Do we need to repent more than once to stay saved?

[Pilgrimshope]

If a person does not continue to repent of their sin to GOD after salvation will GOD take their salvation away?

what salvation ? The salvation we are waiting for in Christ ?

“So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many;

and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭9:28‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.”
‭‭Philippians‬ ‭2:12‬ ‭

it’s about believing the gospel and applying Christs word and yes repentance from sin , acknowledging it is sin and we did it is required practice of Christianity the proper way for us is to acknowledge our sins when we are aware of them . If we do that part and accept our own actions we’re wrong repentance follows.

“Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican. The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican. I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.

And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner. I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other:

for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭18:10-14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

if we pretend we haven’t sinned when we have we’re not walking In truth before God

“But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭1:7-10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

forgiveness is offered and provided for but it’s for those who acknowledge thier sins and repent

 

[BillG]

Jesus said he must go back to the Father so that the Holy Spirit would come to convict us of the sin of unbelief.

That sin being unbelief in Jesus.

When we do that and place our faith in him, believed he died, was buried and rose again then we are saved.

Repent means to have a change of mind, to turn around come back to God.

Our sins were forgiven on the cross.

Verses

1 John 1:7-10
7 But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin.
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.

In verse 9 the word confess is not to repent. The Greek words are not the same.
To confess means to acknowledge, agree that we sinned and got it wrong.

So for me it's a relational thing between me and God.
If I sin then I know I have done wrong.
With that comes guilt.
Now if I carry that guilt then I am afraid to come before God for reasons like, he is going to say, "Thats it too many times Im gonna punish you or going to hell"

So we build a barrier based on fear.
Yet we know God casts out fear in us through love, his perfect love.

The fact is there is no barrier.
That barrier was torn in two when Jesus said "It is finished"

When we sin we should immediately come before the throne of God as a result of genuine faith.

We confess, agree we got it wrong, thank him we are forgiven and ask for help to be more like him.

He is our Father.

As a Father I have always said to my kids "If you get it wrong concerning me don't hide it come tell me, I know you have done something and whatever it is I have forgiven you anyway"

 

[tourist]

99 percent of people won't acknowledge this. sin is not us.It is a virus and wants it's own will to be done despite us.

Perhaps a vaccine would be beneficial.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Jesus said he must go back to the Father so that the Holy Spirit would come to convict us of the sin of unbelief.

That sin being unbelief in Jesus.

When we do that and place our faith in him, believed he died, was buried and rose again then we are saved.

Repent means to have a change of mind, to turn around come back to God.

Our sins were forgiven on the cross.

Verses

1 John 1:7-10
7 But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin.
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.

In verse 9 the word confess is not to repent. The Greek words are not the same.
To confess means to acknowledge, agree that we sinned and got it wrong.

So for me it's a relational thing between me and God.
If I sin then I know I have done wrong.
With that comes guilt.
Now if I carry that guilt then I am afraid to come before God for reasons like, he is going to say, "Thats it too many times Im gonna punish you or going to hell"

So we build a barrier based on fear.
Yet we know God casts out fear in us through love, his perfect love.

The fact is there is no barrier.
That barrier was torn in two when Jesus said "It is finished"

When we sin we should immediately come before the throne of God as a result of genuine faith.

We confess, agree we got it wrong, thank him we are forgiven and ask for help to be more like him.

He is our Father.

As a Father I have always said to my kids "If you get it wrong concerning me don't hide it come tell me, I know you have done something and whatever it is I have forgiven you anyway"

couldn’t agree more wonderfully said

“So for me it's a relational thing between me and God.
If I sin then I know I have done wrong.
With that comes guilt.
Now if I carry that guilt then I am afraid to come before God for reasons like, he is going to say, "Thats it too many times Im gonna punish you or going to hell"

So we build a barrier based on fear.
Yet we know God casts out fear in us through love, his perfect love.

The fact is there is no barrier.
That barrier was torn in two when Jesus said "It is finished"

When we sin we should immediately come before the throne of God as a result of genuine faith.

We confess, agree we got it wrong, thank him we are forgiven and ask for help to be more like him.

He is our Father.”

the op is asking what happens if you don’t confess ? Will God then keep his word about you remaining guilty ?

sort of is this all true or just the good part ?

“For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:

But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭6:14-15‬ ‭

 

[Blik]

A person can generally repent of sin as a whole and yet still be bound to some particular addictive, sinful behaviour.

I do not believe that the Lord condemns that person. That person's faith in Jesus is enough.

The fact that he believes the promises concerning sanctification means that the Lord's righteousness is imputed to him (Romans 4:20-22).

Repentance of sin has to do with what we want to do. If the addicted person wants to sin or does not want to is what the Lord is speaking to him about,

Paul addresses this when Paul tells us he finds himself doing what he does not want to do.

 

[justbyfaith]

yes. exactly. nothing is impossible with God. but we are not God and the Bible is clear we cannot attain sinlessness in this life on earth

very clear

if people could attain perfection, then we have no need of Christ and the Bible is clear we cannot come to God without Him

there is nothing in scripture to indicate anyone but Christ was ever sinless. where you and another person get the idea that Enoch and the rest were sinless is not from scripture.

it seems you are also saying that Angels qualify for sinlessness. they are not human. what are you talking about?

And again, we are not claiming that anyone will be made sinless. Perfect, yes (Hebrews 10:14 (kjv). Sinless, no (1 John 1:8).

The Bible is clear that we can attain perfection while on this earth.

Very clear.

I have quoted the verses; but you appear to have willfully ignored them.

No matter. Your blood will be on your own head.

 

[justbyfaith]

you read it

Jesus distinctly states he has his own throne. further, millions are not going to sit in the same throne. that is not what it means

21 I will let everyone who conquers sit beside me on my throne, just as I took my place with my Father on his throne when I had conquered.

it means to reign...not literally pile up on top of each other

smh

You are mistaken.

 

[justbyfaith]

you don't post verses. no one is going to look up every reference you post. post the entire verse with reference if you want people to actually pay attention. if it's not too much bother of course

but scripture does not teach that a person can become perfect.

I have quoted the verses and not only referenced them; more than once.

It does indeed teach that we can become perfect in this life, in the sense of practical righteousness (while not in the sense of sin being eradicated from the flesh).

 

[justbyfaith]

I pray that your partnership in the faith may become effective as you fully acknowledge every good thing that is ours in Christ. Phil 1:6

Now I see what part of your problem is. You have rejected the kjv as a translation.

I would suggest looking up that verse in that version, it says what I am trying to say a little bit better in it.

 

[justbyfaith]

Jesus tells us to rest in Him...meaning the work of salvation is finished. your works are not acceptable; you cannot earn salvation and you cannot add to it and they will ensure salvation either. When Jesus said IT IS FINISHED, that is what He meant....you do not seem to understand that

you may believe it is healthy to strive, but that is an understanding you believe in error. if you are striving, then you believe you have to earn salvation. yet the Bible says all our works are filthy in God's sight

Isn’t Striving Spiritual?
The problem with striving is that it often looks “spiritual” from the outside. Last month I reflected on the story of Mary and Martha from Luke 10 with a group of students, and nearly every student, regardless of spiritual background, agreed that they are striving. Many of the non-Christian students had that moment of wondering, What am I even striving for?! while the Christian students sat in the realization that they really do believe they have to earn God’s love.

The truth is that all too often we get busy like Martha doing things for Jesus rather than being with him. We can find ourselves going to Bible studies, church events, our own small groups, community outreaches, and on-campus ministry gatherings and then coming home at night tired, weary, bitter, and not very “spiritual” at all.

We have to realize we’re in a striving mindset—maybe as a result of pride, busyness, or forgetting to be with Jesus—before we can stop striving and start abiding.

No one is saying that salvation is earned. But I am saying that the work of sanctification is something that the Lord wants to do in us in order that we may become more effective witnesses for Christ.

Luk 13:24, Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.

 

[justbyfaith]

correction

EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO IS IN CHRIST JESUS IS JUSTIFIED

every single one; not just some

as for your references, I am just not going to even bother. if you can't copy/paste a verse or portion of scripture, I am not going to do the work for you

It's alright, do as you will. I am concealing that knowledge from you (Proverbs 12:23), while revealing it to others (Proverbs 15:7). That is just my style. The lazy don't get to partake of the nuggets.

Who is in Christ Jesus? it is those who walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit (Romans 8:1).

 

[justbyfaith]

Repentance of sin has to do with what we want to do. If the addicted person wants to sin or does not want to is what the Lord is speaking to him about,

Paul addresses this when Paul tells us he finds himself doing what he does not want to do.

An addicted person may have a genuine desire not to sin in his spirit and yet be unable to shake the desire in his flesh to sin in the manner of his addiction.

See Galatians 5:17.

 

[SophieT]

And again, we are not claiming that anyone will be made sinless. Perfect, yes (Hebrews 10:14 (kjv). Sinless, no (1 John 1:8).

The Bible is clear that we can attain perfection while on this earth.

Very clear.

I have quoted the verses; but you appear to have willfully ignored them.

No matter. Your blood will be on your own head.

well see now, if you actually believed salvation was through the blood of Christ, you would not say the above

it's disgraceful that you come to a Christian forum and then try to teach people here that sinless perfection is possible

it is apparent you believe in a works salvation plan that is not of God and also apparent that you cast empty, yet devilish, accusations at people

keep it up and folks are going to start reporting you. what you teach is not accepted Christian doctrine

 

[Blik]

An addicted person may have a genuine desire not to sin in his spirit and yet be unable to shake the desire in his flesh to sin in the manner of his addiction.

See Galatians 5:17.

Then that person has truly repented. The word repent's definition does not include a definition of sin.

 

[Blik]

well see now, if you actually believed salvation was through the blood of Christ, you would not say the above

it's disgraceful that you come to a Christian forum and then try to teach people here that sinless perfection is possible

it is apparent you believe in a works salvation plan that is not of God and also apparent that you cast empty, yet devilish, accusations at people

keep it up and folks are going to start reporting you. what you teach is not accepted Christian doctrine

What is disgraceful is the way seeking for perfection is spoken of here on this site.

If we were discussing learning to play a sport, there wouldn't be this sort of talk about not trying for perfection, yet here we are in training for our eternal life, of eternal importance, and there is all this to do about being imperfect.

 

[SophieT]

And again, we are not claiming that anyone will be made sinless. Perfect, yes (Hebrews 10:14 (kjv). Sinless, no (1 John 1:8).

The Bible is clear that we can attain perfection while on this earth.

Very clear.

I have quoted the verses; but you appear to have willfully ignored them.

No matter. Your blood will be on your own head.

this is nonsense. I guess you do not understand salvation

who is the 'we'? obviously you belong to a group that is independent and teaches that a person can be sinless and attain what you call perfection through sanctification. you have to misapply much of the NT in order to believe that

again, you are just silly telling people they willfully ignore you. no one has ignored your beliefs....people are refuting them

 

[justbyfaith]

well see now, if you actually believed salvation was through the blood of Christ, you would not say the above

it's disgraceful that you come to a Christian forum and then try to teach people here that sinless perfection is possible

it is apparent you believe in a works salvation plan that is not of God and also apparent that you cast empty, yet devilish, accusations at people

keep it up and folks are going to start reporting you. what you teach is not accepted Christian doctrine

Salvation is indeed through the blood of Christ.

The blood does not only justify (as per Romans 5:9). It also sanctifies (Hebrews 13:12, Hebrews 10:29) and cleanses us from all sin (1 John 1:7).

I do not believe in a works salvation. I believe that salvation comes entirely through faith.

Sanctification also.

If anyone wants to believe that they are justified; but they are resisting the work that the Lord wants to do in them, in sanctification,; then I would question as to whether they are truly justified.

Here...

I will quote the scriptures and not just reference them.

Mat 7:23, And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Mat 25:41, Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

Mat 13:41, The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
Mat 13:42, And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

 

[SophieT]

What is disgraceful is the way seeking for perfection is spoken of here on this site.

If we were discussing learning to play a sport, there wouldn't be this sort of talk about not trying for perfection, yet here we are in training for our eternal life, of eternal importance, and there is all this to do about being imperfect.

I agree

we know that a person cannot be perfect as is Jesus, so for someone to keep posting that we can be, is not biblical

we are being sanctified, as you say, through our whole life

 

[justbyfaith]

this is nonsense. I guess you do not understand salvation

who is the 'we'? obviously you belong to a group that is independent and teaches that a person can be sinless and attain what you call perfection through sanctification. you have to misapply much of the NT in order to believe that

again, you are just silly telling people they willfully ignore you. no one has ignored your beliefs....people are refuting them

You are misrepresenting me. I do not teach that anyone can be made sinless.

The scriptures that I have posted have never been refuted.

I will post them again below. Once I have done so, have at it.

 

[justbyfaith]

1Th 5:23, And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
1Th 5:24, Faithful is he that calleth you, who also will do it.

Heb 10:14, For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.

1Jo 3:9, Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
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1Jo 3:6, Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

1Jo 2:17, And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
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1Jo 3:7, Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.

1Jo 3:3, And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.
even as he is pure.

1Jo 2:6, He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

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Jde 1:24, Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,

2Pe 1:10, Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:

1Jo 2:10, He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him.