Do we need to repent more than once to stay saved?

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Should a person continue to ask for forgiveness after salvation.


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If repentance is changing your mind and trying not to sin again, then if someone sins again then that wasn't sincere repentance since that person deliberately sinned again after allegedly repenting.

That kind of repentance will never end since people never stop sinning. Anything that isn't from faith is sin. Guess what? Almost all things aren't faith-based, they're material-based. Therefore almost everything is a sin.

I believe repentance is actually changing your mind to come into agreement with God that we are sinners and that the sacrifice of Christ is all sufficient to save us. Yes we do strive vainly to live righteous lives and avoid sin, but ultimately it's Christ's sacrifice and His righteousness that saves us, not our good works.

Why do you automatically add...deliberately? Even God knew we would not be perfect thus the allowance of sin forgiveness.

Since you feel you are perfect...please list your name so we can see that status...for the first time.(Except Christ)
 
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Why do you automatically add...deliberately? Even God knew we would not be perfect thus the allowance of sin forgiveness.

Since you feel you are perfect...please list your name so we can see that status...for the first time.(Except Christ)
I added deliberately since having full awareness of the sin someone repents of would require deliberate action to repeat the same error they allegedly repented of. That's just simple logic.

Btw, I'm pretty sure you aren't allowed to ask people for their real names here.
 
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WOW...your new age religion robe is showing.

Then why does the Lord's prayer say.......forgive us of our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us?
A daily prayer presented by the Bible.
Why does God forgive us of our sins without limit? Under your thought once would be sufficient...right?

Study scriptures.
The question should have been,If a born again Christian doesn't continually ask for forgiveness of sins will they lose their salvation ?
 

justbyfaith

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thanks for posting actual verses for a change

you are misconstruing the above verses

the righteousness of a Christians is that of Christ. We are righteous only IN Christ and not by any efforts of our own
Right...he is the one who does the work.

However, the righteousness that God gives us is practical.

Tit 3:3, For we ourselves also were sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving divers lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful, and hating one another.
Tit 3:4, But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared,
Tit 3:5, Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
Tit 3:6, Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;
Tit 3:7, That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.



1. the one offering spoken of, is the Lord Jesus Christ Himself. He is the final offering and no more are needed

2. this means we believe in Him for our righteousness...which means the forgiveness of our sins
It is also practically living for God (1 John 3:7, Romans 5:19, Matthew 5:6, Matthew 5:20).

3. perfected very obviously does not mean we have become perfect. that, is ongoing through sanctification, a process throughout our lives. salvation is immediate and sanctification is the process through which we are changed by the Holy Spirit as we follow Christ.
God doesn't say what He means and He doesn't mean what He says.

4. holy, sanctification, means to be set apart. it means we are now set apart to Christ and from the world. this means we are 'positioned' in Christ. that is how God, the Father, sees us.
"set apart" means "made holy" and there is a practicality to that. Otherwise the word "holy" is stripped of all of its meaning.

5. it is correct to say we are 'positionally' sanctified (meaning not of our own doing, but again, in Christ if we belong to Him) but sanctification of our lives is ongoing throughout our earthly life. this, is the work of the Holy Spirit in our lives. This can also be called justification...we are 'justified in Christ'..meaning, again, that Christ's finished work on the cross has secured our justification before God so that He accepts us as holy...set apart through His Son
There is such a thing as entire sanctification in this life (1 Thessalonians 5:q23-24 (kjv), Hebrews 10:14 (kjv), 1 John 3:9 (kjv)); which is a "second benefit" (2 Corinthians 1:15).

6. sanctification in our lives on a daily basis, is the work of the Holy Spirit in our lives, leading us to maturity in Christ
Now, of course, those who reject the kjv's rendering of "perfection" for the watered-down rendering "maturity" or "completeness" are actually heaping to themselves teachers, in the translators of other versions, to tell them what their itching ears want to hear (2 Timothy 4:3).

7. so, we are set apart or sanctified (meaning holy) in Christ and not of ourselves. we are not acceptable to God in any other way. His grace extends this to us only through His Son. we cannot attain it on our own or work to have it. this is not a question of some can anymore than believing that anyone can be saved by following the law(s) of the OT
Of course I do not deny that righteousness is imputed to the sinner who has faith in Christ.

What I am contending for is sanctification. The person who does righteousness is righteous even as Jesus is righteous (1 John 3:7). He is made righteous (Romans 5:19). He is filled with righteousness (Matthew 5:6). His inward righteousness exceeds the outward righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees; otherwise he will not enter the kingdom of heaven (Matthew 5:20).

note: there is no reason for me to respond to your flurry of posts addressed to me as your purpose is not for discussion, but rather indoctrination in what you believe is biblical. quite a few people here have really tried to help you see that you are in error
I don't see that. Why don't you name them. You are one of the only people that I have even contended with on this issue.

And no one with whom I have contended has brought scripture to bear on the issue that has any convincing power.

And those with whom I have been contending have hardened hearts; they are rejecting the holiness of God as He wants to give it to them.

Apparently they have some secret sin in their lives that they don't want to give up.

Otherwise, even as we find in Romans 7:24, they would be discontented with living sinfully and would see the doctrine of entire sanctification as good news indeed.

You would disparage me as if I am the one that needs to be ministered to. But I am attempting to minister to you.

I know that the word of the Lord will not return void (Isaiah 55:10-11); whether it actually bears fruit in your life or whether it merely makes you accountable on your day of judgment so that you have no excuse.

there is also no need for your special brand of self importance. you are the only one impressed with that. it's actually a big turn-off
I once was given an award for humility and proceeded to pin it up on my wall. (I am being sarcastic; while that is a true story).

and again, to humor you

the verse above means just what it says

the one offering is Jesus...he does not have to offer Himself over and over no matter how many people come to believe in Him

that is what it means...it does not mean you can or have become perfected. without Christ, you have no righteousness whatsoever
The one who is sanctified wholly (1 Thessalonians 5:23-24 (kjv), Hebrews 10:14 (kjv), 1 John 3:9 (kjv)) is sanctified in Christ.

And if sanctification is not a practical thing, it has no meaning whatsoever. See also 1 John 3:7, Romans 5:19, and Matthew 5:6.
 

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@SophieT, you inspire me to repeat myself.

Consider what it says in Romans 8:12 (NLT).

Rom 8:12, Therefore, dear brothers and sisters, you have no obligation to do what your sinful nature urges you to do.
 

justbyfaith

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If you are trying to teach me that I am forgiven apart from any practical righteousness being evident in my life, there is no need. I am fully aware of that.

I want practical righteousness because it will make my witness for Christ more effectual (Philemon 1:6 (kjv)).

Because the Lord has shed abroad His love in my heart (Romans 5:5), I desire to see lost sinners saved.

And, the law is a schoolmaster to lead men to Christ (Galatians 3:24).

If I obey and teach the least of the commandments, I will be called great in the kingdom (Matthew 5:17-20).
 

justbyfaith

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note: there is no reason for me to respond to your flurry of posts addressed to me as your purpose is not for discussion, but rather indoctrination in what you believe is biblical. quite a few people here have really tried to help you see that you are in error

there is also no need for your special brand of self importance. you are the only one impressed with that. it's actually a big turn-off
you are misconstruing the above verses
One thing that I learned in Bible school, learning to become a minister; and which is an important lesson; is that sheep bite.
 

justbyfaith

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you are misconstruing the above verses
I am not.

But if you think that they mean something different, then quote them one-by-one and give the sense of what they really mean.

Although, you probably shouldn't do that; because you are female and Paul wrote that he never allowed a woman to teach or usurp authority over a man.
 

justbyfaith

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Bible school also taught him a female can not usurp authority over a man 😆
Yep....for that is what the scriptures teach.

1Ti 2:9, In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
1Ti 2:10, But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.
1Ti 2:11, Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
1Ti 2:12, But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
1Ti 2:13, For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
1Ti 2:14, And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
1Ti 2:15, Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.


1Co 14:34, Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
1Co 14:35, And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
1Co 14:36, What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?
1Co 14:37, If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.
1Co 14:38, But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.
 

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God doesn't say what He means and He doesn't mean what He says.
The conclusion that one would make, if point #3 were actually true, in the post in question, and perfection does not mean that we become perfect.
 

justbyfaith

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@SophieT, I don't think that you have given even one scripture to back up your point of view (while I have given many to back up mine).

And yet, you believe that you have refuted me...:rolleyes:(n)
 

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the op is asking what happens if you don’t confess ? Will God then keep his word about you remaining guilty ?
I do not see the OP as saying that.

This was below the title.

Should a person continue to ask for forgiveness after salvation.

So that is what I answered.
 
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We have a prayer room on the side of the sanctuary and every Sunday we pray In there before service and there Is a brother that Is praying to GOD and asking for forgiveness Every Sunday,If he doesn't do this will he still be saved?
 

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We have a prayer room on the side of the sanctuary and every Sunday we pray In there before service and there Is a brother that Is praying to GOD and asking for forgiveness Every Sunday,If he doesn't do this will he still be saved?
Confession of sin is in regards to koinoneia fellowship; not your position in Christ.

On of the pastors at my church said it very aptly last night.

When his son used to pull his sister's hair during game night for the family, he would have to go to his room until he knew not to do that any more. Fellowship was broken; he could not enjoy game night with the rest of the family.

However, this did not mean that he was no longer a part of the family.
 

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We have a prayer room on the side of the sanctuary and every Sunday we pray In there before service and there Is a brother that Is praying to GOD and asking for forgiveness Every Sunday,If he doesn't do this will he still be saved?
Of course he'll still be saved, if he remains in Christ. Why wouldn't he be?