Did Jesus died on Good Friday and rise Sunday, first day of the week?

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And in John 19:14, that "preparation of the passover" doesn't mean preparation for the next day of Passover, it was referring to the preparation for the ritual of passover sacrifice of the selected lamb without blemish, which typically took place at evening, known as "evening sacrifice".
Spot on.

The Passover was a twilight event on the 14th of Nissan. According to Leviticus 23, that is.

The next day (15th) is the first day of U.B which must have occurred on the Sabbath day, hence that Sabbath was a high Sabbath.
 

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There is no high Sabbath in RCC, they mistake good Friday for the Preparation day and the day of crucifixion.
The RCC did not exist for centuries. There was a church in Rome in the first century.
A church in Greece (Corinthians) and many other churches.

If you want to know exactly what tradition the early church practiced, then consult the Orthodox church. They broke away from any association with the politically evolving Roman church. Their historical roots go back to the first century.

The Orthodox church was never under the authority of a pope.
 

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The point I made was Jesus hadn't ascended yet, that's why he told Mary not to touch him. I post the verse to prove that didn't I. Jesus didn't rise on Sunday according to scriptures the prophet Daniel.
You should, in fact say, that according to your interpretation of Daniel. I do not read Daniel the way you do.
 
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The point I made was Jesus hadn't ascended yet, that's why he told Mary not to touch him. I post the verse to prove that didn't I. Jesus didn't rise on Sunday according to scriptures the prophet Daniel.
“Middle of the week” means three and a half years, not three and a half day. Angel Gabriel was telling Daniel about weeks of years, not days. As I said over and over again, unless Jesus entered Jerusalem on the previous Saturday instead of Palm Sunday, Passover on Nissan 14 must be five days later.
 

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“Middle of the week” means three and a half years, not three and a half day. Angel Gabriel was telling Daniel about weeks of years, not days. As I said over and over again, unless Jesus entered Jerusalem on the previous Saturday instead of Palm Sunday, Passover on Nissan 14 must be five days later.
They celebrate Palm Sunday upstairs.

Revelation 7:9
After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could count, from every nation and all the tribes, peoples, and languages, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, and palm branches were in their hands.

Matthew 21:9
The crowds that went ahead of him and those that followed shouted, "Hosanna to the Son of David! Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord! Hosanna in the highest heaven!"

Zechariah 9:9
Rejoice greatly, Daughter Zion! Shout, Daughter Jerusalem! See, your king comes to you, righteous and victorious, lowly and riding on a donkey, on a colt, the foal of a donkey.
 

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“Middle of the week” means three and a half years, not three and a half day. Angel Gabriel was telling Daniel about weeks of years, not days. As I said over and over again, unless Jesus entered Jerusalem on the previous Saturday instead of Palm Sunday, Passover on Nissan 14 must be five days later.

No it's not, because Jesus was always being inquired of by the Jews for a sign. He gave them one in reference to His death and resurrection. He told them that just like Jonas, He would be in the earth 3 days and 3 nights. In the Gospel of John Jesus again gave the Jews a sign by telling them if this temple was destroyed He would raise it up in 3 days. Jesus was referring to His body.

(Matthew 12:38) Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee. 39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: 40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Daniel the prophet wrote of this same time concerning the Messiah, so believe what you will, your salvation is at hand! These three days and three nights all work to together as it's written even in the scriptures.
 
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No it's not, because Jesus was always being inquired of by the Jews for a sign. He gave them one in reference to His death and resurrection. He told them that just like Jonas, He would be in the earth 3 days and 3 nights. In the Gospel of John Jesus again gave the Jews a sign by telling them if this temple was destroyed He would raise it up in 3 days. Jesus was referring to His body.

(Matthew 12:38) Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee. 39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: 40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Daniel the prophet wrote of this same time concerning the Messiah, so believe what you will, your salvation is at hand! These three days and three nights all work to together as it's written even in the scriptures.
So 70 weeks were just 490 days? To rebuild Jerusalem? Yes, Daniel was writing about Messiah, but there were 69 weeks before that, those were all weeks of years, every theologian and most christians understand that except you.
 

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So 70 weeks were just 490 days? To rebuild Jerusalem? Yes, Daniel was writing about Messiah, but there were 69 weeks before that, those were all weeks of years, every theologian and most christians understand that except you.

I wrote and broke down all that already, that's not where the problem is with your understanding. I understand that it took 69 weeks to bring us to the Messiah, there is only one week left. One week left (1x7 = 7 years). These years have to be cut in half. Why? Again because the prophets Daniel said so. Daniel 9: (Verse 26). "And after threescore and two weeks shall the Messiah be cut off, but for himself: I shouldn't have to prove Jesus taught for 3 1/2 yrs. Now within those years Daniel says
(Verse 27) "And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease. This parts of the prophecy is lateral just like the 3 1/2 yrs Jesus taught was lateral days that made up those years that be cut off. Jesus was cut off in the mist of the week and died on the Passover, because he is the Passover. Just like the sacrifice and the oblation had to cease in that same time period. Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost. And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent; (Matthew 27: 50, 51). Once the veil was rent that end animal sacrificial laws, no sacrificing animals. The last 3 1/2 yrs is at Jesus second coming, and he will finish his ministry with his people.
 
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This parts of the prophecy is lateral just like the 3 1/2 yrs Jesus taught was lateral days that made up those years that be cut off.
You made this up to justify your wednesday theory. By no means was the definition of week suddenly changed from week of years into week of days in the last verse. How about this question - on which day did Jesus enter into Jerusalem? If that's sunday, then passover must be on thursday.
 

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My point of reference is Daniel 9:25-26 where it's said:

"So you are to know and discern that from the issuing of a decree to restore
and rebuild Jerusalem until Messiah the Prince there will be seven weeks and
sixty-two weeks. After the sixty-two weeks Messiah will be cut off."

Now; a technicality to be aware of is that those sixty-nine weeks are not
heptads of days, rather, of years; which when added up come to 483.

A further technicality to be aware of is that those 483 years aren't normal
years, rather, they're prophetic years, which are only 360 days apiece
compared to normal years which are roughly 364¼ days apiece.

So, in normal years, the sixty-nine weeks add up to only 477.

Turning to Neh 1:1-2:18, we find our hero depressed and upset because his
home town, the very city where his relatives are buried, was in ruins; its
wall broken down, and its gates ashes. So, with a goodly amount of
butterflies in his stomach, Nehemiah petitioned his boss for a leave of
absence to go and rebuild Jerusalem.

Artaxerxes gave him permission, supported by official memorandums, in the
month of Nisan, in the twentieth year of his reign. So it is in Neh 2 that we
find the only actual Bible record of a royal permit to rebuild the city of
Jerusalem. This, then, is my choice for the beginning of Daniel's prediction.

Fortunately, the date of Artaxerxes reign can be easily and definitely
ascertained-- not from the elaborate investigative treatises of biblical
commentators and prophetic writers; but from ordinary history books.
Artaxerxes-- a.k.a. Artaxerxes 1 --reigned from 465-425 BCE.

According to Nehemiah, the Persian edict, which gave him permission to
rebuild Jerusalem, was issued during the Jewish month of Nisan in the
twentieth year of Artaxerxes. Unfortunately the exact day is not given. It is
very possible the decree was dated the 1st of Nisan; but that's not really
important as long as we come close enough for practical consideration. The
sixty-nine weeks then, within reason, and close enough for our purposes,
will therefore be calculated from the 1st of Nisan 445 BCE.

Counting 477 normal years forward from 445 BC drops us off at 32 CE
which, if correct, becomes the year that Daniel predicted Messiah would be
cut off. That figure appears to be in the ball park; and here's why:

According to Luke 3:1-3, Tiberius was the emperor in Rome when John the
Baptist began his public ministry.

Tiberius' reign spanned 14 CE to 37 CE and according to Luke, John's
ministry began sometime in 29 CE. Precisely on what day Jesus was
baptized by John we don't know for sure, but we do know that he was about
thirty years old at the time. (Luke 3:21-23)

Jesus' own ministry ran about three years before he was cut off. So if we
add 3 to 29 we get 32 CE.

* If perchance someone out there feels like computing Messiah's first visit on their own,
just be sure to begin your dating with the commission to rebuild the city of Jerusalem
rather than the Temple because those two tasks weren't taken up simultaneously.
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You made this up to justify your wednesday theory. By no means was the definition of week suddenly changed from week of years into week of days in the last verse. How about this question - on which day did Jesus enter into Jerusalem? If that's sunday, then passover must be on thursday.

Peace in the mighty name of Jesus