Do you believe you can die in unrepentant sin (Such as lying etc) and still be saved?
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my nasty disposition? nah...you're just sour grapes who gets miffed when they get called out on their mission in life to straighten everyone out
you are trying to prove people's hearts...and THAT is why I am tapping you on the shoulder
one thing I don't have, fellah, is a nasty disposition....I am actually quite friendly, often funny and unlike some, I actually do care about people and I understand that while I can and should and do point out erroneous doctrine, I do not have the place to dig out their hearts and find them blacker them my own
we both know what I'm talking about...go and try your little interference lines in church and see how long it takes for the pastor to ask someone to speak to you or he may do it himself
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I understand what you're saying. Believe me, I've read I John and the rest of the Bible many times, so I know what God requires of us. It's mindboggling that some get so upset when others suggest that we're actually supposed to walk with Christ. If as previously lost sheep who had all gone astray we haven't returned to the guidance and leading of the good shepherd, then how in the world are we saved and what are we supposedly saved from if not our sins or our rebellion against God? Apparently, a lot of people refuse to consider what the Bible teaches in relation to actual belief. I don't intend to argue with them. I'll probably bow out of this discussion shortly as such conversations become more and more futile the longer they continue.
Thanks for clarifying what you actually believe. For whatever it's worth, you don't sound lost to me, even though another poster pronounced you as being the same earlier today. Of course, I'm not the final judge, but you sound like you want to serve Christ to me. May God bless you as you continue to seek Him and His ways.
Thanks for clarifying what you actually believe. For whatever it's worth, you don't sound lost to me, even though another poster pronounced you as being the same earlier today. Of course, I'm not the final judge, but you sound like you want to serve Christ to me. May God bless you as you continue to seek Him and His ways.
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Amen, just as they taught saying....
2 John 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God.
Just so we know,
He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. (John 14:23, WE )
Just as Jesus had said no man comes to the Father but by me (John 14:6), So one must abide in the doctrine (which is teaching of Christ) as His doctrine was not His but God the Fathers (John 7:16)
So again...
2 John 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God.
He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
Then it follows saying this
2 John 1:10 If there come any unto you, and bring not (((((( this doctrine, ))))))
receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
2 John 1:12 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.
Notice how 2 John 1:10 follows after what he just stated about not having God?
2 John 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God.
Just so we know,
He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. (John 14:23, WE )
Just as Jesus had said no man comes to the Father but by me (John 14:6), So one must abide in the doctrine (which is teaching of Christ) as His doctrine was not His but God the Fathers (John 7:16)
So again...
2 John 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God.
He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
Then it follows saying this
2 John 1:10 If there come any unto you, and bring not (((((( this doctrine, ))))))
receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
2 John 1:12 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.
Notice how 2 John 1:10 follows after what he just stated about not having God?
so do you think these two were beyond the reach of grace as well?
because you think the fact that Ananias & Sapphira died means they did not receive mercy?
their actions were plain, but i'll let it be to God to judge their souls. how could i dare to do otherwise? they were also counted among the believers, and doesn't God have the right to deal with His own without me whispering in His ear what He should do?
because you think the fact that Ananias & Sapphira died means they did not receive mercy?
their actions were plain, but i'll let it be to God to judge their souls. how could i dare to do otherwise? they were also counted among the believers, and doesn't God have the right to deal with His own without me whispering in His ear what He should do?
This is a prime example of how you gained the name Mr. Twisty......read my post again and point out where I said or implied what you are bloviating.......HEY PURGED POLICE YOUR NEW BUDDY for implying something I did not say!
Originally Posted by dcontroversal
Yeah no doubt...applied unto those who have rejected Christ and found under the condemnation of the law.....one of these days you will find out albeit too late......! ALL have SINNED and come short of the glory of God and if God should mark iniquity NONE WOULD STAND....I will take the place where God does not mark iniquity because EVERY SIN I HAVE committed or will commit have been NAILED to the CROSS when he became SIN for me so the RIGHTEOUSNESS of GOD can be applied unto me by FAITH......
This is a prime example of how you gained the name Mr. Twisty......read my post again and point out where I said or implied what you are bloviating.......HEY PURGED POLICE YOUR NEW BUDDY for implying something I did not say!
Originally Posted by dcontroversal
Yeah no doubt...applied unto those who have rejected Christ and found under the condemnation of the law.....one of these days you will find out albeit too late......! ALL have SINNED and come short of the glory of God and if God should mark iniquity NONE WOULD STAND....I will take the place where God does not mark iniquity because EVERY SIN I HAVE committed or will commit have been NAILED to the CROSS when he became SIN for me so the RIGHTEOUSNESS of GOD can be applied unto me by FAITH......
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has God made exceptions for Christian who lie but do not repent of their lying?
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No that is only the watered down version of blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.
Apostle Paul clarifies in different epistles as well does Acts 5 show how this blasphemy is done. Unbelief is forgivable when the person comes to believe, as the man asked of Jesus in Mark 9:24 for he still could not do things that Jesus said because of his unbelief in that area.
If it was attributed to unbelief then none of us would have salvation because we all were in unbelief at one time in our lives, and even some to this day by what I have seen them say still have unbelief in some areas that needs to be prayed to God for help with. Such as those who deny the gifts and fruits of the Spirit that a true born again believer will have showing out in actions/speech/and works in front of others.
Apostle Paul and Acts shows lying to, denying His guidance, His gifts, and His fruits to not walk in them is all part of blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. For Paul says and shows that a person can not have eternal life when they are not walking by the Spirit......