Do Evangelicals hate Jesus?

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he wasn't judged by other men, he committed suicide most agree.
If he did commit suicide it was because he could not bear defeat and that he did want to fall into the hands of the Soviets which he knew would be very bad for him, it was not, I repeat not, because he felt guilty.
 

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If he did commit suicide it was because he could not bear defeat and that he did want to fall into the hands of the Soviets which he knew would be very bad for him, it was not, I repeat not, because he felt guilty.
no but he sent himself to judgement with one who is much more fearsome than Stalin. Sociopaths are incapable of feeling guilt.
 
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no but he sent himself to judgement with one who is much more fearsome than Stalin. Sociopaths are incapable of feeling guilt.
Well yes, but, that does not relate to my point that Christians do indeed need to make judgements about people in leadership.
People confuse judging with condemning.
 

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Ok why dose conversions like this always eventually bring up Hitler?
What about Stalin , or Mao Zedong , Caligula?
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Ok why dose conversions like this always eventually bring up Hitler?
What about Stalin , or Mao Zedong , Caligula?
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Because of media Hitler is the most villainized in recent history but most certainly not the worst.
 
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Ok why dose conversions like this always eventually bring up Hitler?
What about Stalin , or Mao Zedong , Caligula?
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Because it is imperative to demonstrate the logical end of wrong thinking.

We live under the rule of law, if Trump in his role as president has lied he should be called out as a liar as should anyone one in political office, I am not speaking about his personal conversations.

It seems to me the that those on the right have adopted the same thinking as the left during Clinton administration, when he was found to be a liar.

Are we no longer salt and light? We fall back on "we all lie" therefore we have no right to judge, the evil of this thinking is allowing evil to flourish.
 
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Because of media Hitler is the most villainized in recent history but most certainly not the worst.
Are you serious, Hitler was vilified?

Hitler was not vilified, he was in fact evil.
 

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oh stop for cryin out loud you know what I mean, hitler, stalin, musolini, caliguigula… all were monster of flesh and bone. People worshiped them and still worship hitler. The tattoo 88 stands for hiel hitler!
 
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oh stop for cryin out loud you know what I mean, hitler, stalin, musolini, caliguigula… all were monster of flesh and bone. People worshiped them and still worship hitler. The tattoo 88 stands for hiel hitler!
Well say it clearly then, one does not vilify (villianize) a guilty person.
 

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no, they are villans to start with. like Kissinger, Johnson, castro, ho chi minn, Nixon...manson….bundy, Rockefeller, j. w. gasey...the list never ends.
 
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no, they are villans to start with. like Kissinger, Johnson, castro, ho chi minn, Nixon...manson….bundy, Rockefeller, j. w. gasey...the list never ends.

I agree with that, but that is not the word you used, you said "villianize" this has a whole different meaning.

By saying that Hitler was the most "vilianized" is to insinuate that he was was not as guilty of crimes but that others we laying the crimes on him.

Words do matter, I just want to keep the right perspective, Christians get a lot of grief by the left and we need to use words correctly.

Anyway a side issue I think we both agree.
 

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I agree with that, but that is not the word you used, you said "villianize" this has a whole different meaning.

By saying that Hitler was the most "vilianized" is to insinuate that he was was not as guilty of crimes but that others we laying the crimes on him.

Words do matter, I just want to keep the right perspective, Christians get a lot of grief by the left and we need to use words correctly.

Anyway a side issue I think we both agree.
OK, I recant, Hitler gets more press, so he has become more memorable.