Difference between God and Jesus

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phil36

phil36

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I'm amazed these views are even tolerated on a 'Christian' site!
 
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silas42

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phil36 said:
I'm amazed these views are even tolerated on a 'Christian' site!
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What views are you referring to
A belief that if you believe Christ is the son of God that is salvational belief concerning who he is?
Are you serious?:
 
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Bryancampbell

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silas42 said:
What views are you referring to
A belief that if you believe Christ is the son of God that is salvational belief as to who he is?
Are you serious?:
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No we are saying for you to believe in the gospel you must not exclude His divinity.
 
phil36

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silas42 said:
What views are you referring to
A belief that if you believe Christ is the son of God that is salvational belief concerning who he is?
Are you serious?:
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Now now, stop deceiving silas..its not nice..

But yes your views should never be tolerated by any Christian, nor a 'Christian' organisation. Because your not the poor uneducated person you make out to be.. You proclaim to be Christian and yet deny who God is.. you are not ignorant of the facts so you only deserve contempt.
 
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Bryancampbell said:
No we are saying for you to believe in the gospel you must not exclude His divinity.
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Do you accept Arius was saved/a Christian?
He believed in the divinity of Christ, I read that yesterday.

There is a great tragedy here, there truly is. The vast majority of Christendom agree with me for salvational belief, even the ministers accept it, but a few of you on here are lost
 
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silas42

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phil36 said:
Now now, stop deceiving silas..its not nice..

But yes your views should never be tolerated by any Christian, nor a 'Christian' organisation. Because your not the poor uneducated person you make out to be.. You proclaim to be Christian and yet deny who God is.. you are not ignorant of the facts so you only deserve contempt.
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So I know Christ is the holy Son of God, but because he himself stated the Father is the one true God, and therefore I believe that, I should be thrown off this website, that's what you believe, well I hope you have fully explained that in your complaints about me
 
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i have yes and i asked nicely threads ago for a civilized discussion live in chat.

No joy by the way. youve allready attacked me in another thread. i am not gong down the road of attack mode with you.
and thanks for the concern sila42 . two attacks from you and mr cambel in two mins from a piece thread and phil has liked them both, on a thread that is titled the difference between Jesus and god.
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So, what you meant to say was:

dear heavenly [Father] please [forgive me as] i forgive my brothers for there trespasses against me today ?
 
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silas42 said:
Do you accept Arius was saved/a Christian?
He believed in the divinity of Christ, I read that yesterday.

There is a great tragedy here, there truly is. The vast majority of Christendom agree with me for salvational belief, even the ministers accept it, but a few of you on here are lost
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The ministers you continue to mention seem like the ones who deceived you. If being saved means having faith in Jesus without believing Jesus as the Lord God in flesh, which is the title "Son of God" claims and affirms, then who do you really serve?
 
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Bryancampbell said:
The ministers you continue to mention seem like the ones who deceived you. If being saved means having faith in Jesus without believing Jesus as the Lord God in flesh, which is the title "Son of God" claims and affirms, then who do you really serve?
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If you were not all so blind you would see. The ministers do not preach your demands from the pulpit, they don't in the UK anyway. And if Phil was an honest person, he'd admit it, they demand what I believe
 
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If you were not all so blind you would see. The ministers do not preach your demands from the pulpit, they don't in the UK anyway. And if Phil was an honest person, he'd admit it, they demand what I believe
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Hi silas,

I am saddened by what you believe for you are denying God..blasphemy really. however the fact that you try and hide it makes the issue even worse.. you are a deceiver.. and why its tolerated on any Christian forum, belies belief.
 
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silas42 said:
If you were not all so blind you would see. The ministers do not preach your demands from the pulpit, they don't in the UK anyway. And if Phil was an honest person, he'd admit it, they demand what I believe
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Ah so are we talking about doctrine from where you're at specifically, which you claim is true and pure? Hmmmm, interesting...
 
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silas42

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phil36 said:
Hi silas,

I am saddened by what you believe for you are denying God..blasphemy really. however the fact that you try and hide it makes the issue even worse.. you are a deceiver.. and why its tolerated on any Christian forum, belies belief.
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So because I believe Christ is the only begotten Son of God, but I also believe Christ's words when he walked this earth that the Father is the one true God I am a deceiver and my belief should not be tolerated on a Christian website, I wonder who is the deceiver here
 
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silas42 said:
So because I believe Christ is the only begotten Son of God, but I also believe Christ's words when he walked this earth that the Father is the one true God I am a deceiver and my belief should not be tolerated on a Christian website, I wonder who is the deceiver here
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The best lies are based on truth silas... your not giving the whole picture..are you now??
 
phil36

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the question is,

Who or what is Jesus christ son of god? your evading?
 
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GreenNnice

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phil36 said:
The best lies are based on truth silas... your not giving the whole picture..are you now??
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It's tolerated, philly, bro, so that God can be glorified. That, like someone dying in Scripture, the person is not raised from the dead so that they can have a new life doing nothing, it's for the glory of God, they are going to go off and the Spirit is going to be in them like nobody's business. That's what Jesus said, that Mary and Martha's brother was not raised for any other reason than so the God would get the glory. Just like the blind person, he is blind because he's to bring glory to God in that way. :)
 
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silas42 said:
If you were not all so blind you would see. The ministers do not preach your demands from the pulpit, they don't in the UK anyway. And if Phil was an honest person, he'd admit it, they demand what I believe
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I agree with you sila42 i do. believe you me after all the attacks you have had here i think you would of been banned by now.
people are not soft. Gods people know what bad behavior is. And there is some realy nice mods here. who will understand why your upset. dont worry about it.

First thing is like you said not to let the hatred harm you because it can. second thing is not to carry on arguing with people weak in spirit. and third thing is welcome to christian chat
 
phil36

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Quickfire said:
I agree with you sila42 i do. believe you me after all the attacks you have had here i think you would of been banned by now.
people are not soft. Gods people know what bad behavior is. And there is some realy nice mods here. who will understand why your upset. dont worry about it.

First thing is like you said not to let the hatred harm you because it can. second thing is not to carry on arguing with people weak in spirit. and third thing is welcome to christian chat
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A minute ago you were trying to convince us at how Holy you are...didn't last.
 
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GreenNnice

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The wise men came to worship The King? That would be King Jesus.
So, some are to worship Jesus, then, and some are to worship God?

What is the distinction?

And, my biggest question is, how does one even do that? Sounds complicated. You're making yourself worship to different Gods who are the same God. Yikes, I got shivers just saying that.

edit: worship two Gods who are different in stature, one's greater than the other. Yikes ! shiver me timbres times two. Glad I'm not resonating that out loud, cuz I'm not saying a word and still shivering
 
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silas42

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phil36 said:
the question is,

Who or what is Jesus christ son of god? your evading?
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Nope

Who resides in the Body of Christ, you are evading?

I can give you the answer Peter Gave, hopefully that will satisfy you as it did Jesus, he asked for no further explanation

“But what about you?” he asked. “Who do you say I am?”[SUP]16 [/SUP]Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.”
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven

I agree totally with that, and Christ told Peter flesh and blood had not revealed it to Peter but his Father in Heaven

If that was enough for Christ, why is it not enough for you?
 
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