You are completely mistaken. The Lord does not ask us to accept error, we are to discuss error we think we find in interpretation. That is to be limited to interpretation of scripture. When you insert the name of any people you are going against God. You are setting yourself up as a God who is capable of judging a human. You are asked to judge what is right and wrong. That is an entirely different issue.
Did Christ change the world or fulfill what was said of the world?
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none of that addresses what I posted. certain people misuse scripture and what Jesus said by taking what He said about judging out of context, such as you have done in several posts now. you use scripture in a way that suggests you simply wish to silence any critique of your understanding.
When Jesus said do not judge, He also said WATCH OUT FOR FALSE PROPHETS a little further down in the passage. AND He also said by their fruit (the false prophets) you will recognize them. So unless we are able to detect these false prophets/teachers, we will believe any wind of doctrine...as Paul warns against...and fall into deception
Jesus actually allows for us to know the difference. He never said Do not judge, and left it there. Taking those three words out of context would seem to indicate you cherry pick what you want to believe. I try not to do that
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First, go back and look at what our argument was about
the person in question criticized me claiming I just wanted to argue, because I called her out
second, she is sinning openly here. I asked you in another thread who is openly prophesying to be gay and claiming to be born again and in need of chastening. and I know what those threads usually consist of, self righteous people judging others, I been here awhile my friend, how long you been here?
third. The person I am calling out openly does this same sin continually, not just to me but others, and she keeps getting called out for it, and this man called us instigators, so yeah. He is an enabler,
the person in question criticized me claiming I just wanted to argue, because I called her out
second, she is sinning openly here. I asked you in another thread who is openly prophesying to be gay and claiming to be born again and in need of chastening. and I know what those threads usually consist of, self righteous people judging others, I been here awhile my friend, how long you been here?
third. The person I am calling out openly does this same sin continually, not just to me but others, and she keeps getting called out for it, and this man called us instigators, so yeah. He is an enabler,
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do you mean the post wherein you once again made false statements
it was answered. you do exactly what you say others do
the entire thing is to avoid responding to scripture that shows your conclusions on the law are not biblical
here is that post:
no I am not completely mistaken. we ARE discussing the errors you are making in your interpretation. we have used scripture and quoted it directly from the New Testament. You refuse to discuss it and simply ignore those posts. No one is going against God here; that is more nonsense you are prone to say when you cannot refute scripture that disagrees with your conjecture. I am not setting myself up as God. That is total nonsense. You cannot argue against scripture so you make silly accusations. I have judged what is false in your interpretations and so have many others. That is not a different issue. It is the same issue over and over and over etc
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it was answered. you do exactly what you say others do
the entire thing is to avoid responding to scripture that shows your conclusions on the law are not biblical
here is that post:
no I am not completely mistaken. we ARE discussing the errors you are making in your interpretation. we have used scripture and quoted it directly from the New Testament. You refuse to discuss it and simply ignore those posts. No one is going against God here; that is more nonsense you are prone to say when you cannot refute scripture that disagrees with your conjecture. I am not setting myself up as God. That is total nonsense. You cannot argue against scripture so you make silly accusations. I have judged what is false in your interpretations and so have many others. That is not a different issue. It is the same issue over and over and over etc
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none of that addresses what I posted. certain people misuse scripture and what Jesus said by taking what He said about judging out of context, such as you have done in several posts now. you use scripture in a way that suggests you simply wish to silence any critique of your understanding.
When Jesus said do not judge, He also said WATCH OUT FOR FALSE PROPHETS a little further down in the passage. AND He also said by their fruit (the false prophets) you will recognize them. So unless we are able to detect these false prophets/teachers, we will believe any wind of doctrine...as Paul warns against...and fall into deception
Jesus actually allows for us to know the difference. He never said Do not judge, and left it there. Taking those three words out of context would seem to indicate you cherry pick what you want to believe. I try not to do that
please tell us all why you choose not to believe the highlighted things Jesus said and just choose one thing?
you create a false Jesus when you fail to acknowledge what He actually said just because you wish to silence the person who asks the question of you
When Jesus said do not judge, He also said WATCH OUT FOR FALSE PROPHETS a little further down in the passage. AND He also said by their fruit (the false prophets) you will recognize them. So unless we are able to detect these false prophets/teachers, we will believe any wind of doctrine...as Paul warns against...and fall into deception
Jesus actually allows for us to know the difference. He never said Do not judge, and left it there. Taking those three words out of context would seem to indicate you cherry pick what you want to believe. I try not to do that
please tell us all why you choose not to believe the highlighted things Jesus said and just choose one thing?
you create a false Jesus when you fail to acknowledge what He actually said just because you wish to silence the person who asks the question of you
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Perhaps Blik or Pilgrim can advise us as to why they choose to avoid responding to certain scripture and simply repeat the taken out of context passages or verses they are depending on to make their case for them.
The Bible teaches that truth is not subjective, but rather objective. Simply put, there is one truth and not several and Jesus never said do not judge anything, which is what Pilgrim is trying to pass off as truth.
When we refute error, we are in agreement with God. This has nothing to do with personalities or judging a person's heart. It is false to claim we are never to judge. Further, is we never judge or point out sin, then it means there is no way to deal with sin and sin is ongoing in the life of a person or in a congregation.
So let's try to understand why Pilgrim ignores the context and insists we should judge nothing at all
The Bible teaches that truth is not subjective, but rather objective. Simply put, there is one truth and not several and Jesus never said do not judge anything, which is what Pilgrim is trying to pass off as truth.
When we refute error, we are in agreement with God. This has nothing to do with personalities or judging a person's heart. It is false to claim we are never to judge. Further, is we never judge or point out sin, then it means there is no way to deal with sin and sin is ongoing in the life of a person or in a congregation.
So let's try to understand why Pilgrim ignores the context and insists we should judge nothing at all
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I think you might need to rethink whatever it is you are trying to say here. 
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if your great judgements aren’t in line with Jesus judgements it is you who needs to repent because his words aren’t going to go away or change even if we reject what he said
“He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.
For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.”
John 12:48-50
That’s not going to go away we can believe what Jesus preached and said is salvation or we can reject it and claim we have a better judgement I personally am going to stick with this judgement because going elsewhere is foolishness
“It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.”
John 6:45, 47 KJV
so when the lord and only mediator between God and man not Paul but Jesus
“For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;”
1 Timothy 2:5 KJV
there’s no way around Jesus gospel to be saved it’s why salvation is based upon believing it and the only condemnation in the word is rejecting it
“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
Mark 16:15-16 KJV
Paul was still A non believer when salvstion was sent to the nations of the Gentiles he’s no different than the other apostles witnesses of the truth of the gospel
“In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:”
2 Thessalonians 1:8 KJV
And Peter
“For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?”
1 Peter 4:17 KJV
and John
“Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God.
He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:”
2 John 1:9-10 KJV
and Paul again
“If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.”
1 Timothy 6:3-5 KJV
If we can’t be humble and learn from God himself we ought to try to learn from him before we instruct others about what they need to correct
We don’t get to reject Jesus teachings and correct people who believe them we should all go to the lord and hear what he’s teaching and learn to him me ourselves and listen to his words
One of the consistent principles in the gospel Jesus preached gospel John and Paul and Peter all preached and James preached os that judging other people when we need repentance ourselves os to condemn our own self d doesn’t even affect the other person Christ has thier correction covered
How can a Christian in good conscience contradict Gods teachings ? And claim some sort of authority of understanding wouldn’t people who knew scripture go
To then learn from Jesus ? And certainly would have to agree with thier savior
It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.”
John 6:45, 47 KJV
You should consider more of what Jesus said Paul is confusing people a lot
yeah quoting what you said that’s pretty evil lol
those scripture that annoy you so much the only reason I’m bothering to share them is because I want you to hear the gospel for yourself
This is your judge speaking not me but the one who does for you and promised salvstion
“Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.”
Matthew 7:1-5
after Jesus says this he gives them the right understanding
“Judge not, that ye be not judged.
For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.”
Matthew 7:1-2
this is Paul his servant and witness is his teaching here unbiblical too ?
“Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things.
But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth against them which commit such things.
And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God? Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?
But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;
Who will render to every man according to his deeds: To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:
But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,
Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: For there is no respect of persons with God.
In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.”
Romans 2:1-11, 16 KJV
Also unbiblical works doctrine ?
grave only saves us if we accept the truth of the gospel that teaches us what to repent of like judging people for thier sins when we’re far from perfect ourselves all we’re doing is heaping up jidgement for our own sins when we also have to stand before God not to account for others but to give an account for our deeds and our words both good and bad and it’s Jesus that’s our judge who said his words are his judgement believe and be saved
seems basic
those scripture that annoy you so much the only reason I’m bothering to share them is because I want you to hear the gospel for yourself
This is your judge speaking not me but the one who does for you and promised salvstion
“Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.”
Matthew 7:1-5
after Jesus says this he gives them the right understanding
“Judge not, that ye be not judged.
For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.”
Matthew 7:1-2
this is Paul his servant and witness is his teaching here unbiblical too ?
“Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things.
But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth against them which commit such things.
And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God? Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?
But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;
Who will render to every man according to his deeds: To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:
But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,
Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: For there is no respect of persons with God.
In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.”
Romans 2:1-11, 16 KJV
Also unbiblical works doctrine ?
grave only saves us if we accept the truth of the gospel that teaches us what to repent of like judging people for thier sins when we’re far from perfect ourselves all we’re doing is heaping up jidgement for our own sins when we also have to stand before God not to account for others but to give an account for our deeds and our words both good and bad and it’s Jesus that’s our judge who said his words are his judgement believe and be saved
seems basic
What he actually said ? I’m not acknowledging it lol wow this is getting pretty evasive
“But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.
Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful. Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven: Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall be given into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.”
Luke 6:35-38 KJV
I agree with what he actually said how about you 😅 I know James did
“For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.(?were all Sinners by the law even if we sinned once so )
So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty. For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.”
James 2:10, 12-13
I believe what he actually said you ?
“But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.
Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful. Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven: Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall be given into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.”
Luke 6:35-38 KJV
I agree with what he actually said how about you 😅 I know James did
“For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.(?were all Sinners by the law even if we sinned once so )
So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty. For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.”
James 2:10, 12-13
I believe what he actually said you ?