Do you believe that God accepts homosexuality or not?

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Do you believe that God accepts homosexuality or not?

  • Yes

    Votes: 13 7.5%
  • No

    Votes: 157 90.2%
  • I don't know

    Votes: 4 2.3%

  • Total voters
    174
Jul 26, 2013
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Actually you have absolutely no clue what I am trying to do. All I was trying to do is show you how your logic is flawed. Which most people can see for themselves without being pointed out.

As for starving children I don't know why you feel the need to bring that up in about every thread. I have asked you how many hungry mouths you have fed while sitting online, and you say nothing. So, all I see is you sitting behind a screen whining about something you don't seem to have any desire to do anything about.

Also, the world has enough resources to feed every mouth on this planet. No one has to go hungry, but governments tend to like to control things. You blame money, and money is not the direct issue. It is government. Yes, government and money do go together, but policies and corrupt leaders are the problem. So if you want to make a change and actually help people then get off your butt and do something instead of making rants. Go plant food. Go hunting and give the meat to the poor. Stop paying for your internet and donate it to charity.
Why can't we give it away for free that all may be fed?

And I know what you are trying to do. You are condemning the homosexual, being blind to your own condemnation.

Again we can end all sin and evil but giving people what they need to live. We have enough, but we're still talking about gay people.

Homosexuals have been here for thousands of years and we haven't changed a thing.

I can barely feed myself off of money, but doing away with it will feed the world!
 

john832

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do you think it's a worse sin for two same sexed individuals to willing fornicate with each other or to gamble that our great futures will be gained on the misery of millions or billions of others? which is the greater sin homosexuality or the stock market, walmart, wmds, etc.. egtc..?
So point the finger at something else and that makes the first sin OK?

God plainly says that homosexuality is an abomination. Smoke and mirrors do not change that.
 

Elizabeth619

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Why can't we give it away for free that all may be fed?

And I know what you are trying to do. You are condemning the homosexual, being blind to your own condemnation.

Again we can end all sin and evil but giving people what they need to live. We have enough, but we're still talking about gay people.

Homosexuals have been here for thousands of years and we haven't changed a thing.

I can barely feed myself off of money, but doing away with it will feed the world!
Show me where in this thread where I've condemned homosexuality.
 

Elizabeth619

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If you're not, then why are you on my heels for not condemning them?
I'm not. I was "on your heels" about your theory on righteous judgement. When I even mentioned rebuking I said nothign about homosexuality. You assumed that was what I was talking about, but was not.

Anyway, the bible states homosexuals will not enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Stating what the bible says isn't a person judging another yet people want to think it is so they scream STOP JUDGING! When it isn't man that is the judge.

The bible also says that justifying the wicked is an abomination. Again, that isn't me saying it. It is God.


BTW, if we all did away with currency do you not think that greed would take over more than it is now? Your concept is a nice fantasy, but that is all it is. Fantasy.
 

john832

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I'm not. I was "on your heels" about your theory on righteous judgement. When I even mentioned rebuking I said nothign about homosexuality. You assumed that was what I was talking about, but was not.

Anyway, the bible states homosexuals will not enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Stating what the bible says isn't a person judging another yet people want to think it is so they scream STOP JUDGING! When it isn't man that is the judge.

The bible also says that justifying the wicked is an abomination. Again, that isn't me saying it. It is God.


BTW, if we all did away with currency do you not think that greed would take over more than it is now? Your concept is a nice fantasy, but that is all it is. Fantasy.
Hmmm, another one who is politically incorrect. Makes at least two of us.

Communism was tried in the Soviet Union, how'd that work out?

2Th 3:10 For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.
2Th 3:11 For we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly, working not at all, but are busybodies.
2Th 3:12 Now them that are such we command and exhort by our Lord Jesus Christ, that with quietness they work, and eat their own bread.

Now don't assume God has no plan to care for those who NEED help...

Deu 24:19 When thou cuttest down thine harvest in thy field, and hast forgot a sheaf in the field, thou shalt not go again to fetch it: it shall be for the stranger, for the fatherless, and for the widow: that the LORD thy God may bless thee in all the work of thine hands.
Deu 24:20 When thou beatest thine olive tree, thou shalt not go over the boughs again: it shall be for the stranger, for the fatherless, and for the widow.
Deu 24:21 When thou gatherest the grapes of thy vineyard, thou shalt not glean it afterward: it shall be for the stranger, for the fatherless, and for the widow.

Ah but our society knows better than the Creator of the universe. Put 'em welfare and make the rules such that it destroys work initiative and families.

What about those who cannot glean?

Lev 25:35 And if thy brother be waxen poor, and fallen in decay with thee; then thou shalt relieve him: yea, though he be a stranger, or a sojourner; that he may live with thee.
Lev 25:36 Take thou no usury of him, or increase: but fear thy God; that thy brother may live with thee.
Lev 25:37 Thou shalt not give him thy money upon usury, nor lend him thy victuals for increase.

Deu 14:28 At the end of three years thou shalt bring forth all the tithe of thine increase the same year, and shalt lay it up within thy gates:
Deu 14:29 And the Levite, (because he hath no part nor inheritance with thee,) and the stranger, and the fatherless, and the widow, which are within thy gates, shall come, and shall eat and be satisfied; that the LORD thy God may bless thee in all the work of thine hand which thou doest.

The third tithe system of paying an extra tithe in 2 years out of seven.
 
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A practicing sexually immoral person is not in the Assembly of God’s elect therefore those within the Assembly should not judge such a person. God judges those outside the Assembly. 1 Corinthians 5:11-13
 
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I'm not. I was "on your heels" about your theory on righteous judgement. When I even mentioned rebuking I said nothign about homosexuality. You assumed that was what I was talking about, but was not.

Anyway, the bible states homosexuals will not enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Stating what the bible says isn't a person judging another yet people want to think it is so they scream STOP JUDGING! When it isn't man that is the judge.

The bible also says that justifying the wicked is an abomination. Again, that isn't me saying it. It is God.


BTW, if we all did away with currency do you not think that greed would take over more than it is now? Your concept is a nice fantasy, but that is all it is. Fantasy.
The bible also states that you will not enter as well.

2 Corinthians 5:14-17

14* For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead

15* And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again

16* Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.

17* Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

Calling a man a homosexual and telling that man he has no part in the kingdom because of it is "knowing him according to the flesh".

For this reason we still die today!

And who cares about greed when we have enough for it?

Have you not read that israel in the wilderness took every man ACCORDING TO HIS NEEDS, SOME MORE AND LESS?

What that means is that some people might want a dozen cars and another can care less about having one car. Some might want a tv as big as their wall, but another might not want one at all.
 

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A practicing sexually immoral person is not in the Assembly of God’s elect therefore those within the Assembly should not judge such a person. God judges those outside the Assembly. 1 Corinthians 5:11-13
Who is a practicing sexual immoral person in this thread that has judged?
 

Elizabeth619

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The bible also states that you will not enter as well.

2 Corinthians 5:14-17

14* For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead

15* And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again

16* Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.

17* Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

Calling a man a homosexual and telling that man he has no part in the kingdom because of it is "knowing him according to the flesh".

For this reason we still die today!

And who cares about greed when we have enough for it?

Have you not read that israel in the wilderness took every man ACCORDING TO HIS NEEDS, SOME MORE AND LESS?

What that means is that some people might want a dozen cars and another can care less about having one car. Some might want a tv as big as their wall, but another might not want one at all.
Like I said... fantasy.
Start giving your belongings away. See how long you make it.
 

john832

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Hmmm, all this talk of judging. Maybe we ought to see if we should judge and under what circumstances...

1Co 6:1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?
1Co 6:2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
1Co 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?

1Co 6:5 I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?

Joh 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

As far as judging (discerning) right and wrong, we should be able to do that.
 
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Who is a practicing sexual immoral person in this thread that has judged?
I’m just making a general statement backed with scripture. It’s not directed to anyone in particular. Yes… there are those who are often quick to accuse based on hunches and assumptions without any textual proof.
 

Elizabeth619

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I’m just making a general statement backed with scripture. It’s not directed to anyone in particular. Yes… there are those who are often quick to accuse based on hunches and assumptions without any textual proof.
You're right tho. That's why it says to get the plank out if your own eye.

Yet it doesn't say not to use discernment. I never would have come back to Christ had someone not used judgement and told me I needed Him. That I obviously wasn't doing too well without him.
 
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Like I said... fantasy.
Start giving your belongings away. See how long you make it.
Regardless of whether you understand me or believe me, this system will fall soon. Money is a piece of paper.

But you still have to eat!
 
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A practicing sexually immoral person is not in the Assembly of God’s elect therefore those within the Assembly should not judge such a person. God judges those outside the Assembly. 1 Corinthians 5:11-13

John 7:24 (KJV)
[SUP]24 [/SUP]Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

Ezekiel 33:4-6 (KJV)
[SUP]4 [/SUP]Then whosoever heareth the sound of the trumpet, and taketh not warning; if the sword come, and take him away, his blood shall be upon his own head.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]He heard the sound of the trumpet, and took not warning; his blood shall be upon him. But he that taketh warning shall deliver his soul.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand.



If you do not sound the warning, you are as guilty as those who disregard the warning when the trumpet is sounded. If a person cannot understand this, then they are equated with this next verse. Nevertheless, if one has nothing to do with the church, the verse you quoted is what happens to those who refuse the calling unto righteousness. If they are in the church then the scripture I posted takes effect, or at least it should.

Romans 8:6-7 (KJV)
[SUP]6 [/SUP]For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
 
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Elizabeth619

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Regardless of whether you understand me or believe me, this system will fall soon. Money is a piece of paper.

But you still have to eat!
Apparently you don't know what money is at all.