Do I have the wrong idea of God?
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"Children of disobedience" is an identity, just as "children of God" is an identity. Children of disobedience refers to Adam's federal disobedience and includes all of the unregenerate energized by Satan (2 Cor. 4:3-4; 1 John 5:19).
If you are in Christ, you are a child of God, you are not a sinner, you are a saint. Believe it.
If you are in Christ, you are a child of God, you are not a sinner, you are a saint. Believe it.
Rest in His obedience.
Trust in His care, casting your cares upon Him and He will guide your steps...
Romans 5:19 (KJV) For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
1 Peter 5:7 (KJV) Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you.
Proverbs 16:9 (KJV) A man's heart deviseth his way: but the LORD directeth his steps.
Trust in His care, casting your cares upon Him and He will guide your steps...
Romans 5:19 (KJV) For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
1 Peter 5:7 (KJV) Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you.
Proverbs 16:9 (KJV) A man's heart deviseth his way: but the LORD directeth his steps.
Well, brother, I have to be honest with you, as I should say that I´ve never heard another christian saying we are not sinners, simply from the fact we´re in Christ...! In my opinion, were are all sinners.
Don´t you agree that every time you commit sin, we step apart from God? Why did He forsake Christ when He was on the cross? Wasn´t it because God is too Holly to be where sin is?
Let´s imagine, for example that a christian has a drug addiction problem (not my case, thank God). He tries by all means to quit it, but eventually, he falls and sticks to a life of drugs. Of course, we know that he will have serious problems with his life, and eventually he dies. He disobeyed God. Will he be saved?
Don´t you agree that every time you commit sin, we step apart from God? Why did He forsake Christ when He was on the cross? Wasn´t it because God is too Holly to be where sin is?
Let´s imagine, for example that a christian has a drug addiction problem (not my case, thank God). He tries by all means to quit it, but eventually, he falls and sticks to a life of drugs. Of course, we know that he will have serious problems with his life, and eventually he dies. He disobeyed God. Will he be saved?
Maybe I condemn myself too much, but my desire to obey God and please and serve Him is so big that I simply feel really bad every time I sin. But still, I believe I´m a sinner. We all are, in my opinion.
God is merciful, good, but He is also a God of justice, agreed?
But again, could you please clarify me about this:
- God is merciful, good, but He is also a God of justice, agreed? So, a christian can´t stop sinning, because he can´t stop drinking or can´t stop cheating each spouse he (re)marries. Won´t he/she stop being blessed by God eventually, and will he/she be saved?
God is merciful, good, but He is also a God of justice, agreed?
But again, could you please clarify me about this:
- God is merciful, good, but He is also a God of justice, agreed? So, a christian can´t stop sinning, because he can´t stop drinking or can´t stop cheating each spouse he (re)marries. Won´t he/she stop being blessed by God eventually, and will he/she be saved?
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His justice has been met in His Son.
If your identity is that of a sinner, then the most natural and logical thing for you to do would be to sin. But, if your identity is that of a saint, as God says it is, then the most unnatural and illogical thing for you to do would be to sin. Seeing yourself as God truly sees you is the beginning of living as who you now are, as opposed to living as who you used to be.
If your identity is that of a sinner, then the most natural and logical thing for you to do would be to sin. But, if your identity is that of a saint, as God says it is, then the most unnatural and illogical thing for you to do would be to sin. Seeing yourself as God truly sees you is the beginning of living as who you now are, as opposed to living as who you used to be.
Dear brothers and sisters,
I´m sorry to bring this subject again, but I believe I need help figuring this out, that it, the way I try by all means, to behave toward our Lord. And yes, this keeps leading to "Should I do this?", "Shouldn´t I do that?", etc...
I´m feeling somehow trapped in my own thoughts/analysis of want God wants from me. God´s divine Grace tells me that faith, love Him above all things and our neighbors as ourselves, is the right way to go. It also tell me that works/Law will not lead me to Salvation. However, Grace is not a license to sin!
NT is clear about many things a christian shouldn´t do. Drunkenness, adultery, sexual immorality, dissensions, lying, etc, etc, are some of many more. In the OT we get the "Do/don´t this" list, but the NT is also clear about things one shouldn´t do.
The question is bothering me very much, because I feel no peace with my relationship with the Lord. I really love Him, and nothing is more important than Him to me. However, I want to obey Him and please Him so much, that I carry a "I should do this!" and (MOSTLY) "I shouldn´t do this!" list of things, every day! And worse of all, I carry a feeling that IF I do something I feel I shouldn´t do, God will punish me! So, yeah, I fear His "wrath" toward me, somehow, every time I sin...!
But at the same time, I know He loves me, and that He will forgives me, if I truly repent, but still, I fear that He will forgive me, but will punish me, still...!
Yes, the dietetic laws are one thing that bother me. I find aspects that lead me to agree that christians are free from that laws (and sometimes from the Law), but since I want to obey Him and please Him so much, I fear He may us/me to obey those laws...!
One recent example: I always loved to see "X-Files", in fact, I bought the all series some years ago (before I was born again). Yes, we all know what "X-Files" deal about, and that are even some episodes that discredit Bible origin (God´s Word), as in one, it suggests that the Word of God was given by aliens. But, in spite of this one episode, all we have is conspiracy with Government, aliens, paranormal activity, etc. So, recently, I putted somehow in my head and started to feel that I shouldn´t see it (in spite of wishing to do it very much), because if I do it, God will be angry and will punish me somehow.
All I know is that, in spite of loving Him very much, I feel anxious/scared of committing sin, with my "I shouldn´t do this" every day list, fearing God´s punishment...!
I guess I can´t really live and a true christian would. Do I really live by the Grace? Do I have the wrong idea about God?
Please, comments and help would be really appreciated.
Thank you!
God bless you all!
I´m sorry to bring this subject again, but I believe I need help figuring this out, that it, the way I try by all means, to behave toward our Lord. And yes, this keeps leading to "Should I do this?", "Shouldn´t I do that?", etc...
I´m feeling somehow trapped in my own thoughts/analysis of want God wants from me. God´s divine Grace tells me that faith, love Him above all things and our neighbors as ourselves, is the right way to go. It also tell me that works/Law will not lead me to Salvation. However, Grace is not a license to sin!
NT is clear about many things a christian shouldn´t do. Drunkenness, adultery, sexual immorality, dissensions, lying, etc, etc, are some of many more. In the OT we get the "Do/don´t this" list, but the NT is also clear about things one shouldn´t do.
The question is bothering me very much, because I feel no peace with my relationship with the Lord. I really love Him, and nothing is more important than Him to me. However, I want to obey Him and please Him so much, that I carry a "I should do this!" and (MOSTLY) "I shouldn´t do this!" list of things, every day! And worse of all, I carry a feeling that IF I do something I feel I shouldn´t do, God will punish me! So, yeah, I fear His "wrath" toward me, somehow, every time I sin...!
But at the same time, I know He loves me, and that He will forgives me, if I truly repent, but still, I fear that He will forgive me, but will punish me, still...!
Yes, the dietetic laws are one thing that bother me. I find aspects that lead me to agree that christians are free from that laws (and sometimes from the Law), but since I want to obey Him and please Him so much, I fear He may us/me to obey those laws...!
One recent example: I always loved to see "X-Files", in fact, I bought the all series some years ago (before I was born again). Yes, we all know what "X-Files" deal about, and that are even some episodes that discredit Bible origin (God´s Word), as in one, it suggests that the Word of God was given by aliens. But, in spite of this one episode, all we have is conspiracy with Government, aliens, paranormal activity, etc. So, recently, I putted somehow in my head and started to feel that I shouldn´t see it (in spite of wishing to do it very much), because if I do it, God will be angry and will punish me somehow.
All I know is that, in spite of loving Him very much, I feel anxious/scared of committing sin, with my "I shouldn´t do this" every day list, fearing God´s punishment...!
I guess I can´t really live and a true christian would. Do I really live by the Grace? Do I have the wrong idea about God?
Please, comments and help would be really appreciated.
Thank you!
God bless you all!
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I think this is your answer. Instead of going down the law, go toward Jesus. Ask Old Hermit's questions for yourseld and God leads you to his way.
That said, I am a Stargate's fan, did watch X-Files, (debating if I want to watch the new one, given after ten years the first series never answered ANY of the obvious questions, but that's a fangirl debate, not something God's leading me into or away from lol), Buffy and Angel fan, and watched Supernatural until two years after the Apocalypse. (It's still going. How long after the end of the world is it going to keep going?)
Stargate seems to be worse than X-Files ever was. X-Files made up an excuse for why there is no God in one episode? Stargate portrays all the mythical gods as superior races -- some good, some bad. (They don't touch the real God thankfully.) I have no problem watching these shows because I know where I stand and because I like fiction.
I admit, I rolled my eyes often when Supernatural contended God is missing. I roll my eyes even more often because Angel (a vampire with a soul who now is a champion out to protect people from demons) finds out there is no god and earth is just one of many hell deminsions, but it IS fiction.
When I was a kid I learned all matter was made up of atoms so there is no real "solid." (At least that is probably fact. lol) I had a hay day thinking of what that would be like if it meant the obvious. If I sit down in a chair, I should have equal opportunity falling right through it, clear through whatever is below it, on through the earth completely, out the other side, and then what? Gravity takes over so I fall back up again? The reality is, it's solid enough to sit on at all times, but my fantasy-oriented mind still plays that game. Just like I play along with X-Files, and put up with Supernatural's BS until I couldn't, and enjoy thinking Thor is a little gray alien like the ones who crashed in Area 51 (or didn't, since I believe that's just a conspiracy too.)
Fiction. One of the first rules in enjoying fiction is to suspend belief. (I have trouble suspending belief that Mr. Spock doesn't have emotions -- another fun ride on my fantasy-oriented mind. lol) As long as I know it is fiction and I'm just suspending belief -- not breaking it -- I have no problems with TV shows that expect me to go along with them toying with reality.
What does, however, make me hate shows is when they portray believers as the stupid ignorant fools. THAT's how they lose my interest. THAT's what I still have against Criminal Minds and NCSI: New Orleans. I still watch them, but only because there's nothing better on and hubby likes them. (Prime time TV is our three hours of together time. It's our joint hobby. lol)
But I keep thinking if I accept a vampire with a soul as suspending my belief, then exactly why should I get bugged out when they expect me to also believe this universe is just another hell-dimension? I'd have to be nuts if I honestly believed there's a vampire with a soul roaming around to begin with. lol
That said, I am a Stargate's fan, did watch X-Files, (debating if I want to watch the new one, given after ten years the first series never answered ANY of the obvious questions, but that's a fangirl debate, not something God's leading me into or away from lol), Buffy and Angel fan, and watched Supernatural until two years after the Apocalypse. (It's still going. How long after the end of the world is it going to keep going?)
Stargate seems to be worse than X-Files ever was. X-Files made up an excuse for why there is no God in one episode? Stargate portrays all the mythical gods as superior races -- some good, some bad. (They don't touch the real God thankfully.) I have no problem watching these shows because I know where I stand and because I like fiction.
I admit, I rolled my eyes often when Supernatural contended God is missing. I roll my eyes even more often because Angel (a vampire with a soul who now is a champion out to protect people from demons) finds out there is no god and earth is just one of many hell deminsions, but it IS fiction.
When I was a kid I learned all matter was made up of atoms so there is no real "solid." (At least that is probably fact. lol) I had a hay day thinking of what that would be like if it meant the obvious. If I sit down in a chair, I should have equal opportunity falling right through it, clear through whatever is below it, on through the earth completely, out the other side, and then what? Gravity takes over so I fall back up again? The reality is, it's solid enough to sit on at all times, but my fantasy-oriented mind still plays that game. Just like I play along with X-Files, and put up with Supernatural's BS until I couldn't, and enjoy thinking Thor is a little gray alien like the ones who crashed in Area 51 (or didn't, since I believe that's just a conspiracy too.)
Fiction. One of the first rules in enjoying fiction is to suspend belief. (I have trouble suspending belief that Mr. Spock doesn't have emotions -- another fun ride on my fantasy-oriented mind. lol) As long as I know it is fiction and I'm just suspending belief -- not breaking it -- I have no problems with TV shows that expect me to go along with them toying with reality.
What does, however, make me hate shows is when they portray believers as the stupid ignorant fools. THAT's how they lose my interest. THAT's what I still have against Criminal Minds and NCSI: New Orleans. I still watch them, but only because there's nothing better on and hubby likes them. (Prime time TV is our three hours of together time. It's our joint hobby. lol)
But I keep thinking if I accept a vampire with a soul as suspending my belief, then exactly why should I get bugged out when they expect me to also believe this universe is just another hell-dimension? I'd have to be nuts if I honestly believed there's a vampire with a soul roaming around to begin with. lol
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Like I said, God is not dealing with us on the basis of our sins. He settled the sin issue between Himself and us 2000 years ago. Learn who you now are in Christ and your behavior will reflect that reality. When we sin we should feel sad, but we should not feel fear or condemnation. There is no condemnation in Christ, so if you feel condemnation it is the adversary attempting to keep you from freely approaching God in your time of need.