Do Evangelicals hate Jesus?

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calibob

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Oh dear oh dear oh dear. Politics is a worldly realm. The 'god' of this world pulls the strings of politics. Please see beyond what you are told is 'true'. Do you think the enemy controls the mass media, with all its spin and sensationalism? Defo. God looks on the heart. As His children, so can we. Personality politics is a mucky puddle. The worldly systems are not under our control, capitalist or socialist or anarchist or oligarchy, etc. The enemy is the father of lies and want to distract if he (it) can not deceive.

The best way to prevent someone from hearing the truth is to convince them they already have it.

I want the scales to fall from all our eyes. Jesus warned about being deceived.
AMEN, 10-4, roger that, truedat, homerun...
I am not completely sure what you are saying here calibob, but in my experience those without money can far more worshipers of money than those who do have it.

Socialism comes to mind, they want what others have.
that we as Christian voters should a. put all pastors & teacher to the test of the gospel of Jesus and the rest of the new testament. b. Vote for love and peace when possible and c. Be good stewards of this planet that God lets us use.
 
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AMEN, 10-4, roger that, truedat, homerun...

that we as Christian voters should a. put all pastors & teacher to the test of the gospel of Jesus and the rest of the new testament. b. Vote for love and peace when possible and c. Be good stewards of this planet that God lets us use.
"a" yes agreed

"b" not sure how one votes for love and peace, we live a fallen world, Presidents have done a great job over the years pretending to support Christian values so they would get the Christian vote, at least in Canada they do not maintain that facade for the most part.

"c" sure as long as it isn't aligned with the brainwashed environmentalist left that believe people are the problem and therefore should be reduced in number.
 

calibob

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b, don't vote for war mongers. or racists.
c. Agreed!
 

calibob

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Roy Moore, Jeff Sessions, the supporters of the KKK and Nazi Parties. Lewis Farrakon. I could mention some other groups from the other camp but the ones I remember are null and void now.
 
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Roy Moore, Jeff Sessions, the supporters of the KKK and Nazi Parties. Lewis Farrakon. I could mention some other groups from the other camp but the ones I remember are null and void now.
Well I would have to look up Roy Moore and Jeff Sessions, but now a days everyone is called a racist it is part of the far left game.
 
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Roy Moore, Jeff Sessions, the supporters of the KKK and Nazi Parties. Lewis Farrakon. I could mention some other groups from the other camp but the ones I remember are null and void now.
That's really funny . . . Jeff Sessions may well be worthless as an attorney general, but he singularly put the KKK out of business and prosecuted it's leaders. Is he a racist?

Oh, and you bought into that smear campaign against Moore? I bet you are really eating up the high tech lynching of Judge Brett Kavanaugh.
 

calibob

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Well I would have to look up Roy Moore and Jeff Sessions, but now a days everyone is called a racist it is part of the far left game.
I might have added Antifa but I'm not sure what they stand for, only what there against. And yes there is far too much name calling and polarization going on and I'm sick of it.
 

calibob

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That's really funny . . . Jeff Sessions may well be worthless as an attorney general, but he singularly put the KKK out of business and prosecuted it's leaders. Is he a racist?

Oh, and you bought into that smear campaign against Moore? I bet you are really eating up the high tech lynching of Judge Brett Kavanaugh.
I haven't had audio since that Kavanaugh debacle started. And I did see a video of Moore at a Rallye where they sang Dixie.
 
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I haven't had audio since that debacle started. And I did see a video of Moore at a Rallye where they sang Dixie.
He was at a rally where a confederate song was sung? Isn't that guilt by association, or character assassination by association? Is that fair?

Dixie? It's an old song loved by the South. What is it that is racist? Explain?

And is it okay to damage American monuments? Why is Robert Byrd still considered the "gentleman of the Senate?"
 

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There is a difference between supporting and advocating.
if you've ever advocated for a person then you've advocated for a liar since all people have lied

or we could stop passing judgment on sinful human nature and leave that up to God who has provided the atonement in Christ and commissioned the Church to preach the gospel

judging the sinful human nature of another person is judging ourselves because we all have sinful human nature (Romans 2:1)
 

calibob

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The CSA was an enemy of the United States, Lincoln only pardoned them to prevent more bloodshed, beside the guy presiding said let's sing our national anthem. Then they sang Dixie.

Guilt by association can send you to prison, often.
 
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The CSA was also made up of American citizens and their descendants have a first amendment right to be wrong if they want to be . . . yet the thought police of this country wish to infringe on that right.

Were not the Weather Underground considered terrorists, and yet Bill Ayers is still allowed to teach in a Chicago university when he should be rotting in jail.

I am sickened by the double standards in America.
 

calibob

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The CSA was also made up of American citizens and their descendants have a first amendment right to be wrong if they want to be . . . yet the thought police of this country wish to infringe on that right.

Were not the Weather Underground considered terrorists, and yet Bill Ayers is still allowed to teach in a Chicago university when he should be rotting in jail.

I am sickened by the double standards in America.
the weather underground, Ayers, & the black panther party are among the others I didn't mention because they are no longer significant threats to society. I as offended by the Dixie flag as I am the Nazi swastika, The Red star or burning crosses.
 
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if you've ever advocated for a person then you've advocated for a liar since all people have lied

or we could stop passing judgment on sinful human nature and leave that up to God who has provided the atonement in Christ and commissioned the Church to preach the gospel

judging the sinful human nature of another person is judging ourselves because we all have sinful human nature (Romans 2:1)
You have still missed the point, we are not to condemn, that is what scripture teaches, since we cannot see poeple's internal motives, but as citizens we are certainly acting appropriately to examine and make known the character of a person who is seeking or is in office.

In your world Hitler should have not been judged but allowed to carry on his atrocities.
 

calibob

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You have still missed the point, we are not to condemn, that is what scripture teaches, since we cannot see poeple's internal motives, but as citizens we are certainly acting appropriately to examine and make known the character of a person who is seeking or is in office.

In your world Hitler should have not been judged but allowed to carry on his atrocities.
Hitler judged himself.