Did we get a physical description of God in Revelations?

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Red is the most intense and dominant among all the colours. In that verse, The ALMIGHTY GOD, was portrayed not only strong and dominant but the kind of stone that is so valuable and so precious. Satan, although represented in red colour, he is not portrayed as valuable and precious although he possesses some power over those who are not with The LORD CHRIST JESUS. That's my understanding of that verse. Hope it helps.
 
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No, it says the center of the throne. Are you denying the divinity of Jesus?
Im not denying that Christ is divine. I do believe that there is overwhelming evidence to support that the Father and the Son are separate persons. The Bible never states that there is only one divine person, only that we are to have one Deity we serve, Yahweh. Christ says to pray to the Father, in His Name. Christ never told us to pray to Him directly. He is at the right hand of the Father.
 

Johnny_B

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The Throne represents the Heart.

It is Red because of Blood.

The Twenty Four Elders surrounding the Heart are the Ribs.

We have 24 of them...

So are we getting a physical description of God?

You bet!

:cool:
We have 23, God took one to make Eve.
 

Magenta

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Im not denying that Christ is divine. I do believe that there is overwhelming evidence to support that the Father and the Son are separate persons. The Bible never states that there is only one divine person, only that we are to have one Deity we serve, Yahweh. Christ says to pray to the Father, in His Name. Christ never told us to pray to Him directly. He is at the right hand of the Father.
Since Jesus is God, which Scripture clearly identifies Him as being, then you should have absolutely NO problem having Christ on the throne.... but you seem to.
 

Johnny_B

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Ahem!!!



2 Corinthians 6:16
"And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people"




I've heard some say that verse 37 of Daniel 11 is referring to him being Jewish and gay, what do you think?
 
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Since Jesus is God, which Scripture clearly identifies Him as being, then you should have absolutely NO problem having Christ on the throne.... but you seem to.
I am human and you are human but we are not the same person. The word Elohim means either gods or God of gods. In either translation the implication is that there is more than one god. Some people try to make scripture say something it doesn't (you are probably going to accuse me of this), to make it fit their view. In Genesis is states that the sons of elohim came and mated with the daughters of men. Some make a million excuses about why this is impossible. If we are made in the image of elohim, that could mean that we are humanoid and they are humanoid. Yahweh is the God of gods (divine or celestial beings), the ultimate Royalty. Christ is God being divine Royalty but Son of the Most High God.

This is what the Bible actually spells out, before we allow our lack of knowlegde imagine a more digestable interpretation. Looking at history through a different lens we have to make a decision. (1)Either man was significantly more advanced and built fantastic structures, with precision tools that sliced through granite like butter yet still bowed down to statues of superstition. (2) The earth was a little more like Greek Mythology(reality), where supreme beings had relations with many women and produced a population of demigods, a view also shared in scripture. The gods or their offspring built the structures, and less advanced man bowed down to them and made statues in their image, to worship them. (3) We need to only concern ourselves with what is directly revealed to us through the Bible, turn a blind eye to everything else and explain away things that do not make sense as the mysteries of God that mere mortals can never comprehend.
 
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In Rev 4:3 it states that the one on the throne looks like a jasper stone or a sardius. These are both deep red in colour. Is John stating that Yahweh is....red? Satan is usually depicted as red. Is it possible that Satan mocks the Almighty by injecting the belief that the Devil is red? Im just curious about your thoughts. I understand this flies in the face of accepted beliefs but if anyone else can explain what this means, I'm interested to hear it. Thanks.
I have always thought of God as being a spiritual being, though I suppose he could have form.
 
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I have always thought of God as being a spiritual being, though I suppose he could have form.
What I understand from scripture and prayer is that The Almighty has form but His essence radiates like spirit. This is the Spirit of God. It's sort of like how heat radiates from a fire, or better still how a wifi signal extends from a wireless router. Information can be uploaded and downloaded through a "vacuum". The signal is not the router but an extension of it. I believe that this is how He communicates with us. Our emotions allow us to "tune into" His frequency.
 
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What I understand from scripture and prayer is that The Almighty has form but His essence radiates like spirit. This is the Spirit of God. It's sort of like how heat radiates from a fire, or better still how a wifi signal extends from a wireless router. Information can be uploaded and downloaded through a "vacuum". The signal is not the router but an extension of it. I believe that this is how He communicates with us. Our emotions allow us to "tune into" His frequency.
We were created "in the image of God" (Gen 1:27), whatever that means.
 

MadebyHim

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Prove-all shared Ezekiel's vision of God, Daniels is kinda the same.

[SUP]5 [/SUP]Then I lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and behold a certain man clothed in linen, whose loins were girded with fine gold of Uphaz:
[SUP]6 [/SUP]His body also was like the beryl, and his face as the appearance of lightning, and his eyes as lamps of fire, and his arms and his feet like in colour to polished brass, and the voice of his words like the voice of a multitude.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]And I Daniel alone saw the vision: for the men that were with me saw not the vision; but a great quaking fell upon them, so that they fled to hide themselves. Daniel 10:5-7


[SUP]17 [/SUP]For how can the servant of this my lord talk with this my lord? for as for me, straightway there remained no strength in me, neither is there breath left in me.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]Then there came again and touched me one like the appearance of a man, and he strengthened me,
[SUP]19 [/SUP]And said, O man greatly beloved, fear not: peace be unto thee, be strong, yea, be strong. And when he had spoken unto me, I was strengthened, and said, Let my lord speak; for thou hast strengthened me. Daniel 10:17-19
 
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We were created in the image of elohim. This means either gods or God of gods. I think it may mean we were created humanoid. This might shed light on Gen 6 where it states that the sons of elohim (gods) saw that the daughters of men were beautiful and took them for wives.
 

Magenta

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I am human and you are human but we are not the same person. The word Elohim means either gods or God of gods. In either translation the implication is that there is more than one god. Some people try to make scripture say something it doesn't (you are probably going to accuse me of this), to make it fit their view. In Genesis is states that the sons of elohim came and mated with the daughters of men. Some make a million excuses about why this is impossible. If we are made in the image of elohim, that could mean that we are humanoid and they are humanoid. Yahweh is the God of gods (divine or celestial beings), the ultimate Royalty. Christ is God being divine Royalty but Son of the Most High God.

This is what the Bible actually spells out, before we allow our lack of knowlegde imagine a more digestable interpretation. Looking at history through a different lens we have to make a decision. (1)Either man was significantly more advanced and built fantastic structures, with precision tools that sliced through granite like butter yet still bowed down to statues of superstition. (2) The earth was a little more like Greek Mythology(reality), where supreme beings had relations with many women and produced a population of demigods, a view also shared in scripture. The gods or their offspring built the structures, and less advanced man bowed down to them and made statues in their image, to worship them. (3) We need to only concern ourselves with what is directly revealed to us through the Bible, turn a blind eye to everything else and explain away things that do not make sense as the mysteries of God that mere mortals can never comprehend.
You continue to have a problem with Jesus on the throne and refuse to admit it, instead going off on tangents and interjecting off the wall interpretations of irrelevant (to the conversation) parts of the text while talking about people trying to make Scripture say something it does not, which is quite ironic seeing as that is what you are doing with your polytheistic take on things :)
 
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We have 23, God took one to make Eve.
The Rib at the Anatomic Scale represents the Nucleotide at the DNA Scale.

I call these revelations 'Dispensation of Scales'.

As Mankind is able to observe smaller and smaller things, God has a Revelation waiting for us each time.

The same is true for the opposite direction.

In 1953 Mankind was able to see "Two Sticks Joined as One" for the first time....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA

We call these Two Sticks DNA...

 
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I've heard some say that verse 37 of Daniel 11 is referring to him being Jewish and gay, what do you think?
Yeah, I've heard of that interpretation before...

Daniel 11:37
"Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all"


It's a bit of a stretch to me.

Wasn't the desire of women to give birth to the Messiah?

But let's not throw out the theory entirely because the main reason all of this LGBT garbage is being forced on our Children is to get them ready for the Antichrist most likely being a type of 'Androgyny'.

This thing...



^^^
That is the goal of the Elites.
 
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[SUP]6 [/SUP]His body also was like the beryl, and his face as the appearance of lightning, and his eyes as lamps of fire...
OK, now...

Take the words...

BERYL
LIGHTNING
EYES
FIRE


...and find the one Gemstone that matches all four of them on this chart...



What are those 'Eyes' going around and around as if they were orbiting?

 
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...how a wifi signal extends from a wireless router. Information can be uploaded and downloaded through a "vacuum". The signal is not the router but an extension of it. I believe that this is how He communicates with us. Our emotions allow us to "tune into" His frequency.
Cat6 Line to God made of Silver for the win...

Ecclesiastes 12:6
"Or ever the silver cord be loosed, or the golden bowl be broken, or the pitcher be broken at the fountain, or the wheel broken at the cistern"