Distinctives of Dispensationalism

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Well somewhere in this they don't think it through what it would actually mean if God said that the ENTIRE globe lost 1/3 of it's sunlight the entire planet would within a month turn in into one giant ice cube. That in and of itself would destroy almost all of the plant life on the planet and not 1/3. There would no tropics at all.
Yep it would. but not overnight, It would take awhile.

And your right. All LIFE on the planet would be at risk. Thanks for showing what Jesus meant when he said, if he did not "cut it short" No life would be saved.. Now just open your heart. And think how what you said goes right along with What Jesus said, And the reason he said he would cut it short for the sake of the elect.
 
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Did the Jews or any other ethnic group lose their identity with God, ancient Israel back then was God's economy. They lost that, now the Church with Christ as it's head is God's economy.

What can be worst then THAT?
Nothing

But does not God says just like the jews fell away, their would be a falling away with the gentile church?
 
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Just trying to destroy all arguments people may come up with. It is true though is it not? Did Jesus mean just jew when he said "all Life" or did he mean " All Life as in all life in the region (if 70 ad was the fulfilment) or the world (if it is yet future)

we only have two possible fulfiments.
 

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I know some people do not like this. But nothing that can be done about it. Satan has been twisting the truth like this since the begining of time. I do not see him stoping it. The more people he can have not ready, the more damage he incurres.


nobody saw that EG.
you're good.
:)
 

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Just trying to destroy all arguments people may come up with. It is true though is it not? Did Jesus mean just jew when he said "all Life" or did he mean " All Life as in all life in the region (if 70 ad was the fulfilment) or the world (if it is yet future)

we only have two possible fulfiments.
destroy all arguments?
using dispensationalism?

not gonna happen:)




give it up bud.




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Yep it would. but not overnight, It would take awhile.

And your right. All LIFE on the planet would be at risk. Thanks for showing what Jesus meant when he said, if he did not "cut it short" No life would be saved.. Now just open your heart. And think how what you said goes right along with What Jesus said, And the reason he said he would cut it short for the sake of the elect.
UMMM But EG it's only one third of the light being dimmed suppose be closer to the BEGINNING of the tribulation. The earth would not survive that long. It would only be a matter of days and the entire globe would go into a deep freeze. Do you have any how quickly ponds and lakes can freeze when the temps rapidly enough? The land itself loses a whole lot of heat once the sun is down. It would only be a matter of days or weeks not years.
 
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UMMM But EG it's only one third of the light being dimmed suppose be closer to the BEGINNING of the tribulation. The earth would not survive that long. It would only be a matter of days and the entire globe would go into a deep freeze. Do you have any how quickly ponds and lakes can freeze when the temps rapidly enough? The land itself loses a whole lot of heat once the sun is down. It would only be a matter of days or weeks not years.

lol. Well that is assumption as to when it will happen.

and again, Why do you think the kings of the earth hide themselves and say how feirce the wrath of God is, and who can withstand it.

I live in the north. Our lakes rivers and waterways freeze every year for half a year.

Also notice. not only does 1/3 of sun go out. But it says their water and everything in 1/3 of the earth is destroyed to. So it would beg to reason that in 1/3 of the earth. Life is destroyed. would it not?
 
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destroy all arguments?
using dispensationalism?

not gonna happen:)
Well if your mind is closed. It won't. But I have destroyed the arguments. Look at the responses I get.

No answers. Silly answers. or outright mocking attacks..

That makes me smile.. :)
;)
 

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Well if your mind is closed. It won't. But I have destroyed the arguments. Look at the responses I get.

No answers. Silly answers. or outright mocking attacks..

That makes me smile.. :)
;)
silly posts, yes.
mocking? not really. not mocking you.
just dispensationalism.

that's allowed.
it's absurd.
 
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the gentile church?

what's that?

Isreal was the OT church. Yet throughout it all. There was a small portion of gentiles who where included in the faith of the church. Thus it was called Isreal. even though it was a mix.

The church is mostly gentile. with a few jews. Same thing..

As Paul said, Israel has been partially blinded. And as scripture says, in the last days there will be a falling away. Who do you think is being refered to here as "falling away"
 
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silly posts, yes.
mocking? not really. not mocking you.
just dispensationalism.

that's allowed.
it's absurd.
Well you mock that. You mock me.

And forgive me sis if I say it.

Amilenialsim is absurb. It says God does not keep his promises. So forgive me if I deny it. And will continue to deny any belief that says God will not keep his promise.

And if your going to call dispensationalism absurb, You should figure out what it is. All I hear from you and the other two in here is mocking a form of dispensationalism that is not even very prevalent, Is only believed by a few. And is not even mainstream. Which is why you keep saying we believe things we do not. Because you DO NOT understand it.

It is no different than a legalist calling you and I a licentious believer. Because they hear us teach faith alone. But they do not understand what we teach because they are stuck on the licentious part. Of which a very small amount of faith alobe believers even belong to. They are mocking the non mainstream belief system. and saying those of us in mainstream faith alone circles believe as they do. No matter what we say!
 

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Isreal was the OT church. Yet throughout it all. There was a small portion of gentiles who where included in the faith of the church. Thus it was called Isreal. even though it was a mix.

The church is mostly gentile. with a few jews. Same thing..

As Paul said, Israel has been partially blinded.
no, this is more of the same.
of course there are more gentiles - the jewish nation was small compared to the millions and millions of gentiles.

that doesn't make it a gentile church.

that makes it THE CHURCH - where there is no distinction.

Israel has been partially blinded?

<sigh>

so....all the ones that died in unbelief couldn't shake that partial blinding?
 
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no, this is more of the same.
of course there are more gentiles - the jewish nation was small compared to the millions and millions of gentiles.

that doesn't make it a gentile church.

that makes it THE CHURCH - where there is no distinction.

Israel has been partially blinded?

<sigh>

so....all the ones that died in unbelief couldn't shake that partial blinding?
lol. It is still a gentile church. Who do you think most of the people are.

and you ignored the fact that although Isreal was small in comparison in the OT, There were still more saved jews than gentiles

SHake the partial blindness?? Well if they opened their eyes, they could overcome it. They are blinded in unbelief are they not? Is this any different than the gentiles blinded by unbelief in the OT?


Its funny. Israel mocked us "unclean" gentiles in the OT and spread their hate an anguish on us.. Seems like we are making the same mistakes they did.
 
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well, i guess that can't be helped.
you shouldn't be so married to a false system.

makes it harder to get free.
Yuo don;t even know my system. so how can you call it false?

You can't condemn a small aspect of the system (which you are doing, and I right along with you) and state the whole system is false.

That is being closed minded.

Sorry sis, but that is the facts.

We both have been mocking the one person in here which believes in the dispensational form you are fighting, and talk about all the time. You can't be offset you do not see that.
 

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Amilenialsim is absurb. It says God does not keep his promises.
should i rant here about you misrepresenting what i believe?:)

God kept all His promises to Israel.

Romans 3:3
God’s Righteousness Upheld
1Then what advantage has the Jew? Or what is the value of circumcision? 2Much in every way. To begin with, the Jews were entrusted with the oracles of God. 3What if some were unfaithful? Does their faithlessness nullify the faithfulness of God? 4By no means! Let God be true though every one were a liar, as it is written,

“That you may be justified in your words,
and prevail when you are judged.”

5But if our unrighteousness serves to show the righteousness of God, what shall we say? That God is unrighteous to inflict wrath on us? (I speak in a human way.) 6By no means! For then how could God judge the world? 7But if through my lie God’s truth abounds to his glory, why am I still being condemned as a sinner? 8And why not do evil that good may come?—as some people slanderously charge us with saying. Their condemnation is just.

No One Is Righteous
9What then? Are we Jewsa any better off?b No, not at all. For we have already charged that all, both Jews and Greeks, are under sin, 10as it is written:

“None is righteous, no, not one;
11 no one understands;
no one seeks for God.
12 All have turned aside; together they have become worthless;
no one does good,
not even one.”
13 “Their throat is an open grave;
they use their tongues to deceive.”
“The venom of asps is under their lips.”
14 “Their mouth is full of curses and bitterness.”
15 “Their feet are swift to shed blood;
16 in their paths are ruin and misery,
17 and the way of peace they have not known.”
18 “There is no fear of God before their eyes.”

19Now we know that whatever the law says it speaks to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be stopped, and the whole world may be held accountable to God. 20For by works of the law no human beingc will be justified in his sight, since through the law comes knowledge of sin.

The Righteousness of God Through Faith
21But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it— 22the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction: 23for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, 25whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God’s righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins. 26It was to show his righteousness at the present time, so that he might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.
 

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Yuo don;t even know my system. so how can you call it false?

You can't condemn a small aspect of the system (which you are doing, and I right along with you) and state the whole system is false.

That is being closed minded.

Sorry sis, but that is the facts.

We both have been mocking the one person in here which believes in the dispensational form you are fighting, and talk about all the time. You can't be offset you do not see that.
revised dispensationalism is still the same creature.
the one in here is just up front about it.
 

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lol. It is still a gentile church. Who do you think most of the people are.

and you ignored the fact that although Isreal was small in comparison in the OT, There were still more saved jews than gentiles

SHake the partial blindness?? Well if they opened their eyes, they could overcome it. They are blinded in unbelief are they not? Is this any different than the gentiles blinded by unbelief in the OT?
right.
to the jew first, then the gentile.

because they are blind, does that mean they are beloved and accepted?
are unbelieving gentiles?

muslims?

WHY NOT?
 
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right.
to the jew first, then the gentile.

because they are blind, does that mean they are beloved and accepted?
are unbelieving gentiles?

muslims?

WHY NOT?
Rom 11: [SUP]28 [/SUP]Concerning the gospel they are enemies for your sake, but concerning the election they are beloved for the sake of the fathers.

They are not beloved because they are sinners. or Israel.

they ae beloved because of the promises God made to their fathers (abraham, Isaac and Jacob) which are still binding.