do demons turn on.each other?

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rillolion

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I was wondering if anyone might have some insight on the demonic forces and their allegiance to each other...do they betray each other? I was watching a documentary on the illuminati and a man who was affiliated with a cult group was exposing other demonic secrets...and I thought why would this person who is apparently lead by a demon be exposing another demon plot..?????


Your comments are appreciated...



Shalom
 
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cfultz3

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I was wondering if anyone might have some insight on the demonic forces and their allegiance to each other...do they betray each other? I was watching a documentary on the illuminati and a man who was affiliated with a cult group was exposing other demonic secrets...and I thought why would this person who is apparently lead by a demon be exposing another demon plot..?????


Your comments are appreciated...

Shalom
We are told by Jesus, when He was being accused of working for bel***, something along the lines that a house divided cannot stand. But, I am sure they work hard in building up their own house, inasmuch as a Christian would work to build his house unto God.
 
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nathan3

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no thoughts on this , at alllll
 
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Abiding

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they have rank and order, and i dont spose they are at all upright and honest,
but beyond that i really dont care or even give them space in my thinking.
 
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BarlyGurl

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much more beneficial to study the word than dabble in demonology.
 
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That we can speak about this,we have to know
who are they and what do they doing.
Demons are fallen Angels.They who turned against God and they who works to force man to sin and finally lose his soul.
What we also have to know is how demons work.
First of all,demons are spirits.An evil spirits,so we cant see them.They have no power to throw cars on us as in movies,but their power is different and very big.
Demons power is reflected in capability,how do they use lies.And how does demons use lies?They use them by bad suggestions to us.In our around,every day and night is leading war between demons and Angels for man soul,by suggestions which is manifested as our thoughts and minds.Good thoughts and evil thoughts.Only on us is to decide which one shall we accept.And that is our free will.Man have a free will to decide what side he wants to stand,to be good man and honest,righterious or to be bad man who use lies or something worst.And,there are no demons who fight against demons,because their only job is to leading man to doom and hell.And that is all.
 

Grandpa

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CS Lewis wrote a book called Screwtape Letters. IF you haven't read it I recommend it... Frank Peretti has some pretty good books too.

They are works of fiction (as far as I can tell) but are a pretty neat perspective to see.
 
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demons do not turn on each other. "a kingdom divided cannot stand" they are in complete unison with each other, there is no division among them.
 
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Abiding

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demons do not turn on each other. "a kingdom divided cannot stand" they are in complete unison with each other, there is no division among them.
but all the time they pose as if they are dividing...anything to deceive.
that how vodoo and alot of satanic cults operate, false healings etc
 
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Ugly

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Well, your first mistake is wasting time in Illuminati conspiracies.
Second, no one really knows for sure, as the bible doesn't really specify a lot about demonic behavior.
Most likely they don't. The best way to keep unity is to have them united against a common enemy (God) so that they focus on their enemy more than each other. Who knows, there may be 'arguments' but i am doubtful of full on fights or whatever. Of course, this is my opinion, and all answers will boil down to speculation.
 
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Well, your first mistake is wasting time in Illuminati conspiracies.
Second, no one really knows for sure, as the bible doesn't really specify a lot about demonic behavior.
Most likely they don't. The best way to keep unity is to have them united against a common enemy (God) so that they focus on their enemy more than each other. Who knows, there may be 'arguments' but i am doubtful of full on fights or whatever. Of course, this is my opinion, and all answers will boil down to speculation.
actuallywhen Jesus was accused of casting out demons by Beelzebub's power, his reply was "a kingdom divided cannot stand" this has multiple understandings attached to it. 1 being that demons are NOT divided, as their kingdom has stood over the centuries..
 

HEIsRiSen

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You say he was affiliated with a cult group, is he still affiliated with them or not? Often times these people become born-again Christians and devote themselves to exposing the ways of the wicked.
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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jesus once explained how demons do not cast out demons...they do not divide their house by going against each other...

the key to resolving your confusion about this is that 'the illuminati' does not actually exist...so this is not one demonic group exposing another...this is a demonic occultic group trying to distract and deceive people with a false expose of a nonexistent evil group...
 

seoulsearch

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While I agree with the fact that Scripture doesn't address this specific topic, I do find it interesting that throughout human history, when it comes to war and the sides involved, there have always, without exception, been betrayals and double-crossings.

Someone is always trying to get ahead by stepping on someone else. If that's true among the ranks of humans... I can't help but speculate that how much more it might be so amongst demonic beings.

But we do know that some things humans participate in are not things that spiritual beings participate in, such as marriage, so maybe not.

I have a good friend who has lived through rough situations all his life and seen a lot of what we believe was demonically-inspired actions. His personal belief, interestingly, is that there may be demons who refuse to serve any master, simply out of pride and rebellion (which were the two major issues that led to Lucifer being kicked out of heaven in the first place.)

I find it very intriguing that the Gospel lists some of Jesus' healing interactions with demon-possessed men who lived in completely abandoned places--in other words, whatever was possessing them at the time seemed to prefer complete isolation--but once Jesus commanded the demons to leave, they came back into a normal state of joining society.

*shrugs* We will probably never know until we get to heaven, and of course, our goal is to continually seek the wisdom and truth of God, but these are just a few observations.
 
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danschance

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If lucifer can go against God, I see no reason why other demons or fallen angels wouldn't at times turn on each other.
 
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rillolion

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Well, your first mistake is wasting time in Illuminati conspiracies.
Second, no one really knows for sure, as the bible doesn't really specify a lot about demonic behavior.
Most likely they don't. The best way to keep unity is to have them united against a common enemy (God) so that they focus on their enemy more than each other. Who knows, there may be 'arguments' but i am doubtful of full on fights or whatever. Of course, this is my opinion, and all answers will boil down to speculation.
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I suggest u watch this link....maybe you'll.change your.mind after u see some.light!
 

homwardbound

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demons do not turn on each other. "a kingdom divided cannot stand" they are in complete unison with each other, there is no division among them.
Oh yes they do they are after what flesh is after to be on top,
John 10:10 The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.

This is what one is first born with and taught by this world and Emotion is strongly used to do exactly this to people of the flesh not born again yet of the Spirit of christ

We are in a Spiritual warfare

2 Corinthians 10:4For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds,

Strongholds are ones Emotions that got their from thought(s) accepted and those bad thoughts control the behavior. No one can change their emotion(s) but one can change their thought(s) that is why we are to after belief in Christ do the following:
Romans 12:2Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will.

 

homwardbound

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but all the time they pose as if they are dividing...anything to deceive.
that how vodoo and alot of satanic cults operate, false healings etc
They only do this for some gain for them the same as flesh does
 

homwardbound

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I was wondering if anyone might have some insight on the demonic forces and their allegiance to each other...do they betray each other? I was watching a documentary on the illuminati and a man who was affiliated with a cult group was exposing other demonic secrets...and I thought why would this person who is apparently lead by a demon be exposing another demon plot..?????


Your comments are appreciated...



Shalom
Matthew 10:16[ Persecutions Are Coming ] “Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves. Therefore be wise as serpents and harmless as doves.
2 Corinthians 10:4For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds,

The biggest deception today is: one after salvation believing in Christ are taught the ways of this carnal world and there are many believers miserable behind closed doors because they try topull down strongholds and can't. It is only God that has done this back at the cross andf only through oine trust in God that has done this can they have the victory as well. It has nothing to do with us trying to behave.
Because us trying and wanting to behave is nothing more than a fleshly carnal act period and keeps one in sin.
We are to die to, and believe God will and has raised us from the dead as he did Christ already, if you really desire to have strongholds pulled down and not be miserable in trying to anylonger believe in the finished work of Christ at the cross, he already did thid for you by the death and the assurance of this is by the
Romans 1:4and declared to be the Son of God with power according to the Spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead.
Romans 4:17(as it is written, “I have made you a father of many nations”) in the presence of Him whom he believed—God, who gives life to the dead and calls those things which do not exist as though they did;
Romans 4:24but also for us. It shall be imputed to us who believe in Him who raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead,
Righteousness a new life, and everything is imoputed to us by What? to those that beleive
Where are works?
Romans 4:4Now to him who works, the wages are not counted as grace but as debt.
Works are only a by-product of Faith in Christ and they are not our works they the works of God through the one that beleives
Romans 3:27[ Boasting Excluded ] Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? Of works? No, but by the law of faith.

I hope you are getting a picture of what this world has done to many a people that are stuck working for their salvation in misery trying truly from their heart wanting to serve God and have been miserable, and I have been there and done that and am sure their are other Christians here that have as well.
One of the biggest mistakes one can make is not believe that their are demons in this world doing their best to deceive as Grrandpa mentioned CS Lewis the Screwtape letters very eye opening and Frank Parretti are very good authors ito and about demonic activity, and the only way that they can get you is through ones thought process this is why we are to
Romans 12:2And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
And see things from God's vantage point asking God to show us the whole truth and for us to see how deep the death burial and especially the resurrection goes, so we can be set free from this world and its demoniuc ways of selfishness, and not trusting God to supply their every living need to survive, for Jesus is the way the truth and the life to have everlasting life that is.
Emotions, are a stronghold and used by demonic forces, first it puts a thought in one head, one receives the thought and accepts that bad thought of that other person or a lusting thought of another person, or better yet a christian that is trying to stop these thoughts and is thinking about it even to stop it has in essence been taken captive and will eventually do exactly what it is thinking about not doing just read Romans 7 it is clear. Our warfare is Spiritual the thoughts that take us under its control. So everytime we continue to to try and obey we do just the opposite and feel unworthy, never finalizing the cross and unto the resurrection of new life where one just trusts God that God has got it all taken care of for you by trusting God.
This is why God said to trust him a zilion times in the Bible, and not once have I ever heard or said in the word to figure it out. You know why? Because God ahs already got it all figured out s o he just asks for your trust and thus you rest in himas he has asked in Hebrews 3 and 4 and this is alldone by belief in him, So ask for Gopd to show waht he ahs done for you and be free from all the demonic activity knowing by trust God has got you covered and smothered in him