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i don't understand how Mark 10:11-12 and Luke16:18 are things that are to be examined. at face value they speak spirit and life and truth. especially since they came from Jesus' mouth.
pople are not bound in situations where one leaves, meaning they are not bound to shame or sin. they are bound by the law of god though that says if we remarry we commit adultery.
pople are not bound in situations where one leaves, meaning they are not bound to shame or sin. they are bound by the law of god though that says if we remarry we commit adultery.
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Marriage is a sacred thing in the eyes of God. It is a man and woman coming together to produce other human beings. The man and the women become one flesh. They are a unit Just as The Father and the Son and the Holy Ghost are one unit. These three came together as one and created man and woman. They do not divorce, in fact Jesus said if you have seen me then you have seen the Father.
My wife has the power and ability to act in my name and I have the same authority.
Divorce is tragedy caused by Satan and flesh. When you marry you make vows, these vows are stored in heaven. Breaking the vow of marriage is the same as breaking a vow with God. Jesus did give one exception and that is if your spouse habitually engages in sexual immorality.
Divorce with children is devastating to the children.
Pick your spouse wisely, this is the reason for sex after marriage . If you go by this rule. then you don't know to flip me this way and stick your tongue in my ear and this or that. You just love your spouse and are happy happy happy.
To marry a divorced person is adultery in the eyes of God. But if that was done before coming to the cross, then it's okay.
In fact Paul said that a person that got saved and their spouse refused that they were free to divorce, but recommended that they stay in that bondage in the hopes that their spouse would get saved at a later date with you as witness.
Divorce is never good and nothing good comes from it. Amen
My wife has the power and ability to act in my name and I have the same authority.
Divorce is tragedy caused by Satan and flesh. When you marry you make vows, these vows are stored in heaven. Breaking the vow of marriage is the same as breaking a vow with God. Jesus did give one exception and that is if your spouse habitually engages in sexual immorality.
Divorce with children is devastating to the children.
Pick your spouse wisely, this is the reason for sex after marriage . If you go by this rule. then you don't know to flip me this way and stick your tongue in my ear and this or that. You just love your spouse and are happy happy happy.
To marry a divorced person is adultery in the eyes of God. But if that was done before coming to the cross, then it's okay.
In fact Paul said that a person that got saved and their spouse refused that they were free to divorce, but recommended that they stay in that bondage in the hopes that their spouse would get saved at a later date with you as witness.
Divorce is never good and nothing good comes from it. Amen
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why did all the english translators misquote the hebrew, armaiac and greek when they "wrote"the scriptures in english? just because one translation says "law" and another translation reads "teaching" doesn't mean they're misquoted. this is all semantics... i paraphrased it. a twoedged sword came out of jesus mouth in revelation, that was his tongue, or the word of god. so you can biblically say that a sword can represent somones tongue..."there is that speakth like the peircing of a sword, but the tongue of the wise is health" proverbs 12:18 the word of god is quick and sharper than any twoedged sword (tongue/thought/opinion), judging the intents of the heart. the heart is where words/opinions come from. jeremiah talks about the heart being deceptive and sick who can understanding it. that's why i said "the deceptive heart" i didn't misquote, i applied sound biblical perspectives
First, psychomom is one of the nicest people in this forum. If you observed carefully you will note that psycho is twinned with "mom." I guess you have never raised children, because there are times it can make you crazy - or psycho.
As for this entire thread, it is really just another theology wrong statement that you can lose your salvation by your works. (Or gain it by "acting" righteous - which I believe is called "self-righteous! Something Jesus was forever condemning the Pharisees for!)
God is a God of forgiveness. He helps us grow and become more like him through everything in our life. God transforms us as we walk with him. We do not transform ourselves.
"Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect." Romans 12:2
"And we all, with unveiled face, beholding the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from one degree of glory to another. For this comes from the Lord who is the Spirit." 2 Cor. 3:18
In both these passages, transform is in the PASSIVE voice in the Greek. That means that it is something God does to us. It is not about our self righteous acts and legalism! Time to stop judging others!
“Judge not, that you be not judged. [SUP]2 [/SUP]For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, andwith the measure you use it will be measured to you. [SUP]3 [/SUP]Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?" Matt 7:1-3
As for this entire thread, it is really just another theology wrong statement that you can lose your salvation by your works. (Or gain it by "acting" righteous - which I believe is called "self-righteous! Something Jesus was forever condemning the Pharisees for!)
God is a God of forgiveness. He helps us grow and become more like him through everything in our life. God transforms us as we walk with him. We do not transform ourselves.
"Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect." Romans 12:2
"And we all, with unveiled face, beholding the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from one degree of glory to another. For this comes from the Lord who is the Spirit." 2 Cor. 3:18
In both these passages, transform is in the PASSIVE voice in the Greek. That means that it is something God does to us. It is not about our self righteous acts and legalism! Time to stop judging others!
“Judge not, that you be not judged. [SUP]2 [/SUP]For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, andwith the measure you use it will be measured to you. [SUP]3 [/SUP]Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?" Matt 7:1-3
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The issue of her name is irrelevant here, but how do you know that she does'nt have a degree in psychology and just incorporated that with being a mom, into her user name? I don't know if she has a degree or not, I'm just showing an example..lol.. As for my knowlege here, I'm no smarter than anyone else here but at least I dont misinterpret or misapply and twist scripture to fit what I'm saying to people like some (not you necessarily) do on here..
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Question: "Is remarriage after divorce always adultery?"
Answer: Before we even begin to answer this question, let us reiterate, "God hates divorce" (Malachi 2:16). The pain, confusion, and frustration most people experience after a divorce are surely part of the reason that God hates divorce. Even more difficult, biblically, than the question of divorce, is the question of remarriage. The vast majority of people who divorce either remarry or consider getting remarried. What does the Bible say about this?
Matthew 19:9 says, "I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, and marries another woman commits adultery." See also Matthew 5:32. These Scriptures clearly state that remarriage after a divorce is adultery, except in the instance of "marital unfaithfulness." In regards to this "exception clause" and its implications, please read the following articles:
What does the Bible say about divorce and remarriage?
I am divorced. Can I remarry?
It is our view that there are certain instances in which divorce and remarriage are permitted without the remarriage being considered adultery. These instances would include unrepentant adultery, physical abuse of spouse or children, and abandonment of a believing spouse by an unbelieving spouse. We are not saying that a person under such circumstances should remarry. The Bible definitely encourages remaining single or reconciliation over remarriage (1 Corinthians 7:11). At the same time, it is our view that God offers His mercy and grace to the innocent party in a divorce and allows that person to remarry without it being considered adultery.
A person who gets a divorce for a reason other than the reasons listed above, and then gets remarried has committed adultery (Luke 16:18). The question then becomes, is this remarriage an "act" of adultery, or a "state" of adultery. The present tense of the Greek in Matthew 5:32; 19:9; and Luke 16:18 can indicate a continuous state of adultery. At the same time, the present tense in Greek does not always indicate continuous action. Sometimes it simply means that something occurred (Aoristic, Punctiliar, or Gnomic present). For example, the word "divorces" in Matthew 5:32 is present tense, but divorcing is not a continual action. It is our view that remarriage, no matter the circumstances, is not a continual state of adultery. Only the act of getting remarried itself is adultery.
In the Old Testament Law, the punishment for adultery was death (Leviticus 20:10). At the same time, Deuteronomy 24:1-4 mentions remarriage after a divorce, does not call it adultery, and does not demand the death penalty for the remarried spouse. The Bible explicitly says that God hates divorce (Malachi 2:16), but nowhere explicitly states that God hates remarriage. The Bible nowhere commands a remarried couple to divorce.Deuteronomy 24:1-4 does not describe the remarriage as invalid. Ending a remarriage through divorce would be just as sinful as ending a first marriage through divorce. Both would include the breaking of vows before God, between the couple, and in front of witnesses.
No matter the circumstances, once a couple is remarried, they should strive to live out their married lives in fidelity, in a God-honoring way, with Christ at the center of their marriage. A marriage is a marriage. God does not view the new marriage as invalid or adulterous. A remarried couple should devote themselves to God, and to each other – and honor Him by making their new marriage a lasting and Christ-centered one (Ephesians 5:22-33).
Recommended Resources: Divorce and Remarriage: 4 Views edited By H. Wayne Houseand Logos Bible Software.
Answer: Before we even begin to answer this question, let us reiterate, "God hates divorce" (Malachi 2:16). The pain, confusion, and frustration most people experience after a divorce are surely part of the reason that God hates divorce. Even more difficult, biblically, than the question of divorce, is the question of remarriage. The vast majority of people who divorce either remarry or consider getting remarried. What does the Bible say about this?
Matthew 19:9 says, "I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, and marries another woman commits adultery." See also Matthew 5:32. These Scriptures clearly state that remarriage after a divorce is adultery, except in the instance of "marital unfaithfulness." In regards to this "exception clause" and its implications, please read the following articles:
What does the Bible say about divorce and remarriage?
I am divorced. Can I remarry?
It is our view that there are certain instances in which divorce and remarriage are permitted without the remarriage being considered adultery. These instances would include unrepentant adultery, physical abuse of spouse or children, and abandonment of a believing spouse by an unbelieving spouse. We are not saying that a person under such circumstances should remarry. The Bible definitely encourages remaining single or reconciliation over remarriage (1 Corinthians 7:11). At the same time, it is our view that God offers His mercy and grace to the innocent party in a divorce and allows that person to remarry without it being considered adultery.
A person who gets a divorce for a reason other than the reasons listed above, and then gets remarried has committed adultery (Luke 16:18). The question then becomes, is this remarriage an "act" of adultery, or a "state" of adultery. The present tense of the Greek in Matthew 5:32; 19:9; and Luke 16:18 can indicate a continuous state of adultery. At the same time, the present tense in Greek does not always indicate continuous action. Sometimes it simply means that something occurred (Aoristic, Punctiliar, or Gnomic present). For example, the word "divorces" in Matthew 5:32 is present tense, but divorcing is not a continual action. It is our view that remarriage, no matter the circumstances, is not a continual state of adultery. Only the act of getting remarried itself is adultery.
In the Old Testament Law, the punishment for adultery was death (Leviticus 20:10). At the same time, Deuteronomy 24:1-4 mentions remarriage after a divorce, does not call it adultery, and does not demand the death penalty for the remarried spouse. The Bible explicitly says that God hates divorce (Malachi 2:16), but nowhere explicitly states that God hates remarriage. The Bible nowhere commands a remarried couple to divorce.Deuteronomy 24:1-4 does not describe the remarriage as invalid. Ending a remarriage through divorce would be just as sinful as ending a first marriage through divorce. Both would include the breaking of vows before God, between the couple, and in front of witnesses.
No matter the circumstances, once a couple is remarried, they should strive to live out their married lives in fidelity, in a God-honoring way, with Christ at the center of their marriage. A marriage is a marriage. God does not view the new marriage as invalid or adulterous. A remarried couple should devote themselves to God, and to each other – and honor Him by making their new marriage a lasting and Christ-centered one (Ephesians 5:22-33).
Recommended Resources: Divorce and Remarriage: 4 Views edited By H. Wayne Houseand Logos Bible Software.
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Actully God did bring those people together, one man in his late 60s, single and never married, always faithful to God, always wanted a wife and family. God told him to marry a divorced woman in her late 40s, God even blessed them with a son, which was nothing short of miraculous.
Revelator, are you struggling with sexual sin? Are you struggling with coping with celibacy? It seems you are trying to hide your own guilt and sin.
Seriously, no one would get into heaven if what you say is true.
Revelator, are you struggling with sexual sin? Are you struggling with coping with celibacy? It seems you are trying to hide your own guilt and sin.
Seriously, no one would get into heaven if what you say is true.
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I just don't understand how or why God would tell someone to marry a divorced woman when God's word says, "Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery, and the man who marries a divorced woman commits adultery (Luke 16:18)." God would never go against his own word. Do you understand my confusion here?