Do we know how Yeshua lived his life?

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I am going to give this disclaimer before we open on John 14. There may be things said, in the Word that some will find they simply can't live with, and wish to nullify if they can. However as the words are from the one we Call Our Savior, doing so would show you have no understanding of Him, His teachings, His life, or His faith. After all, if one wishes to remove the truth, or replace it only 1/2 the truth, they show many things about their faith. None of them are good.
We will open John 14 this evening, so I wanted to let every one know before hand it may be for you.
 
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I am going to give this disclaimer before we open on John 14. There may be things said, in the Word that some will find they simply can't live with, and wish to nullify if they can. However as the words are from the one we Call Our Savior, doing so would show you have no understanding of Him, His teachings, His life, or His faith. After all, if one wishes to remove the truth, or replace it only 1/2 the truth, they show many things about their faith. None of them are good.
We will open John 14 this evening, so I wanted to let every one know before hand it may be for you.
Bearing with you< thank you
 
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Jhn 14:1"Don't let your hearts be troubled. Trust in God, and trust also in me.

Now if you follow logic, and understand John chapter 1, then you know that Yeshua and HaShem are 1 not 2. However you should think about the fact that HaShem is Spirit not human. So when we place our turst in HaShem, are we not also placing our trust in Yeshua? For some that is true, however, when one places more trust in Paul, their pastor, or whoever than they do the teachings of Yeshua, that simply can't hold true.

Jhn 14:2There is more than enough room in my Father's home. If this were not so, would I have told you that I am going to prepare a place for you?

I am not going to try to look it up, or say this 100% accurate. However, if you have ever looked at the size of the New Jerusalem as giving in the word, then think that we will not have the physical bodies we now have. You can fit ever person in the world, or that has ever been in the world in there.

Jhn 14:3When everything is ready, I will come and get you, so that you will always be with me where I am.
Jhn 14:4And you know the way to where I am going."

2 things here. First we all understand the concept of being the bride of Yeshua. We all know that He said not even He knows when He will return. So let me fill you on some thing most people may never hear any other place.
In Yeshua's time, it was a well known and followed tradition, that when a man finds his bride to be he had to build a house for them. That house had to meet his dads approval. No one know when the house would do this, and so no one know when the groom would come for his bride. She was ready at all times, day and night. So this does sever as the best way to let your people know what is coming. Give them something they know and understand. It is up to all of us to be ready, and to know and understand His teachings. Just as it up to everyone of us to do our best to live by them. I say our best, because we are human, we are a live, and so we do come up short at times.
Second. We know how to get to where He is, becuase He told us we must do. Now we understand the whole by grace alone. However as we are about to see, Yeshua does tell us there is more than knowing Him. After all even Satin knows him, most likely better than any of use. Yet I don't think you will find his name in the book of life.

Jhn 14:5"No, we don't know, Lord," Thomas said. "We have no idea where you are going, so how can we know the way?"
Jhn 14:6Jesus told him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me.
Jhn 14:7If you had really known me, you would know who my Father is. From now on, you do know him and have seen him!"

As we have said many times in this one thread, Yeshua here tells us that He is HaShem. As we work our way through this study of Yeshua we will see many times that things point to that fact. Not just John chapter 1, as been seen already.

Jhn 14:8Philip said, "Lord, show us the Father, and we will be satisfied."
Jhn 14:9Jesus replied, "Have I been with you all this time, Philip, and yet you still don't know who I am? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father! So why are you asking me to show him to you?

Can it any more clear?

Jhn 14:10Don't you believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me? The words I speak are not my own, but my Father who lives in me does his work through me.
Jhn 14:11Just believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me. Or at least believe because of the work you have seen me do.
Jhn 14:12"I tell you the truth, anyone who believes in me will do the same works I have done, and even greater works, because I am going to be with the Father.
Jhn 14:13You can ask for anything in my name, and I will do it, so that the Son can bring glory to the Father.
Jhn 14:14Yes, ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it!

Here is a passage I have seen misused many times. Just as it has been used to try to discredit one that believes. You see if you can say that we have the power to heal the blind, yet not do so your self. Does that show that Yeshua lied to us here? No, it means our faith is week, and we need to work on that.

Jhn 14:15"If you love me, obey my commandments.
Jhn 14:16And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Advocate, who will never leave you.

Now I understand that some wish to walk in faith and faith alone. For some reason they simply don't like the idea that Yeshua said to keep the commandments. Yet as one can see, doing so is a requirement. Note that He said, keep them, and I will do my part. The thing is, if we don't do our part, He has no reason to speak on our behalf. As we have broken the covenant He gave His life to seal with His blood.
I am going to stop here, even though I really want to keep going. I just have this feeling that their might some question coming.
 
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Now if you follow logic, and understand John chapter 1, then you know that Yeshua and HaShem are 1 not 2. However you should think about the fact that HaShem is Spirit not human. So when we place our turst in HaShem, are we not also placing our trust in Yeshua? For some that is true, however, when one places more trust in Paul, their pastor, or whoever than they do the teachings of Yeshua, that simply can't hold true.
Truth, thank you
 
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Jhn 14:10Don't you believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me? The words I speak are not my own, but my Father who lives in me does his work through me.
Might be time to believe he is risen and we do the same, the Father to do the work through us, not us figuring out how. hearing directly from Hashem, thanks for this post from you brother in Christ
 
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Here is a passage I have seen misused many times. Just as it has been used to try to discredit one that believes. You see if you can say that we have the power to heal the blind, yet not do so your self. Does that show that Yeshua lied to us here? No, it means our faith is week, and we need to work on that.
Actually, I see there, I bet there is "Unbelief in me, somewhere, and if I do or try to do of me, then it is not of God is it, if God does not get all the credit in it? Just saying
Ask to receive and be new without any credit to self or anyone else but God, Has-hem thank you
 
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Now I understand that some wish to walk in faith and faith alone. For some reason they simply don't like the idea that Yeshua said to keep the commandments. Yet as one can see, doing so is a requirement. Note that He said, keep them, and I will do my part. The thing is, if we don't do our part, He has no reason to speak on our behalf. As we have broken the covenant He gave His life to seal with His blood.
I am going to stop here, even though I really want to keep going. I just have this feeling that their might some question coming.
I am like a puppy, where I have a puppy. that puppy makes messes and I simply clean them up and help the puppy to learn new.
For me, I love God because God loves me and Son took away sin for me to learn new in. And that has been going on since age 12 for me. God never giving up on me ever. And I have not ever done perfect ever, being in this unredeemed body that fights the Spirit of God's lead through me and everyone else too
Entering God's Courts with Thanksgiving and praise (Ps 100:4) all sin, by Son taken away as far as the east is from the west (Ps 103:12)
Thanks for your postings
 
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Actually, I see there, I bet there is "Unbelief in me, somewhere, and if I do or try to do of me, then it is not of God is it, if God does not get all the credit in it? Just saying
Ask to receive and be new without any credit to self or anyone else but God, Has-hem thank you
So you did see what I did. Glad your paying attention. I said if you can't heal, and as you pointed out, it isn't us. On ones own, we have no power to do anything, HaShem does the work, we simply open our hearts and minds to Him, so He can work through us.
 
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Jhn 14:17He is the Holy Spirit, who leads into all truth. The world cannot receive him, because it isn't looking for him and doesn't recognize him. But you know him, because he lives with you now and later will be in you.
Jhn 14:18No, I will not abandon you as orphans—I will come to you.

When one teaches on anything from the Word, they must be sure that what they say is 100% in line with the whole of the Word. As even one passage can change how we see what we think we know, if we are open to truth and not closed off to anything that stands in conflict with the church they attend. As I am know for saying, The name on the door has nothing to with salvation.
With that in mind I would like to ask one thing. We have debated this for years, and seem to always come to the same understanding, even when faced with a passage that may seem to conflict with that understanding. Do you see HaShem, Yeshua, and the Spirit of HaShem as 3 different people? I ask this now as the passage above seems to understood as they are by some. Yet some see it as confirmation that they Yeshua and the Spirit of HaShem are one.
How? Some have asked this in the past, so let us give your our insight. Keep in mind, we are human, and can be wrong. When we look at this we find that Yeshua has said, The Spirit lives with those He is speaking to. Then He makes the claim that once He has risen, the spirit will live with in them.

Jhn 14:19Soon the world will no longer see me, but you will see me. Since I live, you also will live.
Jhn 14:20When I am raised to life again, you will know that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you.
Jhn 14:21Those who accept my commandments and obey them are the ones who love me. And because they love me, my Father will love them. And I will love them and reveal myself to each of them."

Again we will use the analogy of a bride and groom. Now keep in mind, that many will say how wrong this is, yet never offer up anything to show I am wrong. At lest not anything Biblical.
As a man looks for a bride, they all have one thing they look for, a women that will stand by them, and work together to build a better life for them, and their kids. For some that means both work, and hope t put back enough for their kids to get a better start in life than they had. Others may think the women should be a stay at home mom. Trust me, both wll find what they seek. However in Yeshua's time, a women was expeccted to follow what her hubby said. That is unless his words were in violation of Torah. Again I remind you, that we all seem to understand the concept of Yeshua as the groom, and we are the bride. Also most understand that Yeshua can't speak against Torah, or salvation would be an idea based on SIN. So when He said we are to excet, and follow His commandments, does He really mean it? I say yes he does.


As we have asked a question in this post, we will stop here to wait for answers. Also there has been some things said that may bring rebuke. So we must give any that wish to do so, time and space to do so.