Did Jesus ever tell us that we no longer need to keep the law of Moses?
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would it not make more sense to meditate on the Sermon on the mount, since that is the ultimate goal of the Christian?
anyone reading this, please be aware- as well as it is presented, as good as it sounds, as well as it is intended , one does NOT< NOT < Not have to keep the Law of Moses and the jewish Sabbath to be a Christ follower.
believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved.
anyone reading this, please be aware- as well as it is presented, as good as it sounds, as well as it is intended , one does NOT< NOT < Not have to keep the Law of Moses and the jewish Sabbath to be a Christ follower.
believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved.
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I have no clue what you're talking about. It doesn't seem that you are Trinitarian. Therefore, you would be challenged to understand me.
YHVH is one. The Father is YHVH. The Son is YHVH. The Holy Spirit is YHVH.
The distinct Personhood of each is plainly taught in Scripture.
As I mentioned, Stephen asked the Lord Jesus to receive his spirit, in a similar way that Jesus asked the Father to receive his spirit.
Additionally, it was Jesus who baptized the believers with the Spirit on Pentecost.
I personally don't pray to the Holy Spirit, because the Holy Spirit serves as an intercessor between the believer and God. However, I don't think it's inappropriate to pray to the Father, Son, or Holy Spirit. In all cases, you are praying to God.
By the way, if Arianism is the subject of your objection, it is obvious Jesus allowed worship of himself, and if he were a mere man, he would not have allowed that. He is God. There is only one God (YHVH). Therefore he is YHVH.
YHVH is one. The Father is YHVH. The Son is YHVH. The Holy Spirit is YHVH.
The distinct Personhood of each is plainly taught in Scripture.
As I mentioned, Stephen asked the Lord Jesus to receive his spirit, in a similar way that Jesus asked the Father to receive his spirit.
Additionally, it was Jesus who baptized the believers with the Spirit on Pentecost.
I personally don't pray to the Holy Spirit, because the Holy Spirit serves as an intercessor between the believer and God. However, I don't think it's inappropriate to pray to the Father, Son, or Holy Spirit. In all cases, you are praying to God.
By the way, if Arianism is the subject of your objection, it is obvious Jesus allowed worship of himself, and if he were a mere man, he would not have allowed that. He is God. There is only one God (YHVH). Therefore he is YHVH.
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Yes, it would make more sense to meditate on the positive message of living the Christian life that begins with a change of heart in our attitude towards others. After all this is a CHRISTIAN forum.
I hate the negativity of Old Testament Law with all it's 'Do Nots.'' Be good, kind and loving is how it should be.
I hate the negativity of Old Testament Law with all it's 'Do Nots.'' Be good, kind and loving is how it should be.
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I have nothing against the Law of Moses, but it was given to Israel mainly because none of them had known Yahweh , and had lived in big-time pagan Egypt, so God had to completely separate them from paganism , and at the same time try to get them to not end up as idol worshipers.
but, the world , gentiles , etc.. were and are not under Torah.
we come to Zion, not Sinai.
but, the world , gentiles , etc.. were and are not under Torah.
we come to Zion, not Sinai.
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Then? Who is Elohim? 
And who are these?
Job 38
Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,
2 Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?
6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
1 Corinthians 2
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
And who are these?
Job 38
Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,
2 Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?
6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
1 Corinthians 2
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
Then? Who is Elohim?
And who are these?
Job 38
Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,
2 Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?
6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
1 Corinthians 2
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
And who are these?
Job 38
Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,
2 Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?
6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
1 Corinthians 2
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
YHVH is most often used to talk about God amongst his covenant-people. Elohim refers to him as a title, and tends to be used when referring to him as the God of all mankind.
"Sons of God" likely refers to the angels. The word "elohim" can refer to either God, man, or spirits (including angels) depending on the context.
Please, Please any one reading this, KNOW FOR A FACT THAT "THE LAW OF MOSES" and/or the 1st Covenant, IS NO LONGER IS AVAILABLE, as it has been replaced.
One thing JESUS, OUR LORD AND SAVIOUR DIED FOR was ITS REPLACEMENT. YOU would think that would be enough to let it go, but it doesn't seem to be.
You would think because it was written "as a shadow of what was to come" and Jesus came, it would no longer be brought up as something anyone could even try to put you under.
You would think because it had an expiration date of John the Baptist, it would no longer be brought up.
You would think because there is a better one put in place, one of forgiveness and life it would no longer be brought up.
You need to go and check out "WHO" keeps bringing up this old law of death and never mentioning the NEW COVENANT that replaced it and "for what purpose" that might be.
Read the post and ask yourself "why is this person warning against something that no longer exists, that wasn't mentioned, is not being promoted"
WHY IS IT THOSE WHO STATE THE LAW OF MOSES HAS ENDED, YET THE NEW COVENANT LAWS MUST BE FOLLOWED ARE CONSTANTLY ACCUSED OF TRYING TO "PUT OTHERS "UNDER" an old law of death that has been replaced,
OR WHY THOSE WHO SAY THE LAW HAS BEEN DONE AWAY WITH CONSTANTLY MAKE THE CLAIM THAT those who follow the law are" trying to put everyone UNDER the law of Moses" instead of saying "they follow the New Covenant" laws"?????
WHAT IS THEIR PURPOSE?
One thing JESUS, OUR LORD AND SAVIOUR DIED FOR was ITS REPLACEMENT. YOU would think that would be enough to let it go, but it doesn't seem to be.
You would think because it was written "as a shadow of what was to come" and Jesus came, it would no longer be brought up as something anyone could even try to put you under.
You would think because it had an expiration date of John the Baptist, it would no longer be brought up.
You would think because there is a better one put in place, one of forgiveness and life it would no longer be brought up.
You need to go and check out "WHO" keeps bringing up this old law of death and never mentioning the NEW COVENANT that replaced it and "for what purpose" that might be.
Read the post and ask yourself "why is this person warning against something that no longer exists, that wasn't mentioned, is not being promoted"
WHY IS IT THOSE WHO STATE THE LAW OF MOSES HAS ENDED, YET THE NEW COVENANT LAWS MUST BE FOLLOWED ARE CONSTANTLY ACCUSED OF TRYING TO "PUT OTHERS "UNDER" an old law of death that has been replaced,
OR WHY THOSE WHO SAY THE LAW HAS BEEN DONE AWAY WITH CONSTANTLY MAKE THE CLAIM THAT those who follow the law are" trying to put everyone UNDER the law of Moses" instead of saying "they follow the New Covenant" laws"?????
WHAT IS THEIR PURPOSE?
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Then? Who is Elohim?
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Then? Who is Elohim?
And who are these?
Job 38
Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,
2 Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?
6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
1 Corinthians 2
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
And who are these?
Job 38
Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,
2 Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?
6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
1 Corinthians 2
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
Notice I said anti-Trinitarian..I am not talking about baby Christians who don't understand the Trinity yet.
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Those who are "of the flesh?" Cannot understand! This is why they think, we are referring to flesh actions!
And, why they "mock and scoff" so!
1 Peter 2
2 As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, THAT YE MAY GROW thereby:
4 To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but CHOSEN of God, and precious,
5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
Being yet in their "fleshly mindset", Jesus FULFILLED "EVERY SPIRITUAL SACRIFICE" FOR them!
All they NEED do? "LOVE Jesus!" "LOVE Jesus!" "LOVE Jesus!"
And, why they "mock and scoff" so!
1 Peter 2
2 As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, THAT YE MAY GROW thereby:
4 To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but CHOSEN of God, and precious,
5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
Being yet in their "fleshly mindset", Jesus FULFILLED "EVERY SPIRITUAL SACRIFICE" FOR them!
All they NEED do? "LOVE Jesus!" "LOVE Jesus!" "LOVE Jesus!"
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