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yes he could talk and think, was required to tend to the garden.
but did he really know Gods ways, knowledge of sin came from the evil tree,
what did the other tree mean, if not giving the h.s. and learning Gods way of love?
he did not know evil, if he knew love also, i think he would have obeyed God
but did he really know Gods ways, knowledge of sin came from the evil tree,
what did the other tree mean, if not giving the h.s. and learning Gods way of love?
he did not know evil, if he knew love also, i think he would have obeyed God
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I didnt say it is bad, but human beings are in the process of being in the image of God. No one is born in the image of God.
It wasnt YET GOOD...it is not complete.We are not in the complete image of God.
When u see news, do u see good things in it????The human beings are not living like they were made in the image of God. Rape, Terrorism, Robbery,, Political dramas, wars...we dont do all these things if we are in the image of God. That is why God said
Let us be C-R-E-A-T-I-N-G man into our image. But IT WAS NOT SO and IT WAS NOT GOOD.
The Lord God is someone who knows or have the knowledge of good and evil. He is the one who live forever.He is spirit, righteous and sinless.
How can man who is a sinner, unrighteous, who is not in spirit but in flesh be in the image of God????For me there is only one who is the image of God, and that is Jesus Christ.
It wasnt YET GOOD...it is not complete.We are not in the complete image of God.
When u see news, do u see good things in it????The human beings are not living like they were made in the image of God. Rape, Terrorism, Robbery,, Political dramas, wars...we dont do all these things if we are in the image of God. That is why God said
Let us be C-R-E-A-T-I-N-G man into our image. But IT WAS NOT SO and IT WAS NOT GOOD.
The Lord God is someone who knows or have the knowledge of good and evil. He is the one who live forever.He is spirit, righteous and sinless.
How can man who is a sinner, unrighteous, who is not in spirit but in flesh be in the image of God????For me there is only one who is the image of God, and that is Jesus Christ.
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I too believe that God's word is truth......Thats why i back up what i say with verses from the scripture.
[SUP]3[/SUP] And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
[SUP]4[/SUP] And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
[SUP]6[/SUP] And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
[SUP]7[/SUP] And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
[SUP]9[/SUP] And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dryland appear: and it was so.
[SUP]10[/SUP] And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
[SUP]11[/SUP] And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
[SUP]12[/SUP] And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
[SUP]14[/SUP] And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
[SUP]15[/SUP] And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
[SUP]16[/SUP] And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
[SUP]17[/SUP] And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
[SUP]18[/SUP] And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
[SUP]20[/SUP] And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
[SUP]21[/SUP] And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
[SUP]22[/SUP] And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.
[SUP]24[/SUP] And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
[SUP]25[/SUP] And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
[SUP]27[/SUP] So God created (greek- CREATING...)man in his own image, in the image of God created (CREATES...)he him; male and female created (CREATES...)he them.
[SUP]28[/SUP] And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
Where is it??????????Why doesnt the scripture say "IT WAS SO" or "GOD SAW IT WAS GOOD", after the creation of human beings?????????????????????????
Then after mentioning all the creations the scripture says
[SUP]29[/SUP] And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which isthe fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
[SUP]30[/SUP] And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
[SUP]31[/SUP] And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
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And there are these verses in the scripture
Roman 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be (FUTURE TENSE) conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
1John 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him (SHALL BE, FUTURE TENSE); for we shall see him as he is.
Roman 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be (FUTURE TENSE) conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
1John 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him (SHALL BE, FUTURE TENSE); for we shall see him as he is.
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The Hebrew in Genesis 1:27 is in the indefinite, not the PAST tense. Here are the words directly from an Hebrew Interlinear:
"An He is creatING [present, progressive, future tense--not 'creatED' as in the King James], the human, in the Image of Him, in the Image of Elohim He creatES [not creatED] him, male and female He creatES them."
"An He is creatING [present, progressive, future tense--not 'creatED' as in the King James], the human, in the Image of Him, in the Image of Elohim He creatES [not creatED] him, male and female He creatES them."
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You need to find another church, You have been lied too.
I will never be like God as God. I will like him unable to sin, But never like him as God.
You will never have the essence of God or be a god.
Demons are fallen angels who fell with satan, They have no hope of being saved, They gave up that hope
If you do not come to Christ (if you have not yet) you will not either. But you will never be a God.
I will never be like God as God. I will like him unable to sin, But never like him as God.
You will never have the essence of God or be a god.
Demons are fallen angels who fell with satan, They have no hope of being saved, They gave up that hope
If you do not come to Christ (if you have not yet) you will not either. But you will never be a God.
Scripture does not teach that Adam was perfect, but it does teach that Jesus Christ is perfect, and is the last Adam.
And being made perfect, He became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey Him...
And ye know that He was manifested to take away our sins; and in Him is no sin.
For he hath made Him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in Him.
Who did no sin, neither was guile found in His mouth...
And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
And being made perfect, He became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey Him...
And ye know that He was manifested to take away our sins; and in Him is no sin.
For he hath made Him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in Him.
Who did no sin, neither was guile found in His mouth...
And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
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Well, if you say it wasn't good, what is the alternative?
Half right. One has been born in the image of God, that being Jesus. The rest of us are born in the image of Adam (Genesis 5:3). Christians are those whom Christ has restored, who can once again be the expression of God as we allow for His character to be expressed in our behavior.
We are complete in Christ. That does not mean that we perfectly express God's holy character. We are all like little green apples, complete but not yet mature.
We live in a fallen world. God said it was good, and on the seventh day God rested from creating...
Yes, there is only One who perfectly expresses the character of God, Jesus Christ, and He now indwells those who are His....and He continues to be the perfect expression of God's holy character in and through those who live by faith in Him.
Half right. One has been born in the image of God, that being Jesus. The rest of us are born in the image of Adam (Genesis 5:3). Christians are those whom Christ has restored, who can once again be the expression of God as we allow for His character to be expressed in our behavior.
We are complete in Christ. That does not mean that we perfectly express God's holy character. We are all like little green apples, complete but not yet mature.
We live in a fallen world. God said it was good, and on the seventh day God rested from creating...
Yes, there is only One who perfectly expresses the character of God, Jesus Christ, and He now indwells those who are His....and He continues to be the perfect expression of God's holy character in and through those who live by faith in Him.
S
Only one way!
John 17:20-21King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]20 [/SUP]Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
[SUP]21 [/SUP]That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
1 Corinthians 6:17King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]17 [/SUP]But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.
Romans 6:5King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]5 [/SUP]For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
Galatians 2:20King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]20 [/SUP]I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
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Everything that God made was "very good" for the PURPOSE He created them. These include poisonous mushrooms, poisonous snakes, etc. Human Beings aren't good YET.
God cannot sin. Can human beings be sinnless, after we allow for his character to be expressed in our behaviour????Because
1John 1:8-10
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
True.... That's what i said... we are all in the process of being in the image of God.
Amen.