jerusalem. There were very strict laws governing things that would defile the temple (Leviticus 15:31, 20:3; Numbers 19:20; Ezekiel 5:11, and 23:38-39). A classic scriptural example of this is when Paul was accused of letting a Gentile enter the temple (Acts 21:27-31). The Jews sought to kill Paul for this defiling of God’s temple.

Paul was saying that in the same way the Jews would not allow the physical temple in Jerusalem to be defiled, so should they have recognized that God will not allow His spiritual temple in people’s hearts to be defiled.

This is not speaking of God totally damning someone who defiles the temple of God. However, no degree of punishment from God is desirable, and so this is a very stern warning to those who would defile the body of Christ through their wrong teaching.

Andrew Wommack's Living Commentary.

 

[Grace777x70]

It is so important to take all scripture in "context"..or we can "make" it say what we want. I encourage people to read scripture in context when a scripture by itself is being presented without the context it was written in and taking the clear known scriptures to compare it with.. All scripture must be compared with other scripture.

Never let an obscure scripture rob you of the truth of the very clear scriptures. If the obscure scriptures seems to contradict known clear ones - then we are reading it wrong and we need to rely on the Holy Spirit for proper understanding of it.

The whole chapter 2 in 2 Peter is talking about false prophets in verse 1...then in verse 9 Peter talks about the unrighteous ( the unbeliever )..then in verse 13..they are stains and blemishes ( believers have no spot or blemish because of Jesus..1 Peter 1:19 Eph 5:27 Eph 1:4 )..all through that chapter he is not describing a believer in Christ.

Here is an excellent response about 2 Peter 2:20 from mailmandan:

Quote:

2 Peter 2:20 - Those who are truly born of God have received a new nature, a divine nature, and they have new and different appetites and desires. They have been transformed from pigs and dogs into sheep. The change is more than just cosmetic, as in 2 Peter 2:20. *These cleaned up on the outside dogs and pigs were never sheep.

*Compare 2 Peter 1:4 - "partakers of the divine nature," having escaped the corruption - Strongs #5356 that is in the world through lust with 2 Peter 2:20 - with they escaped the pollutions - Strongs #3356 (different Greek word) of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, yet they are again entangled therein, and overcome. *Notice that 2 Peter 2:20 did not mention them being "partakers of the divine nature."

Corruption (Strongs #5356) (to shrivel or wither, spoil , ruin , deprave, corrupt , defile, to destroy by means of corrupting, to spoil as does milk). Corruption - describes decomposition or rotting of an organism and the accompanying stench. The utter depravity of the fallen flesh and the resultant moral decomposition of the world opposed to God is driven by it sinful lusts or evil desires. Internal corruption.

Pollutions/Defilements (Strongs #3393) ("pollutions", "filthy things", "contaminations", "world's filth") describes the state of being tainted or stained by evil and refers to impurity, impure, tainted, defilement, foulness or pollution. Pollutions/Defilement refers to what is on the outside (2 Peter 2:20). But genuine believers have escaped the "corruption that is in the world through lust" (2 Peter 1:4).

*Corruption is deeper than pollutions/defilements on the outside: it is decay on the inside.

Having the knowledge of Jesus Christ does not save a person if there is no heart submission to that knowledge. The latter end is worse than the beginning for these men because rejecting this knowledge will make them more accountable at the judgment.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

The whole chapter 2 in 2 Peter is talking about false prophets in verse 1...then in verse 9 Peter talks about the unrighteous ( the unbeliever )..then in verse 13..they are stains and blemishes ( believers have no spot or blemish because of Jesus..1 Peter 1:19 Eph 5:27 Eph 1:4 )..all through that chapter he is not describing a believer in Christ.

This is just falderal. Verse 13 shows that they were indeed Christians because they participated in their love feasts, and verse 15 says that they left the straight path.

being harmed [as the] wages of unrighteousness. Considering reveling in the daytime a pleasure, [they are] stains and blemishes, carousing in their deceitful pleasures [when they] feast together with you, having eyes full of [desire for] an adulteress and unceasing from sin, enticing unstable persons, [and] having hearts trained for greediness. Accursed children! [By] leaving the straight path, they have gone astray, [because they] followed the way of Balaam the [son of] Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness, 2 Peter 2:13-15​

 

[Sirk]

It is always good to read any scripture "in context" or that text will con you. Here is a clear explanation of 1 Cor 3:17 .

1 Corinthians 3:17: The preceding illustration about building on the foundation of Christ has been applied on an individual level to teach about people’s personal responsibility for their own actions (see note 3 at 1 Corinthians 3:13). However, it must be remembered that in context, Paul was speaking about ministers and whether or not they were building up God’s church with the proper teaching (see note 1 at 1 Corinthians 3:10).

Therefore, Paul’s teaching here about defiling the temple of God is not speaking specifically to individuals doing something to defile themselves, but it is rather a warning against anyone defiling the church with wrong teaching. This would include Paul and Apollos (1 Corinthians 3:5-6), but it also would refer back to those individuals whom Paul rebuked in the first chapter for causing division in the body at Corinth.

This is a warning especially for ministers, that they had better make sure they are speaking God’s Word for they will have to give an account to God.


Remember that Paul said those who were guilty of using the wrong building materials (works of the flesh - see note 3 at 1 Corinthians 3:13) would suffer loss, but they themselves would be saved (see note 6 at 1 Corinthians 3:15). Therefore, Paul was not speaking of utter destruction when he used the word “destroy.”

The Greek word that was translated “destroy” here is “PHTHEIRO.” It was only used in seven scriptures in the New Testament, and six of those times, it was translated “corrupt” or “corrupted” (1 Corinthians 15:33; 2 Corinthians 7:2, 11:3; Ephesians 4:22; Jude 10; and Revelation 19:2). The only two other translations are here in 1 Corinthians 3:17. This same Greek word that was translated “destroy” was also translated “defile” here.

Andrew Wommack's Living Commentary.

The same applies to the false teachers in 2 Peter 2:12

Yes....I know Paul was talking about teachers and pastors.

 

[Scriptureplz]

Oh really? Do have scripture that proves this is what Paul meant in this instance? This is the same word used 2 Peter 2:12 that describes the fate of false teachers and Christians who follow them, who destroy GOD's temple with their ungodly behavior and lies.

If anyone destroys God’s temple, God will destroy this one. For God’s temple is holy, which you are. 1 Corinthians 3:17

But these persons, like irrational animals born [only with] natural [instincts] for capture and killing, blaspheming about things they do not understand, in their destruction will also be destroyed, 2 Peter 2:12​

The other truths that I have from Gods Word tell me that we cannot lose salvation, and it is because of HIM that that is so, not because of us. His promises in His Word cannot be revoked because He cannot deny Himself.

[h=1]1 Thessalonians 5:23-24[/h] [SUP]23 [/SUP]And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
[SUP]24 [/SUP]Faithful is he that calleth you, who also will do it.

 

[Grace777x70]

Yes....I know Paul was talking about teachers and pastors.

I thought you did too...some people take that isolated scripture out of it's setting and use it to say "God will send you to eternal damnation if you defile the temple*"....what they mean is if you do sin in the flesh that they don't do....then you are defiling the temple....when in reality slander and malice are sins too. All sinning are works of the flesh.


Of course the context shows about watching what teachers are preaching. Paul preached Christ and His grace. This is the foundation.

 

[Sirk]

I thought you did too...some people take that isolated scripture out of it's setting and use it to say "God will send you to eternal damnation if you defile the temple*"....what they mean is if you do sin in the flesh that they don't do....then you are defiling the temple....when in reality slander and malice are sins too. All sinning are works of the flesh.


Of course the context shows about watching what teachers are preaching. Paul preached Christ and His grace. This is the foundation.

It's interesting to me that in that verse in the op, God says he will destroy them. What does that mean really. Kinda sounds like they get the boot to me if all they come to heavens door with is hay, wood and straw.

 

[Sirk]

Special snowflakes don't last long in hell.

YOU be careful.

Are you a pastor...or teacher?

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

It's interesting to me that in that verse in the op, God says he will destroy them. What does that mean really. Kinda sounds like they get the boot to me if all they come to heavens door with is hay, wood and straw.

Kind of like an unprofitable servant who produces nothing of worth.

 

[Grace777x70]

Those that teach false doctrines whether they are true believers or not will not fare well in this life as Peter shows when he starts 2 Peter 2.

Jesus said there would be tares along with the wheat...so they would be in the feasts with them but in reality the have forsaken the way of Christ which is to believe on Him and walk with His life in us.

And IF these are Christians it does not say they go to hell - it says they can be destroyed here by their living here on this earth - and by their teachings that do not say to depend on Christ's righteousness alone for salvation.

2 Peter 2:1 (NASB)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will also be false teachers among you, who will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves.
"denying the Master " is to rely on your own works for salvation and not on the completed work of Christ by grace through faith alone.

Satan and his horde do not come to the believer in Christ and say "Sin all you want" because no one would for fall for such a lie. Instead they come as "ministers of righteousness".

They want us to live by our own D.I.Y. self-righteousness/holiness so that we will be not be depending on what Christ has done for us by grace through faith alone for salvation.

This cuts us off from receiving the grace of God in our lives.

2 Corinthians 11:14-15 (KJV)
[SUP]14 [/SUP] And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

[SUP]15 [/SUP] Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. ( notice that is "their" works )

This below is what satan is really after...this is why he has false teachers in our midst. He wants us to fall away from grace and depend on our own performance.

1 Peter 1:13
[SUP]13 [/SUP] Therefore, prepare your minds for action, keep sober in spirit, fix your hope completely on the grace being brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ.

 

[Sirk]

If any of you thought when I spoke of destroying the temple of God in a physical sense, like thru smoking or whatever I am sorry for the confusion. What I was referring too and speaking of is teachers and pastors. That verse in 1 Corinthians is specifically talking to pastors and teachers. Paul is addressing false teaching and that any pastor or teacher who leads someone astray will be destroyed when they stand before the Almighty. Pretty scary stuff if you hold yourself up as one in my estimation.