Did Jesus Die on The Cross for The Just/Elect/Saved Whose Names Are Written in The Book of Life OR

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brightfame52

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Niki7 said:
Calvinism is a plague on the gospel and the devil's plan to confuse both saved and unsaved

For Christ also suffered for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God. He was put to death in the body but made alive in the Spirit, I Peter 3:18

See that? ONLY Christ is righteous as He was when He died for us...when He took our place as the object of the wrath of God...and He did so as the final sacrifice for ALL time. The unrighteous are all without Christ but who become the righteousness of God in Christ when a person accepts Christ and acknowledges that He alone can save

16 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.
John 3:16

21 For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God. II Corinthians 5:21
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Christ died only for the elect, He loved only the elect friend and btw 1 Pet 3:18 applies only to the elect See Chapter 1 vs 1-2
 
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MerSee said:
for the Unjust/Nonelect/Unsaved whose names are not written in The Book of Life?

Revelation 21:27
There shall not enter into it any thing defiled, or that worketh abomination or maketh a lie, but they that are written in the book of life of the Lamb
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Here's your answer friend.

I John

2:2And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
 
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brightfame52

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Everlasting-Grace said:
Your God is not a Godof love?
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Yes towards the elect, Like Jacobs, but not towards the esaus of the world, sorry Rom 9:13

13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

He reigns over the house of jacobs friend Lk 1:32-33


32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.
 
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Everlasting-Grace

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brightfame52 said:
Yes towards the elect, Like Jacobs, but not towards the esaus of the world, sorry Rom 9:13

13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

He reigns over the house of jacobs friend Lk 1:32-33


32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.
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No No No

If he does not love everyone, He is not a loving God.

No one meets Gods standard, So He must love them all or non of them, And he would not be a just God either.
 
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God will have mercy on His people, but would never ask His only son to suffer and bleed for those that He does not love!
 
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BillyBob said:
God will have mercy on His people, but would never ask His only son to suffer and bleed for those that He does not love!
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your right

Which is why Jesus did what he said he did. He died for the whole world. So that whoever believes will be born again and whoever does nto believe will remain condemned, because they did not believe.
 
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No, you are not correct!
Romans 9:15

For he says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.”
 
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Many people know that hell is a thirsty place.Jesus said that you should help your enemy when he dies of thirst.
I don't think that this sentence refers to people who are dying of thirst in the real world.
 
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MerSee said:
for the Unjust/Nonelect/Unsaved whose names are not written in The Book of Life?
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All are written in the Book of Life until they choose to reject the Gospel and Christ. The Bible speaks of names being "blotted out" of the Book of Life. Those are the ones who would not repent. Christ died for the sins of THE WHOLE WORLD.
 
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MerSee said:
You do understand.; I posted the scripture verse for you.
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Ummm...I'm getting older but I usually still understand what I don't understand. Just to be sure, I asked myself if I understood what you meant. Between me, myself, and I, we still don't understand what you meant.
 
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Nehemiah6 said:
All are written in the Book of Life until they choose to reject the Gospel and Christ. The Bible speaks of names being "blotted out" of the Book of Life. Those are the ones who would not repent. Christ died for the sins of THE WHOLE WORLD.
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There is no scripture in the Holy Bible which shows Christ shed His blood for the nonelect.
 
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Cameron143 said:
Ummm...I'm getting older but I usually still understand what I don't understand. Just to be sure, I asked myself if I understood what you meant. Between me, myself, and I, we still don't understand what you meant.
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Roman 4:4
Now to him that worketh, the reward is not reckoned according to grace, but according to debt.
 
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BillyBob said:
No, you are not correct!
Romans 9:15

For he says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.”
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First, one should understand why such a statement ^ would be written in Romans 9 (the Jewish/Israel mindset was "Only us, and no one else!"--Paul is making a point here in this overall context [chpts 9-11]--Read this quote now with that "mindset" [of theirs] in view, and it will help clarify why this is being said... and why the closing of that entire section says what it says [relatedly... re: "mercy"].)


Secondly, consider a couple of quotes I put in an old post, to better ascertain said "context" (which article touches on that issue ^ also):

Post #15 - https://christianchat.com/threads/e...d-once-saved-always-saved.194033/post-4340389
 
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